RM-70? Intel's equivalent?

I was wondering what is the equivalent of an turion 64 x2 RM-70 on the Intels side? just to make sure Im not going after a bad deal.

Also, which would be the T7500 equivalent on the AMD side.

I understand pretty much intels wording such as FSB, Cache, etc, but on the AMD side I find it really awkward like HT 1800 Mhz, that it has 2x512mb kb cache (on intel its nothing 2x1mb cache or so).
Also, what is a 10x multiplier? is that good?

THanks!

 

Probably something in the range of 1700-1800MHz (Intel, C2D) would equal the RM-70.

Something in the range of 2500MHz should be close to the T7500.

HT is essentially AMD's "FSB", it's their way of connecting with the memory.

Cache is used to store recently used data in the hopes that it will be accessed soon from the cache, rather than have to access memory (insanely slow compared to the CPU). AMD CPUs need less cache because they are smarter with it (more efficient) by using the IMC (integrated memory controller).

The multiplier and the FSB/HT determine the speed the CPU will run at. E.g. I have a T8300, it has a 12x multiplier with a FSB speed of 200MT/s, therefore, my CPU speed is 12*200 = 2400MHz. I'm not sure though how the AMD works, but based off the info you gave, 2000MHz/10x multiplier = 200 HT speed (I believe that's what they use)

 

Isn't C2D a lot better than whatever ATI has?

 

U mean AMD right? and no a C2D isn't alot faster than whatever AMD has.... a C2D is about 30% faster than an X2 and 10% faster than a turion ultra, at the same clock speed. This of course is just a generalisation. Turions however tend to be cheaper, so in the same price range, you could get a higher clocked turion than a C2D, meaning the performance differences would be unnoticable. heat/power differences are another story however, especially when comparing the new 'P' series C2Ds.

 

I saw this review comparing zm82 and p8400.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.clubic.com/article-168842-1-test-comparaison-intel-centrino-2-amd-puma.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.clubic.com/article-168842-1-test-comparaison-intel-centrino-2-amd-puma.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-USfficial%26hs%3DLip

Difference looks to be more than 10%. Plus RM series have only half the cache compared to zm series.

AMD has much better integrated gfx. Other than that AMD turion processors dont come close to penryn.

 

T7500 has only 1066mhz FSB vs 1800mhz of AMD's HT
T7500 has 4mb cache vs 2x512kb cache on the RM-70

So, all in all, will the RM-70 do a decent job on doing midranged games?
I mean, Im going to buy a ASUS with a HD3650 so combined with a RM-70 would it do a descent job? or will it bottleneck do to the low cache?

 

I dont see FSB as an issue in notebooks. There is more than enough bandwidth even with 667mhz fsb. That is why nehalem with IMC and QPI is not showing great improvement in gaming benchmarks.

T7500 would be way faster than RM70. if u have to buy AMD I would recommend ZM series like ZM86.

 

Im on a very narrow budget so I cannot go to something as good as a zm86, therefore Im asking if the RM70 would be ok in mid-high gaming as the laptop on the budget I have (asus M51) would perform well enough.


Still, would the Cache be a problem on 2x512mb for what I've said?

 

Cache would not be a problem. AMD's have an integrated memory controller on the CPU. This equals faster FSB ratings, and the less of a need for more cache. Intel's don't have an on-die memory controller, so therefore need more cache to make up for this difference.

Also, a T7500 equivalent would be something of a ZM86 or ZM88. Both these processors are out of your budget.

The RM-70 should be good for basic tasks such as web browsing, word, and some moderate gaming. Gaming is more dependent on the graphics card, than on the CPU. The HD3650 is a mid-range video card, so the RM-70 should be a good fit for your notebook. Just don't expect amazing results.

Also, what is your budget for your notebook?

 

T7500 has 800M/T's FSB.

As said before CPU is not usually the bottleneck. And that AMD matched with that ATI is well balanced so I think you will be fine I would guess.

The cache on the AMD is fine for the reasons stated before by others. Your RAM bandwidth will likely be greater with the AMD vs the Intel mentioned. Not that that matters alot because the GPU will be the bottleneck.

 

Are you referring to the M51Ta-X1, regular price of $949.99, on sale for $799.99 at Newegg?

Have you also seen the M51Ta-X2, regularly $999.99, on sale for $899.99? I realize it costs another $100 but that $100 would be VERY well spent for the upgrades that it includes! If you can possibly stretch your budget to get this one, it will be a better performing system overall!

FYI- Newegg does NOT collect Sales Tax unless you live in California, New Jersey or Tennessee. If you were expecting to pay sales tax, that is at least $60 to $70 toward the extra $100.

The M51Ta-X1 is configured as follows-
2.0GHz AMD Turion X2 RM-70
Windows Vista Home Premium
3GB DDR2-800 RAM
15.4" WXGA 1280x800 display
250GB HD
512mb ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3650
DVD SuperMulti
Wireless-n
Webcam
and, of course, ASUS's very cool standard 2-year warranty + 1-year accidental damage coverage!
LINK- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220348

For the $100 upgrade to the M51Ta-X2-

The RM-70 is replaced by the 2.2GHz AMD Turion X2 Ultra ZM-82
WXGA display is replaced with 15.4" WXGA+ 1440x900 (higher resolution)
Upgrade from 3GB to 4GB of DDR2-800 RAM
Adds Bluetooth capability
LINK- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220349

 

my budget is 800 as I was going to buy the Gateway M-153x with T7500 and HD2600 at 799.99(now not sold anywhere) so Im planning on spending that same amount on a regular specs laptop.

100 dolars more would be too much for me, Im just on vacations on USA, so I dont have much money. Plus newegg charges a 7+% tax on NewJersey and shipping, the M51Ta-X2 at 899.99 would end up to almost 1000 with taxes and shipping :/

So I guess Ill go with the M51 at 799.99 :O

Still I have over a month to think about it, so I wont hurry, Im just asking questions to decide for when the moment comes to unwrap my dad's credit card and buy the laptop