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    RMClock, HWMonitor, etc Temperature readings stuck.

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by kisetsu17, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    ^^Topic.

    Thing is every reboot is the only time when the readings change, and then stays the same when I check it. The weird part is that it is only the CPU temp readings that don't move, while the other readings still move..

    What could possibly be the cause?

    I've read that the temp sensors could be "stuck", hardware-wise. Could they be "un-stuck" if that is the case? Thanks, please help me... (Wishing to undervolt newly acquired lappie) thanks again!
     
  2. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    bump. please help meeee.. :(
     
  3. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Don't need to bump so often. Maybe link to screenshots since I don't think you can attach files yet.
     
  4. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Oops, sorry, I think I doubled the bump since it sort of failed the time I posted it. Here are screenshots taken showing Orthos and HWMonitor, one image where orthos is idle and another running.
    (sorry to have used multiply, -_-')

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    ^^When orthos is idle, but temps are that way since last boot.

    [​IMG]
    ^^CPU stress test using orthos smal FFT test; CPU temp stays the same no matter how long I keep it running; not a program error in HWMonitor's side since the GPU temps move when I fire up Left 4 Dead.

    By the way, processor is Intel C2D T5800 2.00Ghz, if that is any worth.

    Please help. -_-"
     
  5. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Have you tried using Coretemp or other temp monitors?
     
  6. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    I already tried Coretemp, same things pop up. although when I tried Nvidia system tools, the temps shown were higher than the ones shown in both coretemp and hwmonitor, i.e. when hwmonitor showed 60C during one startup nvidia showed 73C (!!).
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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  8. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Ahem..

    Thanks sir Gophn, I did try NHC on my old laptop but didn't like the way it overrides my power plan, and now that I used it here in the new laptop, it still doesn't show the real temps, still stuck at 46-47C (Core 0 and 1), and all that's moving is the one for the ACPI layer. Could the sensor be damaged or something? it still wouldn't move while I use the CPU stress programs..
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    what system are you using?
     
  10. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    CPU-Z used to do this to me.

    I'd have to open CPU-Z first, then HWMonitor and other programs, or my temps would freeze. Check your task manager for any stray instances of CPU-Z, kill them, then re-start all your temperature monitoring programs.
     
  11. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    I'm on WinVista Home Premium, C2D T5800, 4G ram, I have CPU-z but its not running anymore, actually nothing else is running right now except for RMClock (currently undervolted), which doesn't show correct temp as well..

    P.S. i have no stray instances of CPU-Z whatsoever..
     
  12. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    Check your process list, CPU-Z is known to hang around even after closing.
     
  13. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    there are other programs similar to RMclock, but up to date:
    - CrystalCPUID
    - CPU Genie

    And you can try the following hardware monitor software:
    - Everest
    - SpeedFan (the temps are all over the place, but usually one of them is the CPU temp that is correctly read) ... this is a program for desktops mainly
     
  14. Tippey764

    Tippey764 Notebook Deity

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    Is it an HP dv4 dv5 dv6 or a dv7 or maybe an HDX16 or HDX18. Regardless of which one its a bios problem mine does this exact same thing. It happend after i updated to a newer bios. I tryed to downgrade my bios and it didnt help either.
     
  15. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Tried SpeedFan already, didn't work squat. Also, the possibility of there having rogue instances of CPU-Z is also squat, as I've already restarted lots of times and no CPU-Z in the process tabs.

    Laptop is an Acer Extensa 4630G (if you were passing through the Acer forums here, I was the one asking for this exact kinda rig :D) and it's kinda crisp, I'm planning to do a review of its GPU which is an nVidia GeForce 9300M GS--I want to use heat monitoring hardware to review it, and I want to include the CPU in the review to see how the card transfers its load onto one's processor, but if I find no fixes whatsoever then I'll just resolve to only the card itself. :D

    By the way, I also tried reflashing the bios (I'm on the newest one since the computer is fairly new), but I did that _after_ the core temps went kaput, so I don't think it's a BIOS issue.

    Is it possible that even if I factory-reset the computer (with factory reset disks) it still wouldn't work? T-T
     
  16. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    If you cant read temperatures from any software drive down to a local vehicle repair center like a gas station which does automotive repairs. Ask them if they have a infrared temperature reader. If they have one, you could just bring your laptop and power it up to read the temperatures via an external device. They will not let you borrow it because they usually cost around $1500. They are highly accurate and can read cpu temperatures through the plastic shell of your laptop. All you need to do is know where your processor is.

    all truck repair places will have one of these, you could probably try autozone too, maybe they have one on display which you can test with

    K-TRON
     
  17. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    So there aren't any more chances that the temps would be unstuck? :confused:
     
  18. randallrivy11

    randallrivy11 Notebook Consultant

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    how did they get stuck to begin with?
     
  19. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Well, actually, your guess is as good as mine. Haha.

    Frankly, I don't know. All I remember was giddily running HWMonitor for the last time, seeing idle temps of 50C and stressed temps of about 68C, of course fluctuating as it should, and then I left it sitting there and watched something I think. And then when I decided it was time to undervolt, I was suddenly surprised to see the temp for the CPU cores not moving anymore! I remember it was first stuck with 61C for Core 1 and 63C for Core 2.
     
  20. stevezachtech

    stevezachtech Notebook Evangelist

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    The Bios can influence core temp readings, maybe it needs to be updated in order to suite the current board you already have.