RTX notebook possibly debunked

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1160,news-59651.html

 

Interesting... maybe RTX will be present only on the very high end mobile graphics cards... What I don't get is the Max-Q concept... I mean wasn't Nvidia's intention to eliminate the "M" series because they wanted the laptop's video cards to have almost the same performance as desktop graphic cards? The Max-Q series seems the same as the old "M" series to me...

 

To understand it simple, yes, it's somewhat similar to the M series.
But the M series went beyond: Some GPUs, not only downclocked, but completely different GPU from is advertised compared to the desktop version.

 

New fancy brand name (Max-Q) instead for old working “M” was a move to increase their prices. It’s called... SCAM!

 

Max-Q GPUs just an undervolted and underclock, somewhat optimized normal GPUs.
Not entirely a SCAM, but more like a thing we can do on normal Turdbooks with MSI Afterburner.

 

I doubt it, since we didn't have the 1080 TI in notebooks.

We most likely won't see any RTX cards in notebooks, only GTX 11xx.

 

no, its a scam. they can simply sell a lesser tier graphics instead of 1060 MAX Q as an example they could sell it as 1050. not only 1060 MQ is underclocked and undervolted it is also firmware power restricted.

 

From Chiphell as usual.

 

185W TDP card + I7 powered by 230W PSU. Seems legit.

 

And who say mobile RTX2070 is a 185W TDP card?

 

Not at all unbelievable. I’m running my 130-175w TDP modded 1070 and 8700K at 4.3ghz with a 230w PSU.

The RTX “mobile” won’t be full desktop power and the 8750h certainly pullls far less than an LGA 8700K.

 

That's really pushing it at full load, but then again these PSUs can supply a bit more than their rated wattage.

 

230w psu should be good for +250w from the wall. But it depends on. MSI cut the power long before you reach that goal. @Falkentyne

 

The moment you said "130 - 175w" TDP makes me question your reliability. Sorry but there is a massive difference between 130 and 175W tdp.

 

Funny thing, the moment I read this post made me question whether you had ever used the Pascal TDP tool.

 

Thank you. He clearly has no idea I have a TDP slider making the TDP modifiable like a desktop card using MSI Afterburner.

 

Why would Anyone lower their performance?

Exacly, because of problems, basicially confirming my suspicion.
Next time try to use your head a little.

 

LOL

 

CPU (up to 70+W in demanding games)+ GPU (175W) = 245+W

While ignoring power draw from motherboard, ram, USB devices, monitor, keyboard, bluetooth etc.

230W PSU enough boys. Next ull tell me 350W is enogh for 1080 SLI on desktop.

 

Maybe the person did that for thermal rather than power reasons? The Tornado F5 1070 version doesn’t have the strongest GPU heatsink, and it is joined with the CPU heatsink so there will be some heat bleed. Like I said, a 230W PSU can supply more than 230W to the system (not talking about wall draw after efficiency loss).

Or, maybe he did it for flexibility, i.e. sliding it to 130W when the CPU is also being used heavily, or sliding it to 175W when the CPU is lightly loaded or when he upgrades to 330W. Talk about missing the point LMAO.

 

That doesnt make a lick of sense. First of all the F5 heatsink is vastly superior to the turd you have. It can handle the 175W, tho temps would be around low 80s I'd say. And no it cannot supply more power, I don't even know where you got that from.

lmao, flexing TDP because PSU is to weak, telling me I am missing the point omegalul

 

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The Delta 230W PSU can supply 250W to the entire system before shutting down. I've tested this, by bypassing the 230W EC power ID from GTX 1070 detection (EC RAM register E3) and changing it up by 1 (changes it to the 330W power ID--failure to do this will cause the EC to overrule all bios power limit settings and forcibly throttle the CPU heavily to 45W, 25W then 800 mhz. Ouch). Anyway, that's about 280W from the wall.

TDP @ 150 watts on GTX 1070 and a 7820HK can just pass fire strike without tripping the PSU on a 4.5 ghz 7820HK. TDP @ 170W will usually trip the PSU in Fire Strike (PSU light will shut off and laptop will switch to battery power).

I managed a total of 355W from the wall with the 330W PSU. Excessive "battery boost" drain prevents me from going higher (we're talking like 10% every 30 minutes). If I unplug the battery, I could probably reach 370W from the wall but that's too much work. And three EC RAM registers have to be changed in RW Everything to prevent "NOS" throttle (EC has to be tricked into thinking the battery is still inserted).

 

RTX 2070 in a laptop. Not debunked.

 

Assume the opposite of what danish says to be true and you’ll be good. Words to live by.

 

editing...

 

Darn, the video is pulled - the thumbnail shows, but the video is missing - probably not supposed to release the details / name until after Nvidia does their release at 8pm's show:


HP at CES 2019: OMEN 15 Laptop Gets 240 Hz Monitor, New NVIDIA GPU, 802.11ax
by Anton Shilov on January 6, 2019 12:01 PM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13770/hp-at-ces-2019-omen-15-240-hz

Graphics Integrated UHD Graphics 620 (24 EUs)
Discrete " NVIDIA's next-generation GeForce for notebooks" <- no name

 

Video not available.

 

Yeah they pulled it. Seems they let the cat out of the bag early. Guess we’ll see it reposted at a later date or after tonight’s presentation.

240hz laptop at 4ms is impressive stuff. Though other than some esports titles I doubt the 240hz panel will get full use from a 2070.

 

The RTX mobile chips are still under embargo until Nvidia's presentation. The HP spec sheets all say (under embargo) next to GPU.

That being said, most others didn't get the memo so the cat is basically out of the bag now. We should start seeing benchmarks and more exact specs (clocks etc) afterwards though.

 

Guess we can close this thread, lol.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/ces-2019-events-announcements-video-articles.826767/unread