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    Replacement 970m/980m for Clevo P771-DM-G

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by chrisssj3, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. chrisssj3

    chrisssj3 Notebook Guru

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    So my GTX 980M has broken down and there is a good chance I won't be able to repair it.

    I emailed with where I bought my laptop and they say these are the only ones that are compatible with my laptop. (somehow I doubt this is the complete list since i saw some listings of 1070 with my laptop but yeah)
    (note my laptop uses G-Sync)

    GTX 1060 6GB (N17E-G1) - P775DM3-G
    GTX 980M (N16E-GX-A1-6G) - P771DM-G
    GTX 980M (DA2-G) - P771ZM
    GTX 980 Desktop (N16E-GXX) - P771DM-G
    GTX 970M (N16E-GT-6G) - P771DM-G

    If you look here on Alie-Express:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesal...24&SearchText=gtx+980+m&productId=32977438615

    Or on Ebay for that matter you see lots of options.
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=GTX+980M+N16E-GX-A1-6G&_sacat=0

    But you see also they look different from each other (colour differences and or difference in how the parts are placed on the boards)

    Can I trust this? I see them selling around 300 dollar.
    Which 970m or 980m would you trust according to how the pictures look to the original and or person selling it?
     
  2. Mastermind5200

    Mastermind5200 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Dunno if 1070's are confirmed in it, the listings usually just include most model numbers. I'd go for a 1060 if you can find it for ~300-350 USD, if not go for a 980M for like ~$300, can usually find them cheaper off taobao however. I'd say you can trust that listing
     
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    Look for ones that have Clevo menitoned in the listing, since cards made by others e.g. Dell won't work

    Also an indicator of original Clevo parts are the small stickers that clevo usually put on them e.g. S-BJAEKJH and a production date e.g. DEC-'15
    Not absolute because they can fall off or be removed ofc
     
  4. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    I am in the same boat, currently looking at the Quadro P5200, although that should be quite an adventure with regards to EEPROM chip and correct vbios ;)
     
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    Not worth it IMO, way too much money for what it is, even considering the already ridiculous amounts you pay for normal laptop parts
     
  6. jaybee83

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    u pay even more for RTX GPUs, so yeah... btw, im talking about taobao pricing, not the regular quadro pricing :D
     
  7. chrisssj3

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    This laptop cost me 2200 euro and I want it to be able to still play videogames. If a 300 euro replacement can do that for me. I say it's worth it.

    Just bought a RTX 2080 system since I can't wait for parts to arrive for my laptop.

    Is that really true? I am not sure I have looked through EVERY single link on Alie- Express and lots of ads will say it's for BOTH, CLEVO and DELL/ALIENWARE ETC.
    I will post a list of all the people selling it and you'll see:

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/jk4k0gb2pn6fncj/MOBILE+GPU+ALIE+EXPRESS.txt

    In this list I have index on price all mobile GPU cards. As you can see in this list some GPU's look different to each other.
    Some have extra chips, or the chips look different alltogether even when it supposidly is the same chipset type/model.
    Some have NVIDIA logo, some have not.
    Some have a GPU-Z screenshot(most don't). ALL of them except one which cost 600 dollar has a correct GPU-Z which is the same as me.
    The incorrect GPU-Z have:
    No openCL, No PhysX, pixel and texture fill rate are lower wtf?
    PCI E 2.0 x8 ? I have PCI E 3.0 x16. This is my GPU-Z http://prntscr.com/nakkqq

    Appearently there is also G-sync to take into account? I have G-sync laptop. would a non g-sync gpu not work in my laptop? Or just not have the function of G-sync.
    Also all the listings that say clevo is supported ussually say P770 DM-G. But I have an P771- DM-G but is never listed on any list.. Should be fine since my retailer that chip should be supported? but idk..

    How do I know truly if I have the same GPU as mine :(
    Currently I am not trusting it at all... Even if it does work.. reduced performance.. and for how long since they make be fake....

    One thing I noticed is on my pictures of my own 980m is I have a heatsink on the backplate of it. Which most of the ones advertised on alie expres seem to be missing.


    Can someone give me an example of one of the links in the list which should be official according to the pictures?
     
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  8. Mastermind5200

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    I was talking about the P5200.

    The taobao pricing is $1k, which is insanely expensive for what it is.
     
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    um no, its insanely cheap for what it is. have u checked regular p5200 prices like over at eurocom or other resellers? theyre in the range of 2.5k ;) thats the usual quadro markup, my friend, so 1k for a 1080 style mobile card is not that bad. clevo 1080s dont go for much less (im talking new pricing, not the cheapest used one u can sometimes find on ebay ;) )

    plus, dont forget, we are basically talking about a 1080 with 16GB GDDR5 in standard 3.0b form factor. for machines like the DM1 this could be pure gold :)

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    Its insane for its performance, and not going to lie, if you or someone pays that price for one I strongly hold the belief you're silly. That is final, and have you checked prices for normal desktop grade 1080's? Theyre circa $300-350, which is literally less than 1/3 the price. The whole "b-but its a laptop card!" doesn't make much sense to me, they should be cheaper if anything that desktop cards.
     
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    lol, ok, u cant compare desktop to laptop hardware in terms of pricing. that wouldnt lead anywhere :) my current lifestyle doesnt allow for a desktop, no chance. im moving around too much between continents. so yeah, the extra cash u pay is for portability/efficiency, its always been like that...

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  12. chrisssj3

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    Dudes.. you are kinda hijacking my topic.
     
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    apologies! in any case, i stand by my findings that the P5200 is currently the highest performance card in standard mxm form factor :)

    more affordable options would be 1070 standard mxm from ebay or MSI 1060 in standard mxm. turing hasnt yet surfaced in standard mxm flavour, but wouldnt be surprised if smth would pop up sometime this year.... ;)

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    Anyone???
    Would anyone dare to buy a replacement GPU on Ali Express/Ebay?
    If so, which one?

    With the fake sd cards and even fake videocards going around.. with less performance.. im scared to go this route.
     
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    No ones faked a mxm card lol and even if they did, ebay has your back 99.99% of the time, if not them, paypal directly.
    If you decide to go with a shipping agent and taobao, you also have PayPal guarantee
     
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    Are you sure?
    If you look here (it's a text file with adresses for all ads i could find on the card on alie express)
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/jk4k0gb2pn6fncj/MOBILE+GPU+ALIE+EXPRESS.txt

    You will see there are differences in the way the PCB looks. some boards have nvidia logo some not, and some have more components on the board.. so there are differences.
    Not to mention the GPU-Z screenshot at some sellers which differ from my own GPU-Z screenshot.. (No openCL, No PhysX, pixel and texture fill rate are lower, and it says PCI E 2.0 x8 )

    I'd trust ebay a bit more yes then ali express as to buyer protection.
    What do you mean with shipping agent taobao?

    So even if I get a "working card" it doesn't seem that it has to be the same card with the same specs perse if I believe some of the GPU-Z screenshots... so in that sense.. performance would probably be lower and even if it was not that much lower... There would always be a question in my mind, why is this card different then mine, and how long will it continue to work? Not every seller has a GPU-Z screenshot, so maybe those are different.
    But I fear all the cards sold at ali express (or most for that matter, have this weird no opencel/physx lowered pixel and texture fill rate etc..)

    Thus I ask someone more experienced on the 980m here. And or buying mxm cards in general.
     
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    Its almost like there's different vendors of MXM cards or something.....
     
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    thing is, the chinese are very crafty. as such, they take gpu cores of non standard mxm cards and solder them onto standard size mxm cards, usually taken from mobile quadros. and viola, you have yourself a very unique and diverse selection of mxm gpus :) doesnt mean its bad! its just....different :D

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  19. chrisssj3

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    Well if it doesn't have Physx, opencl and operates at lower PCI express version etc. that might be a real problem not to mention how well these cards are built anyway?
    So from what you can see, you can't see a way to determine which one should be official?
     
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    if u want to check, look at official sources for cards/serial numbers/component placement and compare that with the offers on ebay...

    btw the pcie version might just be a power saving feature during idle...

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    What do you mean with official sources?
    Who where?
    Well it might be that the PCIE express version is using that for power saving.. But no Opencl and physx also? You can't play games without those.
     
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    Anyone? Im still stuck on getting an "official part" 970m/980m....
    A "might be" is not good enough.
     
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    You ought to be checking the marketplace on NBR. I just sold one...