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    Replacement screens from eBay. Genuine?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by TheGuyMJP, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. TheGuyMJP

    TheGuyMJP Newbie

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    Hi everyone, I'm after an LP125WH2-SLB1 screen. I've found some on ebay for a decent price, but I'm concerned because it seems a bit too cheap:

    Item# 360638238345

    Are there fake panels out there that I have to be aware of, or do I just need to make sure that the panel really does have the model number I'm after stuck on it (LP125WH2-SLB1 in this case)?

    Thanks,
    Matt
     
  2. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    You should just make sure the model number is right, and it will probably be fine. There aren't really like "fake screens" in the sense that someone is making them in a sweatshop in china or something... it's more a matter of if the seller is wrong about the model numbers, etc.
     
  3. ellalan

    ellalan Notebook Deity

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    In my experience, they seem to send a compatible screen made by another manufacturer saying that due to unavailability of the advertised make they will be sending a compatible screen, in other words a cheaper substitute.
     
  4. Qing Dao

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    I've bought screens on Ebay before and always got the advertised screen. When they list the specific screen model number, they had better send you that screen, otherwise you get your money back. The problem is when someone has no idea about panel model numbers and just orders a screen that the seller says is compatible in their computer. Then they can send you whatever cheap screen they want.
     
  5. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    From what I can tell, the screens on ebay are replacement screens manufactured to a certain spec that is compatible with several laptops. They should work fine but a) it is a third party manufacturer, and b) Qualtiy checking is lower, so more likelihood you will get a bad pixel or 2. No personal experience with them, but I have made note of my options on my e1505 should the screen ever die.
     
  6. TheGuyMJP

    TheGuyMJP Newbie

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    Thanks for the input guys. If it's down to the model number then I guess it would be false advertising if they sent anything different out, which would mean that I'd be covered by ebay's buyer protection. Good to know!

    The screen I'm after is IPS. Does that mean a 'compatible' version could potentially be TN, even if the model number is exactly the same as the original LG panel?
     
  7. ellalan

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    Normally the sellers mention that they may send a compatible screen if the advertised screen unavailable, they use good brand names for their heading ( mainly they use AUO), you need to send a message and get the confirmation from the seller that actually they have it in stock.
     
  8. KLF

    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

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    In this case it's hard to say what actually is genuine...

    You just described every display manufacturer in the world, which there isn't that many to begin with :)
    LG, Samsung, Chi Mei, Au Optronics, Hitachi-Matsua, Mitsubishi, Sharp. Any others? It's a bit different to make counterfeit LCD panels than t-shirts.

    Every panel is 3rd party to someone. There are standards which they comply with, so compatibility comes from that. Quality, panel properties make the difference and the cheapest ones online might be those that did not pass quality check before they were shipped to OEM.
     
  9. ajkula66

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    My eyes are quite bad but...I don't see LG insignia anywhere on the pictured LCD...:confused:
     
  10. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    I would send a message through ebay and ask them. I would generally expect it to be tn.

    When I say 3rd party, I mean that it was designed, manufactured, and sold without the knowledge or input of the main party, not that it wasn't asus who made the panel. There is actually a booming market now for asian suppliers to manufacture replacement parts for end of life equipment. These parts are not necessarily cheap knockoffs, instead the manufacturers uses a robust manufacturing process to build electronics that work over a large range of products. I'm sure they don't make the glass, but the mounts and electronics are probably theirs. However I am pretty sure LG stopped making the panel for my e1505 many years ago.
     
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    A "compatible" screen would most likely be TN. It would have to carry a different manufacturer's part number, though.

    I'd be leery of a seller who sells a *glossy* (as per their own listing) replacement panel for an IPS panel seen in X220/230...but that's me.

    Good luck.
     
  12. TheGuyMJP

    TheGuyMJP Newbie

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    If they sent me a panel that had the exact model number on it ( LP125WH2-SLB1 ) would it be 100% likely to be an original LG IPS panel?

    Edit: ajkula66 just pretty much answered my question:

     
  13. Qing Dao

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    There are no fake panels. If it has the number on it, it is that panel.
     
  14. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Fixed it for you...
     
  15. Qing Dao

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    Are you saying that there are panels with fake numbers on them?
     
  16. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Huh. No.

    What I AM saying is that the number must be entirely correct for the panel to be a proper one, none of the "it will work in XYZ laptop so hence it's compatible" ...and we'll ship you a bottom-of-the-barrel Samsung TN instead of "grade A" LG Philips IPS...

    Do we understand each other now?

    There's a reason why Lenovo - as well as IBM before them - had FRU numbers assigned along with P/N number that are both independent from the manufacturer's own part number.

    In real life, that translates into the fact that - for example - FRU 13N7076 can only be Boe Hydis model HV150UX1-100, not HV150UX1-101 and most definitely not not some third-party panel which would work in the given laptop, but has an entirely different set of specs...
     
  17. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    Keep in mind these are asian remakes, they could be using the old model numbers they are supposed to be compatible with to make things easier.

    Realistically if your panel was LG model MI400ab and you saw a brand new MI400ab on ebay... its not going to be LGs MI400ab that was produced 6 years ago for your laptop, it is going to be a compatible version engineered in the past year or 2.
     
  18. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Not necessarily.

    I've seen a lot NOS (New Old Stock) LCDs on feebay over the last couple of years...
     
  19. jook33

    jook33 Notebook Evangelist

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    do not buy panels on ebay unless the seller is willing to provide you an exact # on the panel that is being shipped, most won't because it's part of their money making game to sell you a compatible panel that is worse in quality probably or are just too large of a company to indivdually cater to your needs... just my advice for your panel endeavors
     
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  20. jeffmd

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    jook, they probably are pretty average panels, but keep in mind most people buying them are looking for replacements, not upgrades. In which case you are pretty limited as far as original stock replacements go on old equipment.
     
  21. Qing Dao

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    No duh. If a specific panel has a specific number, obviously if the number is different, it is not the same panel..... I mean, isn't that simply the inverse of what I said in the first place?
     
  22. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    You originally wrote...emphasis mine...

    What you're saying now - in the post just above this one - is more specific and therefore correct.
     
  23. ellalan

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    For the very same reason I bought my AUO panel from USA, paid more for a used panel than buying a useless compatible new panel locally, every seller refused to confirm that they would send me the advertised panel.
     
  24. TheGuyMJP

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    A quick update.

    I found a used panel on ebay with the exact model number I'm after. It was a little more expensive than the others (about £10 more), but at least it's a genuine IPS panel!

    Thanks for the help everyone.
     
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