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    Requesting Info! Amd RX 470 Mobile. mxm? power draw?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by FluffyPuppy, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. FluffyPuppy

    FluffyPuppy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im one of those ppl who wont retire my old clevo and im sure many of you love your old bulky laptops too and dont really wish to buy a new one yet.

    Im wondering the power required for rx470m and what dimensions it fits and panel requirements.

    Cmon amd lemme breath life into my Everything else good but the GPU dont cut it anymore laptop: at an affordable price.

    I been googling forever to no avail except for the alienware leaks so to speak and speculation. Anywhere has something solid yet? hands on.
     
  2. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    RX480M MXM 3.0b exists. However no-one's got one working stable on a Clevo yet. They work, they fit, they boot, but the laptop beeps like mad and powers off in a minute because a thermal signal is missing - the Clevo EC does this supposedly to protect the GPU from dying due to a failed thermal sensor (so, it forces the GPU to play dead instead). Or, maybe this is a convenient way of Clevo locking out third party cards. Hmmmm.

    Even if it were to work there's still the question of power draw, it's quoted the same "150W TDP" as the desktop RX480 which is very high for a single slot MXM. But, the desky 480 responds very well to undervolting, that however hurts overclock potential, and compared to its performance competitor the 1060, which overclocks well and starts at around 80W, that's why there's been little interest anyway. There's rumours of a revised Polaris 10 based MXM 3.0b "E9550" which is the same chip at 120W, but there's still no evidence of its existence apart from its announcement

    As for the 460M/470M I haven't seen any MXMs of them (existing models are probably all BGA soldered to mobo), and are still only comparable with 970M/980M in the few benches around, so go for one of them. Or if you must have a latest gen you can go for a MSI 1060 MXM (not clevo version with wierd shape and extra power connector requirement) with a bit of help from @woodzstack here on the forums to make sure you get the right vbios and your existing heatsink will fit
     
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  3. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Yeah i have 1060N's and they are great! The AMD(mobile) cards have always been a disappointment, they always die, but are relatively cheap/inexpensive seemingly, until you factor in your going to be replacing it three times before you learn your lesson.
     
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  4. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Yeah, like nGREEDIA's 9 series aren't dying left and right, or anything 5 series, or anything 100W. It might take a a bit longer*, but eventually you'll have a paperweight. GPUs are dying, deal with it and stop pointing finger in only one direction!

    * Not exactly granted, compare 780m vs 8970m. The 680m vs 7970m is what you are referring to, it doesn't stop 680ms from dying though. What about 580m/675m vs 6970m? Yes, 6970m die, but tell me a single 580m/675m that's stock (i.e. came with the laptop and is still kickin')? It's about tie in this case.

    Not exactly rumors, since it was on one of the slides for the embedded market and quite likely that's the reason no one has seen it yet. Also it's 95W, not 120W.
     
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  5. FluffyPuppy

    FluffyPuppy Notebook Enthusiast

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    You have a massive point i stopped using amd since the 7970m or something of that nature and enduro or whateevr it was called crap and the card's issues, went wioth the 680m. i've been happy with the card until well this gen and last year. cant play darksouls 3 well or most of the games i like. i wish the 980m upgrade kits would drop in price to 500 somfin, but i see even my card(680) selling for 600+ still online. im like wtf.
     
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    FluffyPuppy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was wondering because Alienware has the 470 cards in their 13 inch models and well im so familiar with alienware having cards out there on ebay for upgrades and other laptop resellers/vendors.

    im in a p150em with a 680. The processor is great i dont see a massive difference i think its still better than the current quad i5 mobiles according to some cpucompare thing i saw. its also cheap to upgrade for about 300 i guess and so many laptop cpu pulls out there.
     
  7. FluffyPuppy

    FluffyPuppy Notebook Enthusiast

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    holycrap man thankyou for letting me know about taobao.com
    i could get cards way cheaper. ijust gotta figureout what to buy which card :O

    i know eurocom has a bios. now the whole brackets and heatsinks thingie worries me.
     
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    darnok44 Notebook Consultant

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  9. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    We don't know whether or not we can get them separately.