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    Restarting and shutting down laptop everyday with SSD *side effect*

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by bunta, Jun 27, 2009.

  1. bunta

    bunta Notebook Consultant

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    So, like the title says...

    is there a bad effect on an SSD (Intel x25-m- Windows 7) if i turn it off and on everyday. Since restarting (22secs) and shutting down (5secs) is sooo fast, im getting into a habit of shutting it down and restarting it everyday... I dont know why i do, i just do..

    So, is there a bad side to doing this??
     
  2. maumu

    maumu Notebook Consultant

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    don't we all shut down our lappies if we're not using anymore? or are u saying u've the habit of restarting every now and then, like 10 times a day? :D
     
  3. Undertaxxx

    Undertaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    leaving it on 24/7 cant be good either now can it..

    If you only shut it down when you go to sleep etc it's fine.. i think
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    Why is everyone so paranoid about SSD's? Just use it like you normally would use a notebook and backup your data periodically. I doubt the normal user would "wear out" an SSD with the daily tasks they perform before they buy a new notebook PC anyhow, usually in about three years.

    I had a Sony Vaio notebook that was over seven years old and still had all original equipment including hard drive and was still alive and kicking. Well, I actually had to replace the battery and that was it. And sold it on eBay for $200.
     
  5. thetank256

    thetank256 Notebook Enthusiast

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    you could also try hibernate or sleep mode. Hibernate only uses something like 1% of the normal power, and none of that goes to the had drive.
     
  6. madmook

    madmook Notebook Evangelist

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    There better not be, I specifically bought the higher-priced (as compared to other MLC ssds of equal/higher capacities) Intel X-25M SSD because it is supposed to be of superior quality. I mean, I know the standard mean-time-before-failure hours of flash memory are still in effect, but until those hours are up I expect it to power through whatever work conditions I throw at it.

    And thusfar I have no complaints. I say go ahead and turn that laptop on and off as many times as you desire, as I too quite enjoy the expedited boot times.
     
  7. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hibernation would actually be WORSE for your SSD, because it's writing a whole chunk of data (as much RAM as you have in your system) to your drive every time you hibernate.
    Stick to sleep or shutting down.
     
  8. useroflaptops

    useroflaptops Notebook Evangelist

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    yea. unless you are intending to keep your work open while you close, you may as well shutdown. the hibernation file is like 2 gb

    does shutting down involve writing data also (name them specifically), bt obviously not as much as hibernation
     
  9. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Short: No.

    A bit longer: get off the paranoia-hype about the longevity of ssds. that is just because people are envy that they can not afford buying one. ergo they bash-point-the-finger on it. let them be happy with that believe, and know better. at worst (full overwriting of all data all the time at full speed) that drive dies in 3.5 years. that is, if it runs for 24/7. now imagine it running 8h a day => 10years+. imagine that most of the time, you're not even near to 1% of the disk write maximum. => chances are big you die before it dies (somehow sad, but somehow not :)).
     
  10. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hibernate uses 0 power, and writes all the ram data to the hard drive => you mixed it up with standby.

    if you have 4gb ram, hibernating means writing down 4gb of data, and loading it up at boot again.
     
  11. Apollo13

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    With hibernation, you write however much data is being stored in RAM (and virtual memory as well if you have that enabled) to the hard drive. RAM that isn't being used isn't written to the hard drive. As such, you'll notice a big difference in hibernation time on a 4 GB RAM system with 512 MB in use versus 2.5 GB in use.
     
  12. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    till today, i haven't noticed that difference. on the other hand, i can measure my hdd speed, and calculate how much time it will take to write the hiberationfile if it writes the full amount of ram (a.k.a. 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, depending on the system), and how long it takes to load it up again, and yes, it takes exactly that amount of time, everytime.

    so while i really hope your statement is true, i have so far not encountered any sign of it (which would mean much faster hibernation/shutdown for me)