Revealed: Ryzen 2000 series CPUs and x470 chipset, along with pricing! In par to Coffeelake!

Well, AMD has now jumped in for their new Pinnacle ridge now.
Things to note, there are no news of 2800x and of Threadripper, and these are backwards compatible!
Ryzen 2000 series:

These are going to be 12nm+ chips with traditional 16 pcie lanes( duh, i thought they would be gen 4)

More amped XFR and precision boost!


Things on X470:
Traditional 16 pcie lanes( duh, these arent pcie gen 4!)


i7 8700k vs R7 2700x:

Now here is the thing which matters most for us!
These new guns show considerable increment in performance over intel coffeelake and over their prior Zens!

Despite 6cores, intel still performs bette then ryzen in *some* games, while in some, it is in par with 2700x. Possible reason could be optimization.

 

that slight disadvantage in gaming doesnt surprise me compared to CFL. its unimportant anyways, those 7.7% can be equalized via overclocking and wouldnt make a difference in FPS anyways what im MORE interested in, however, is performance in multi-threaded tasks. thats where 8700K and down will get their asses handed to them

ill expect TR and 2800X to be delayed at least until summer, with the latter maybe launching a bit sooner...

in any case, very exciting!!!

 

especially considering that in 4k gaming even a first gen i5 will do just fine.

 

R7 1800x vs R7 2700x:
Somewhat better then prior gen Zen

X470:
Asus and Asrock are going to feature the most no of x470 MoBo.

The new motherboards will have better power layout and disable-any-usb-you-want function(maybe, they've put lanes in parallel here). Also, THEY ARE GOING TO BE BOOTABLE VIA NVMe RAID!!!!

Also enhanced XFR 2.0, and better sensemi tech for x470!

New Wraith prism coolers!:

Something we dont want!

 

that 5% difference is pretty sweet, considering the 2700X is pitted against a higher-tier 1800X makes you wonder what the 2800X will bring to the table. im betting AMD is still optimizing the 2800X in order to be able and beat the 8700K in gaming performance. that would be sweet! could be theyre waiting for better binning / more higher-binned cpus to be able and push out such a 2800X

 

Well, i believe 1800x were just binned 1700x, so maybe this time AMD dosent want to do crap like nvidia did for 1070ti and 1080.

If they're comparing 2700x with a 1800x, then its most probably we wont see 2800x.

This is what defines Ryzen! Crush the multi threaded workloads!!!

 

@Vasudev - you said right you were planning to build a ryzen pc? Maybe, you should wait now

 

this is also the reason why Ryzen is the superior CPU all around. It does so much better on tasks where CPU actually matter. Everytime I see people saying how their 8700K is outperforming ryzen in 1080p while playing on 4k with a 1080ti makes me always question some peoples intelligence.

I think there are only few tasks where the higher single core performance of the 8700K would matter. One thing I can think of is Emulation.

 

Well, I'm really longing to see these things in a laptop chassis( Oh god no Asus, they really $hitted out the gl702zc).

Just imagine a clevo with R7 2700x and gtx 1080 sli! Oh la la!

 

Good news for you then, I got pgHenry to consider AMD and it is now happening. He is going to build a custom notebook with a AM4 socket, I also send him a link to this thread so he can look into the B450 chipset. It was planned to go for B350 but seeing that the B450 chipset is out, he might go for the newer, if it would be worth it.

Sadly its yet unknown if the notebook will get MXM or not, but the speakers are going to be crazy good.

 

I am going TR 2 or even Zen2 based TR. As for notebook Intel reigns superior and I might get a Clevo from Hid too when I'd fly to the US just to buy it, hahaaa.

 

Damn I also wanted to build Ryzen PC... But there is no announcements of laptops with Ryzen 2700X...
I'd like to see MSI GT73 with Ryzen... I know... maniacal wishes...

 

ryzen did a pretty good job this time around. wccf has an article showing clock for clock comparison, not only 200-300mhz higher but also memory controller improvement. look at the latency reduced with the ram at same speed in their chart. thats an overall decent jump in improvement that intel would never give, that or intel's cpu already so optimized they cant optimize it any more.

neverthless this is good for all, this will further pressure intel into releasing consumer 8 core, in 2 yrs we go from 4-8 cores, im sure intel had plans to milk 6 cores consumer for next decade but they can't do that anymore, now we just need AMD to go consumer 10 or 12c with ryzen3

 

and then say hello to TR with 32 cores baby!

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There are rumors of 2800x with 10c/20t and ryzen TR 2950x with 24c/48t

 

link pls!

and HA, i knew AMD was up to something with the 2800x, hence the delayed release

hmmm, now lets see... 24 cores vs. the previous 16, thats 50% more cores. i could imagine theyre aiming for at least identical clocks to the 1950x, so at those specs the 24 core TR would have sufficient juice to overtake the 7980xe and then some!

reasoning: performance wise, the 1950x is faster than the 7940x but a tad slower than the 7960x, so basically equivalent to a skylake-x with "15 cores". so that would be 15/16 = 93.75% performance at equal core count. so a 24 core TR would theoretically be equal to 93.75% of 24 cores = 22.5 cores of skylake x. definitely enough to kick some intel butt

man, u gotta LOVE the ongoing core wars!

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https://community.amd.com/thread/222013

 

That is wishful thinking. Zen+, or 12nm, is just a tweaking of the current cores. I do not see the 2800x unless down the line they can all of a sudden eek out 4.6 GHz in XFR2. The TR should be about the same, still not a 7980XE killer.

Now Zen2 or 7nm may be a different story but that is yet to be seen. It would be nice for AMD to be able to put a beat down on Intel, at least for a while.

 

haha makes for an interesting read, although the author clearly states that those listings are just his wishful thinking

so lets wait and see what the reality will look like the least i would expect would be a 2950X with raised clocks and optimized memory controller, just like with the 2700X. that would already be sufficient to beat the 7960x and hopefully provide some extra overclocking headroom as well

 

For those who missed it, it seems to fully use the new clocks you need the new x470 chipset. The x370 will not have the enhanced turbo or extended XFR2.

 

just manually overclock the cpu?

 

Probability is both will directly overclock the same. The amount of course is as of yet unknown. Remember most users do not overclock their systems. This is especially true of mom's and pop's purchasing an OEM system. Since this is where the majority of the market lies this is what needs concern with.