Ryzen vs i7 (Mainstream); Threadripper vs i9 (HEDT); X299 vs X399/TRX40; Xeon vs Epyc

Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Motherboard Line and Specs Also Surface - Quad Channel-Guru3d.com

 

Is that only 1 pci-e x 4 ? if so NOT!

 

More, Meh... Intel Core i7-8700K Cinebench CB 15 Benchmarks-Guru3d.com

@ole!!! Be prepared to run into the toilet and throw up, if this is all you get And don't look into the mirror. All you will see is a sick man

Edit. The Single threaded score isn't bird or fish. See my older test 4.7GHz Single threaded CinbenchR score (205cb) I showed you.

This scores is fishy. Very fishy. Some pulled a joke. Do your math,bruh. This is 50x single Threaded score in CBR-15

Fire up the ugly pastel calculator in Windoze X, if you still have it. And calculate a score for 50% moore cores based on 4.3GHz boost clock all cores.

 

maybe hp omni computer w/e test bench had some sort of lock down? not sure tbh.

in reality i wouldnt expect ST performance to improve that much over 7700k if theres any changes at all, for all we know IMC went from 2400 to 2666 thats it.

 

196cb in Single threaded with 4.7GHz is trash. 196cb isn't bird or fish!! Something is fishy with showed scores.
If yoo see the multi threaded bench... Intel's 6 core is most likely 4.3GHz boost on all 6 cores vs. AMDs lower clocked Ryzen [email protected]. + Ryzen have lower IPC. Watch, you can see Ryzen 1600X is in front. Even if 8700K had 3.7GHz boost for all 6 cores, higher IPC should put Intel's new chips in front. Even with 4.0GHz on all 6, should scores be a way over 1325cb. And not barely over 12oocb

 

yea man i donno whats going on maybe turbo is disabled or something rofl. i gotta wait for anand, toms and other review sites now too much stuff circulate.

honestly though i dont care so much as how much points they should be at around 4.3 or 5ghz etc, tom and anand does well here basically test old cpu to new cpu all at 3ghz and compare IPC, that way we can really see if its the 11% intel claim, which i highly doubt it.

 

3GHz or stock 4.5 /4.7GHz single core boost doesn't matter if you look for promised increased IPC in single threaded bench. I can figure the correct numbers by myself. And all the bench numbers we seeing floating around is fake!! Or done with base clock frequency. At least for this multi threaded CBR-15 bench.

Edit. See @ole!!! 7920BGA Aka 3.7GHz 4 core boost(Cinbench R15 - 814cb). Put on 50% more cores. And what will the CBR-15 multi core score be? Random? If my numbers is about correct... We won't see any IPC improvements!!

 

its always good reference to have at hand because leaks are always just random benches at some sort of frequency. 8700k even if the IPC remains the same as 7700k as long as its not a downgrade in ST i'll be getting a clevo lappy. finally time for upgrade so STOKED yo!

so stoked until we see cpu heatsink getting gimped once again, then i might jump to MSI 17" instead with superior cpu heatsink but crappier bios and vbios =(

 

See my Edit And do your math

 

damn 1221 vs 1230 ewwwww

no doubt the name coffeelake, because add milk in it, milk lake.

 

YEEES, bruh

 

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL thatw intel's head quarter

 

Café au Lait Lake >< Covfefe con Leche Lake

 

Well, to add a bit of fuel;
http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-intel_core_i7_7700k-664

 

I don't trust cpu-monkey.com at all...



More correct from more serious websites as... Anandtech.com and Kitguru.net

 

looking at the ST for 8700k scored 218 on CB15, that seem to me CPU monkey is even less credible tahn even before. they basically took a random score from leak and slap it on, if they dont have cpu to actually test them selves then their score will be consist of many different test beds.

forever never trust cpu monkey, one of the worst website out there.

 

Not that I trust them but for a comparison say; http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-amd_ryzen_7_1700x-706

 

Exactly same ****y here as well... The comparison numbers from Cpu-****y-Monkey.com isn't worth a penny!! 1.91 vs. 1.74


Vs. Tweaktown.com

 

The two scores you compare here are 11.5 to R15?

 

Thanks, edited my post. See also Cpu-Monkey.com doing cut and paste from technikaffe.de Or the opposite, LOL

 

Putting a little more distance between the 8700 and 1800x

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_7_1800x-705-vs-intel_core_i7_7700k-664

 

The 1800x should be a better CPU but the z370 chipset seems very limited on PCI-e. This will kill its ability to compete in gaming etc.. You would think Intel would be learning by now.

 

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remember back when CNL was suppose to be here end of 2015 or early 2016 there was articles of CNL to be going from 2c/4c to 6c/8c. wondering how much of that still true now theres no way intel will give us 8 cores if enough people buy their CFL 6c though.

 

If only AMD could increase clock speed + higher OC for everything aka R5 1600 and up in mainstream. Intel would be eaten to breakfast, dinner and supper. Just let Intel continue with 6 cores as best for mainstream in the future, and I'm sure we will see a disgusting bloodbath. Intel need to come up with 8 cores with Z390 for 2018... Or the train will pass!!

 

AMD Ryzen Threadripper Does Have Four 8-Core Dies (32-cores)-guru3d.com

"Well, these dummies seem to be 8-core dies (these are called Zeppeling dies). I personally think that AMD simply might be is re-using failed dies here and simply called them dummies as in non-working dies. No-body really knows except AMD of course."


Edit...
Threadripper Delidding Reveals Epyc In Disguise – AMD 32 Core Desktop CPU Maybe In The Works

"This means that AMD, well… has the means – forgive the wordplay – to actually produce and launch a desktop processor with up to 32 cores. der8auer goes one step further to postulate that this is the very reason AMD is using four dies, because it may in fact have plans to produce a 32 core desktop processor."

 

Intel To Launch Ice Lake 8 Core, 16 Thread Mainstream CPUs in Second Half of 2018 – Will Feature Support on 300 Series Platform

"Intel seems to be preparing a new series of processors which will further boost the core count of their mainstream platform. The said processor lineup is planned for launch in second half of 2018 and it might be making use of the latest 10nm process technology."

 

The stories are getting wilder and wilder...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-coffee-lake-status.807915/page-37#post-10601965

"Well, well, well, "Iced Coffee Lake" in 2H18...

Intel To Launch Ice Lake 8 Core, 16 Thread Mainstream CPUs in Second Half of 2018 – Will Feature Support on 300 Series Platform
http://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-ice-lake-8-core-16-thread-mainstream-cpu-leak/

"The details come from Eurocom, a known manufacturer of high-end laptops and workstations that are designed to be mobile yet fully upgradable.

A representative of the company revealed on Note book Review forums that they will update their Tornado F5 laptop to the Z390 chipset, supporting Intel’s 8 Core, 16 Thread CPUs arriving in 2H 2018. The rep also mentioned that the Tornado F7 will also receive an update but the company has no plans to update their Tornado series to the current Z370 chipset which launches in a few weeks."

And, the leak comes full circle back to NBR

 

Yeah, I don't trust all coming out everywhere, but I'm sure Intel can't live with that Amd can offer 8 cores chips for mainstream. Intel screwed up and created the mess (Z370-390) by themselves. Started long time ago. Only offer 6 cores for mainstream platform is low end!! The Z370 Chipset smells panic!!! Long way.

 

And, now the stink continues through to 2H18

If Z390 is going to be on the 1151(?) it's still supposed to be non-compatible with the Coffee Lake #1 releasing first, which means there are 3 non-compatible CPU / socket releases back to back: Z2xx, Z37x(1), Z39x(2)

Intel is really blowing off their customer base if that's true, of course any of this can change depending on what AMD releases next year, and Intel has to scurry around once again.

 

It's Bad for high performing laptops with LGA socket. But imagine desktops? A not small amount desktop users will be damn Angry Or better, very Angry

 

well this is good, 8 core intel laptop with latest technology isnt so far away, it'll be a good replacement for my current 4960x and 1680v2 at only 4.4 and 4.3ghz 6c/8c. with HEDT being up to 18 cores its kinda sad that laptop can only do 6 cores.

honestly now theres MSI F7 and then clevo, two choices we get to see some real good stuff about laptops that actually has LGA and MXM which both has possibility of sports 8 cores.

the last time i was this excited about laptop news was GT83VR, ASUS water cooling laptop and Acer 21x, too bad those hype died fast due to BGA junk. i gonna be honest i was this close getting GT83VR now good thing i didnt pull the trigger, mainstream is now moving to 6c/8c with possibly better IPC.

 

You should follow through on the GT83, something to use until AMD comes out with their Ryzen II releases to combat Intel. You don't want to get into the Intel mess, certainly don't count on anything being said now, wait for an actual release.

IDK how Intel plan on doing Coffee Lake #2 + Ice lake at the same time on the same z370 motherboard chipset, that doesn't make any sense really unless they plan on Ice Lake #1 on 14nm, and later follow through with the Ice Lake 10nm motherboard chipset + CPU.

Too many questions on what's really going to ship a year from now to rely on it, and continue to wait.

Lots of hours of gaming between now and then on a GT83VR.

Check out @mason2smart 's used one list in the NBR Marketplace, it's at a discount, and you might get it for even less making an offer

 

Yoo know very well, GT83 ain't a option for @ole!!! And others as well, who prefer OC'd cpu powa!! Not all want be screwed with Intel BGA.

 

I guess you didn't notice, @ole!!! himself brought it up as his current choice

BGA wins again!!

 

Oh' Yeah, I saw it
He heard and believed a little too much on the rumors... Aka the Joke should come with LGA!!

 

Not sure if covered, non LN2 but dang 4x sli GTX 1080 TI's
http://digiworthy.com/2017/09/10/amd-3dmark-hall-of-fame/

 

It is pretty incredible, but in a bad way, how a single stupid decision can utterly destroy a product that otherwise had great potential to be desirable. BGA will always be an unacceptable, fatal flaw. It is also reflective of a lack of ingenuity, character and integrity on the part of the manufacturer. A BGA Ryzen turdbook would be no less horrible and unfortunate than an Intel BGA turdbook.

 

well that was when they improved cpu heastink from gt80. i had to think hard about what happens to my cherry CPU when mobo goes bad i dont get to keep them. it just wasnt worth it could very well get a crap chip after a mobo replacement just not worth the hassle.

 

no man, 1070 sli and 7920HQ wtff. if i get gt83vr it has to be the unlocked version lol.

1070 is like almost 2yrs old now, and mainstream 6 or 8 cores coming soon from intel, theres simply no point. had i bought it when it first came out maybe it'll be worth playing around a bit. time to wait for tornado F7 and clevo with icelake 8 cores

 

All talk about the rumors/statement from @Eurocom Support Now also in Guru3d.com - Sweclockers.com Spread like a forest fire

Cherry Kaby i7 BGA chips? ... Lucky → 4.6 or 4.7GHz? Or very lucky →→ 4.8GHz but with throttling? Kaby with 4.6GHz is almost stock clocked Kaby LGA, bruh.

 

Forever waiting...that's playing the waiting game, not a "real game".

 

That's a lot of useless "what-if's", none of which have been reported... so it's "all in your head".

Again, that's playing mind games, "not a real game"!

None of my BGA laptops needed CPU replacements, no motherboard replacements, only 1 out of 9 needed RMA on 1 of 2 GPU's (7 years ago), with no other problems - Asus, MSI, Acer, HP, all ran great.

I didn't sit there and dream up reasons not to do it, I did it

 

"You can see here from the Top 15 runs in the 3DMark Fire Strike Ultra Hall of Fame that Intel absolutely dominates, but the #12 spot goes to 'Finnsk3' who ran the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X with 4 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti cards in SLI.

Finnsk3 used the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X on the ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme motherboard, with 32GB of G.SKILL 3600MHz DDR4 RAM, and 4 x GTX 1080 Ti cards in SLI. The Ryzen Threadripper 1950X was clocked @ 4.17GHz, which provides a score that beats out the Core i9-7900X from Intel."

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59063/ryzen-threadripper-1950x-enters-3dmark-hall-fame/index.html"

 

theres nothing wrong with it because AMD is always playing the catch up game too. honestly though 6 cores or 8 cores is probably worth the wait, it'll be a giant CPU leap. i can only hope that whatever laptop houses those CPU will have giant heatsink so i dont disappoint. optane is right around the corner too, WORTH

 

My concern was PCIe lanes but supposedly the z390 will have 24 so that seems doable.

 

from the cpu? isnt it just 16? for chipset it didnt change much from z270 except extra features. was hoping for 30 pcie lanes for z390 so there can be 1 more NVMe PCIE SSD slot along with two SATA 6gbps slot.

 

24 from the chipset below
http://wccftech.com/intel-x299-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-z370-coffee-lake-s-z390-cannonlake-cpu-details/

 

@ajc9988 @TANWare u guys got your TR yet?

 

i totally understand, but mine is a really good deal! I had MSI perform an extra q/a on it as well before they sent it to me.