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    SSD Optimization Perfect Disk vs O&O Defrag

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I have a license for both Perfect Disk and O&O Defrag.

    I liked how O&O Defrag usually detects if you have an SSD and doesn't do anything but send a TRIM command to the SSD to optimize it

    Now the problem is...... if you have your SSDs setup in a RAID Array, it would consider them an HDD and not an SSD thus, the optimize with TRIM command is greyed out.

    Today, they released O&O Defrag Pro 18, guess what? it looks exactly the same as v17, and doesn't support RAID, and those buggers want me to pay for upgrade! hell no! not upgrading for a version number change with no enhancements to the program

    So I just installed Perfect Disk which the SSD Guru Tilleroftheearth swears by and it also detected my RAID array as an HDD........BUT.......

    in Perfect Disk, if you go to the drive options, you can actually force detect it as an SSD so that's what I did and now i'm very happy

    just wanted to share this for anyone who is on RAID with an SSD that there IS a way to optimize them

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    Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 16, 2014
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    hmmm.....would u even need an extra program for that? afaik raid trim is supported since IRST 11.5 and thus can be easily accessed through the OS-built in optimization function, shouldnt it?
     
    jaybee83, Sep 18, 2014
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    baii Sone

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    Win7 do not have manual trim.
     
    baii, Sep 18, 2014
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    PerfectDisk does not optimize SSDs by sending TRIM commands, that's natively supported in the OS as you said. What it does is does something called Free Space Consolidation which according to tilleroftheearth does improve performance.

     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 18, 2014
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    I still don't understand how it can do free space consolidation. When you send a command to the SSD, the controller determines where the data is at on the SSD. I don't care if it shows all files in sequence, on the SSD they could be anywhere due to wear leveling. Only the controller really knows where the data is placed, it's just causing unnecessary wear. It's like copying, pasting, deleting the same data.
     
    HTWingNut, Sep 20, 2014
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    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Of course it can do free space consolidation (MS' built in defragger can do the same to a limited degree...).

    That is the point where the SSD/HDD reports the largest free space available as one continuous chunk, vs. it broken up into smaller useless chunks.

    PD is essentially defragging the free space, if it helps you to think of it like that. ;)
     
    tilleroftheearth, Sep 20, 2014
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  7. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Wait does Win 8.1 have this? I would love to know how to engage it when needed....
     
    TomJGX, Sep 20, 2014
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    search for optimise disk in start and ull find it ;)
     
    jaybee83, Sep 20, 2014
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