SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

prices for flash went up quite a bit last spring due to the finance-crysis and less resources, or what ever.

well, the prices went up again after falling for long. i could buy 128gb for 200$ back then (samsung ssd), so 512 for 800$ should have been possible back then, if available. sadly, now the prices are up quite a bit again. hopefully they'll fall again.

 

Are there any 9.5 mm 512 GB on the market? I mean, actually in stock for less than $2000.

 

no. then again, what do you want to use it for? for data, an ssd is not worth it anyways.. (but i'd like to see someone coming with real need for that much storage at f.e. 200MB/s readwrite speed.)

i've seen f.e. realtime raytracers for massive models (billions and billions of triangles based on CAD models) who have need for the massive speed and low latency to access the huge dataset randomly.

that would be a need. but they can pay 2000$ for that disk with ease anyways

so what would be your need? curiousity over everything

(at home, i'm all 80gb, laptop 160gb, and soon i'll move from 80gb to 40gb on some systems. none of the disks more than half full)

 

not sure, the thing just didn't work. plug it in nothing, try and boot with nothing it installed nothing. even with the mini USB port nothing.

anyone have any industy inside knowledge on pricing, I'm considering grabbing a 80GB intel for my desktop.

 

typical crap controllers. they always love to die for no particular reason. cheap manufacturing.. the flash itself normally isn't the problem.

 

There are enthusiasts all over the internet who apparantly just like having the biggest fastest available components with no real need for them other than want. How could someone justify spending $700 each for 8 X-25E's $1000 for a hardware RAID card and 6g compatible mobo and use it only for benchmarking? Bragging rights?

 

I suppose home video editing if you have HD videos... and gigantic panoramas in Photoshop could stress that

If you try to merge say - hmm, 100 21MP RAW files in Photoshop say

(I did merge 30 10MP Jpegs once... took 40 minutes and had a more than 30GB Temp file - and my HDD was one of the limiting factors here - the temp file writing)

 

some people have more money than than they know what to do with. (for those people you can donate to me )

 

And then there is the U.S. government with a seemingly insatiable demand for the latest and greatest of everything electronic. Just last year they added over 6 million sq ft of new access flooring over many new 600,000 sqft buildings. You know they have to fill them buildings up with computers.

 

and none of these except maybe detlev have shown me a need.

even in detlevs case, no sir, editing hd doesn't need 512gb normally at all .. and most likely you'd have a powerhorse laptop for this, which would allow 2 or 3 hdds. there, performant 160gb ssd + 750gb hdd or so would fit the needs better.


and no, dudes, wants are not needs but they are a legitimate reason to buy stuff just for the fun of it

 

SSD destructive test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7W9zeZyhxw&feature=player_embedded&fmt=22

 

C300 pricing:
"The Crucial RealSSD C300 will be available in two capacities: 128GB and 256GB with 7% of the NAND capacity used as spare area. The drives will be priced at $399 and $799 respectively. OEMs will get drives starting at the end of this month, but the Crucial drives will be available for purchase in February."
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3712

 

nice, it's the realSSD that micron one that looks like it could be very good?

 

it looks the reliability of micron's crucial brand current 256GB SSD is questionable. 3 out of total 19 reviews died or get corrupted files within 60 days from newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...eoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&Page=1&Keywords=

although its performance from benchmarks seems quite nice:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2846/crucial_m225_256gb_solid_state_disk/index6.html
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/10/05/review_storage_crucial_ssd/print.html

now the question, does the new C300 from micron with crucial brand have same questionable reliability?

 

stick with OCZ

 

well, there is definatly advantages not being the first adopter

 

This Crucial SSD is with Indilinx controller, I think there is no need to worry about new ones with Micron.

 

any word on the random 4k R/W of the new micron? has intel finally be topped?

 

but power consumption seems to be higher than intel:

Average Power (active/standby) C300: 3.9W* / <100mW

http://www.micron.com/products/real_ssd/ssd/client/index

 

no, because

ocz uses the same as everyone else as controller chip (indilinx, samsung, back in it's days jmicron). they all are about the same stuff. great if it works, but quick to market, with budget only to 'get it to sell'.

which is why i only would ever trust intel or samsung. those two at least don't have to care about quick to market, or about it actually being profitable at all. if it at least helps the image, it's marketing for their other products.

they can spend time on make the thing work, even in worst cases. making it reliable.


ocz would have never taken back their newest ssd for half a year because of some late showstopper bug in the firmware, f.e.

 

agree with all the points.

 

possible due to the unreliable indilinx controller, but the new C300 controller's reliability is still unknown.

 

hey, did anyone else get the email that Storage Review.com is being re-launched? Could be very exciting, and you know it would be SSD friendly

 

Storagereview.com? ah, maybe for a while but what will the members do while waiting for new tec?

the C300 looks quite impressive, we'll nee dto wait and see the reliability numbers however.

 

this one?
http://forums.storagereview.net/index.php?showforum=15

 

as I though pretty empty.

 

Here is my score, looks a bit anemic in the 4K 64 yes?

 

wait till they move our threads over to it
it would be cool if it would be one forum, sort of. mixing and matching threads according to f.e. tags. if it's about notebooks or desktops or ssds or what ever.

i like that they have dedicated pages for reviews, though

yes. and your latency is much too high, too.

same we do here: talk crap

quite impressive, yes. groundbreaking? no. compared to the intel it's mostly evolutionary gains. and i don't like the fact that it gets those gains by compressing. how fast, then, would it be at compressed data? answer: slower, and about in line with the intel, then..

 

Yeah, it will be another place to talk crap, awesome! My above post is my first time using AS benchmarks. I may hvae been surfing while it was testing, let's hope that is it.

Where is says Intelide and 337365 - BAD does that tell me anything? thanks much for the help. Dave

 

That tells you you are using an intel IDE driver - i.e. no AHCI.

The bad - I assume the file is bad for some reason... but I have no clue why...

 

Yesterday night I installed the Intel G2 80GB to my desktop. First, I wanted to update the firmware, so I popped in the CD that I created and used on my Mac, which has the 160GB G2, and it didn't work. It gave some "bad partition, etc" error. I proceeded with the installation of Vista before using the Windows 7 upgrade DVD. After the install I tried the firmware update CD, and it failed again.

I needed to upgrade the HD in my wife's MBP, so I removed the HDD and put the SSD there; I upgraded the firmware on the Mac. Then, I put the SSD back to the desktop and installed Windows 7 Pro. Now, all the HDDs in the desktop became storage

I didn't have too much time to spend on installing programs, etc (it was around 5:00AM already).

Any idea why I wasn't able to boot the firmware updater? Did I miss something in BIOS settings? Was that a compatibility issue of some sort?

Thanks!

 

The bad is referring to alignment. Here is a way to switch to AHCI from IDE after installation. http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=474785&postcount=46

here is a guide on how to change alignment without reinstalling Windows.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/

 

Awesome new technology from Lenovo - RapidDrive (automated HDD-SSD hybrid system):
http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=384

Sounds neat.

 

Toshibadirect has the Intel x25m 160gb g2 for $475.99 ships in 1-2 days
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/adet.to?poid=450026

 

Here is an Intel SSD curiosity on a 160GB G2 on Vista...

No Trim for about 50GB of host writes:


No Trim for about 100GB of host writes:


Without Trim my write speeds go down (expected) but my read speeds go up?...

 

Have you tried using a USB stick to boot?

 

Thanks all. I'll have a look and see what I am going to do. May be time for the full re-install of Win 7 64 bit!

 

Do you guys think it's worth getting two X18-m 160GB G1 drives for $550 from HP, and selling them on eBay for profit? How much do you think I could make?

 

Subtracting paypal fee, ebay fee, and shipping fee (if you offer free shipping)? Absolutely nothing.

 

Thanks for the info. Do you think I could sell one of them for at least $300?

 

I haven't... After your post, I found some instuctions. I guess I'll have to try that with the next firmware upgrade. Thanks!

 

What difference will it make if he says "yes" or "no"? You should take a look at the completed items, current auctions, etc to get an idea for a "market value".

 

I have and can't find any completed listed for the X18-m 160GB. I see that the 80GB goes for around $199, so I assume that the 160GB must be at least $300, right? Just trying to get a feel for it here.

Edit: NM, I'm getting the HDD caddy separate and install my own G2 80GBs instead.

 

Sorry, my bad, I mistakenly thought that you're trying to sell 80GB version. You can get at least $350 each for the 160GB version (that's for gen 1, you can make $450 each for gen 2), so subtracting all the fees you should make at least $100. Not a killer but profit is profit.

 

Intel X25-M G2 Postville 320GB, 2.5", SATA II (SSDSA2MH320G2C1)
http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/a444071.html

 

Nice.

Only the pricing is excessive at the moment... 1000€... minimum...

 

looks started from 100 euro less:
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http://www.computerbase.de/preisvergleich/?phist=444071

 

It looks like the 320 doesn't have a write speed boost over the 160 like the 160 has over the 80.

 

lets wait and see benchmarks once someone bought one..

 

Bet it will, even if it takes a firmware update first.

Edit: It's also important to remember that the specs/benchmarks were all over the place when the G2's were originally announced as well.

Plus, aren't the 320GBs supposed to be using the new controller? Or is that delayed now?