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    SSD's; The Myth Exposed.

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by tilleroftheearth, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. surfasb

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    Another one of the 1% convinced!!!
     
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    Just to the Op, but I as sure someone has mentioned it.

    Converting RAW to JPEG is very CPU intensive - so if your CPU is running under full load there is no difference.
    Converting from PSD to JPEG isn't that CPU taxing though.

    And I recently got a SSD :) everything is much faster so far.
     
  3. tilleroftheearth

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    Thanks, I realize that, but the CPU load jumps from 57% to 100% and with 7GB of RAW data to read in, I thought the SSD might make a difference (since read speed is its specialty).
     
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    True, it does jump.

    I think that while its low the file is read into the RAM/written to the disc and when its high it's actually converted.
    However:
    You're reading for small files does increase with a SSD, but just not that much - and then you get faster and slower ones.

    Something where you should notice a difference is doing something temp file intensive in Photoshop. (large panorma? they can offer stunning detail :))

    Also some people will prefer a faster startup time/faster application load time.

    The next thing is:
    There is no simple way to measure productivity.

    And speaking of speeds - this is my Intel SSD:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=169759&page=85
     
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    I know, I have to make a more decisive test for an SSD - I am working on one that also incorporates how I actually use my stuff (and is reproducible) - just to be ready for a G2 if and when one becomes available around here - Congrats on yours, BTW!

    Yes, productivity is difficult to define for everyone, so I just choose what I might consider productive. Benchmarks lie and in the end, the only thing that really matters to me is that its faster than what I had. As long as I can afford it (and it is faster overall with no downsides), then the benchmarks don't matter.

    A realworld example of this is the Scorpio Blue vs. Seagate 7200.4's. Technically, the Seagate should spank the Blue, yet, in the real world...
     
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    Thanks :)

    With your Photo editing you'd possibly be better off with a quadcore.

    I suspect it may have been an unlucky brand choice too.

    On the Intel drive - so far I've only installed all my stuff, but that was fast :)
    I've not yet been using it - but opening prorammes instantenously is nice.

    Definitely consider them - but keep a sharp eye out on what bottlenecks any process.

    Another thing that springs to mind - extracting a zip, rar etc. - if you write and extract simultaneously it will always be slow.
    Ideally you extract to RAM and write then or extract from RAM to the HDD/SDD - because else, 2 opposite things at the same time don't work,

    Good luck with your next purchase and tests :)
     
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    Thanks for your suggestion, but I'm vary of drvier upgrades on my Vaio.
    (After the Intel X3100 driver was trying to fry the X3100 in mine...)

    I wonder if I nee them as I'm close to the max speeds anyway - which is a nice surprise.
    I'm getting about 220 to close to 230MB sequential read - and close to 100MB write speeds... I'll have to see.
    But thanks :)
     
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    Well, of course it's up to you, but what these new drivers do is promise to keep your drive working like it is now (instead of getting slower over time and it will slow down according to Anandtech).

    Just want to add that I've always installed Intel Matrix Storage Manager on any motherboard that supports it and the system has always been better, overall.

    When I installed these drivers on my desktop system, my four Raptor's crazed cacophony transformed into a symphony of productivity (it feels like they are at least twice as quiet - better optimized/implemented NCQ?) and this is on a Vista x64 installation - not Win 7 yet.

    If you do decide to try these (you can always uninstall them and revert back to the drivers you're using now), please remember to do a before and after test of some sort to see if they are worthwhile for you.
     
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    you have a dualcore, right? as long as it only has one thread to process, it will be at around 50%. if it can do work in parallel, at 100%.

    so it's essentially all the time cpu bound.

    yes, as all you do is jacking people's characters for not conforming :)

    anyways :) there are MUCH worse forums out there. here we're still at some level of trying to find out new knowledge on both sides, not? (well, at least i try to learn).

    just in case: he has windows vista, so he will not have trim anyways (and the manual trim tool from intel is currently offline).

    hm.. have to try to those drivers myself now :) (but i would prefer to have a link to the direct on intel page version (and the download is sloooooooooooooooow))

    you have 4 raptors?? :)
     
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    Yeah, I understand the dual core 50% dilemma, but except for when it hits 100%, neither one is maxing out - so it should have some breathing room, right?

    Actually, one VRaptor 300GB, one 150GB Raptor and two 74GB Raptors. Along with 4 TB drives (F1's) for data storage these are my workhorses!

    On my desktop system, with Vista x64, these new drivers have made a huge impact - in the next few weeks I'll be able to change to Win 7 x64 and hope to see even more improvements.

    Yes, very slow DL (half an hour for me).
     
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    no. vista/win7 automatically spread a single cpu task to the individual cores sometimes, so you should see both at around 50%. might be to have both your cores staying more cool, haven't yet found out when it does it that way, when not.


    i stopped the download for the obvious, in the other ssd stated, reason.. (and because it's slow).

    well, you come from some workhorse-beasts to ssds. so ssds surely have it harder to impress :) i came from mostly laptop-sucky-4200rpm drives, raptors where no option ever.

    then again, just taking those raptors out, replacing them with something tiny, cool, silent, non vibraring and still having actually better performance, that is something. if you finally get an ssd to deliver as it should :)
     
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    Oh ya - Silence! That's what I'm thinking of each time my desktop needs to access something on one of its eight hard drives! SSD's promise soooo much... ;)
     
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