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    SSD: is this video for real?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by useroflaptops, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. useroflaptops

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    Thats an old video so they should be faster now.

    I get around 40-60 seconds to boot with Vista with a HDD so 30 seconds is about right.
     
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    i boot in 7 seconds in windows 7

    in vista its like 10-12
     
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    It's just these sort of videos that make me want an SSD :rolleyes:
     
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    no way you boot in 12 seconds?

    but looking at your sig im assuming you have the m17x and is a beast, but seriously thats pretty fast.

    the one ive used wasnt that much faster than any othe rlaptop
     
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    i use a ocz vertex

    220 mb read

    i have vista optimized for SSd as well
     
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    yea the one in the video though is a samsung and is also pretty fast

    how do you optimize for SSD in vista?
     
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    Nice, SSD's are evolving really fast now.
     
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    nice info does the tweak work for samsungs

    also realistically how much difference does it make for ssd without this tweak and with
     
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    It should work for every Solid-State Drive out there.
     
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    There was a demo of several Samsung drives which was able to copy a DVD faster than it drops to the ground. :D

    --
     
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    Now that is speed, incredible.
     
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    would have to be SSD to SSD
     
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    I'm a new owner of OCZ Vertex.
    My boot time is: 10-15 sec,
    Shutdown: Some seconds.

    Super fast defrag, Wipe ect, ect!

    This thing also helps to keep my temps down. :p
    My idle GPU temp has gone down to 44C with 185.85 DOX. With same driver and WD Black Scorpio 320GB 7200 RPM it was 52-53C.
    Max is down to 82C wich was 87C :p :)
    I love it !
     
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    The OCZ Vertex sounds better by the minute, I would put 6 SSD's into my new desktop computer if only there was no degradation over time, since I am going to use the hard drives heavily.
     
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    6 is overkill. Just buy 2x 250GB to os and 2x500GB when they comes out :D
    You minimize the risk to lose all data, if one of the drives fail :rolleyes: ;) :)
     
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    Hehe, I am going to store a lot of data into the hard drives, 12 TB of Hard Drive Space is not overkill at all to me, I know that I will really need it later on.

    Thanks for the suggestion, though, I was thinking about buying a speedier 10,000 RPM hard drive for the OS, but at the end, the RAID'd 6 Drives would outperform the single 10,000 RPM single hard drive.
     
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  22. tuηay

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    haha, SSD drives kill 10,000 RPM :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
    Watch in HD :cool:
     
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    Yeah, and it would also cost you much, much, more :rolleyes:
     
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    Three Words:

    In-Credi-Ble.

    Agreed, my wallet would have hurt for much longer than it already will...
     
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    hmm after learning about the reliability issue of SSD i'm wondering if its such a good idea anymore for one to be defragging a SSD drive
     
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    they tell you not to .....
     
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    so you shouldnt be formatting your computer either then right cause thats like shaving more life off the SSD. or uninstalling things etc
     
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    Pretty much, SSD Technology is still too immature for my liking.
     
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    I see it now, It has been a little bit wrong. With defrag I mean;

    [​IMG]
     
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    Well. with a little optimization, boot process can be pretty fast as well.

    Even my netboo can boot under 20 seconds with hdd, that's before I used eboostr3 to accelerate my boot process. In my case, the cpu is the bottleneck. Having a fast SSD wouldn't matter because the netbook can't make use of extra throughput.
     
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  31. tuηay

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    I have a boot-up between 8-12 seconds, If we not count the BIOS.
     
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    LOL.. bios (post) is part of the boot process.
     
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    Not on Qosmio ;) :D :)
     
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    How long does it take to bootup including the bios post?
     
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    Not sure but it atleast takes 5-7 sec extra... :D
    I can't reboot now becouse I play GTA IV MP, don't think my friends is gonna be happy :rolleyes:. But I can after and post results if you want :p

    EDIT:
    18 Sec from I have pressed Power botton and bios is past.
    13 Sec for Windows Vista HomePremium X64 SP2 is boot-Up.
    32 Sec before my lappy is usable...
     
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    Whatever SSD was used in that Video was weak. Not even twice as fast as a ghetto 60gb HDD.
     
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    degradation is overhyped right now. yes, it will get slower, but no, it won't lose it's main feature: hell fast access times.

    the result: your raid of disks will still max out your raid controller easily, even while they are degraded..

    and once it IS an issue, you can fix it as needed for another some months (or it gets completely fixed by firmware till then, dunno the current state of the vertex)
     
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    ok that 32 sec's is crazy

    im fully usable on win 7 by 10 sec...not includeing bios boot
     
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  39. tuηay

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    Read my post again, I'm also fully usable in 13 seconds. And I use Vista x64
     
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    dang 18 sec's for your bios :eek:

    i thought that was a full boot lol....

    n i use vista and win 7 ... 10-12 on vista not includeing bios... my bios is only 5 sec
     
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  41. tuηay

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    It is a little bit long, yes :(
     
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    LOL.. that's crazy. Bios takes 1-2 seconds for me depending on how much accessories I attach to the netbook.

    18+13+32=63 seconds. 63s is pretty slow, even for a laptop with HDD.
     
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  43. tuηay

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    No, 32 sec is all include ready to use...
     
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    Still..

    My netbook takes 20 seconds to bootup from the point I press the on button to the point where everything is loaded and ready to use. My netbook doesn't even have SSD either but SSD won't have any advantages in my case since HDD is already too fast for the CPU.
     
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  45. tuηay

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    Yes, but I don't count BIOS part :D :cool:
     
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    A hardware ramdisc is faster at loading files. Search for the gigabyte I-RAM. It is much faster at loading. Unfortunately they have a very low capacity - storage wise

    K-TRON
     
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    iRam is old now. I believe there's one that use DDR2 ram which offers twice the throughtput and couple times more capacity than the IRam. I forgot the exact name of the product though.
     
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    I didin't fully got it but I have DDR3 :D

    And forgot to say;
    I have Prefetcher and Superfetch disabled...
     
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