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    SSD-Z Beta available

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Cloudfire, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    For those familiar with GPU-Z and CPU-Z, now there is a similar program that can find out most about your SSD. Very nifty program. Shows controller type, NAND type, manufacture process, temperature and everything. It even have a benchmark (but not stable yet) :vbthumbsup:

    Download it here:
    http://aezay.dk/aezay/ssdz/


    Here is my Kingston SV300 120GB from my coding computer
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    Cloudfire, Mar 19, 2015
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  2. Dialup David

    Dialup David Notebook Consultant

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    Neat program :)

    [​IMG]
     
    Dialup David, Mar 19, 2015
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  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Mohahaha, I have 19nm NAND. That 850 Evo is still at 40nm :p

    Nevermind the performance difference though... :mad:
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 19, 2015
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  4. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Nice program, unfortunately no RAID support (yet):

    [​IMG]
     
    t456, Mar 20, 2015
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  5. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    HAHAHA my Extreme II Trolls ALL... 19mm MLC NAND AND PERFORMANCE!!! SSD.png
     
    TomJGX, Mar 20, 2015
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  6. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    uhm, you guys do know that 40nm nand and bigger is SUPERIOR to all smaller geometry's, right?
     
    tilleroftheearth, Mar 20, 2015
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  7. Bullrun

    Bullrun Notebook Deity

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    Yes. The NAND itself, (SLC, MLC) definitely. But should we add "done right"? ;)


    EDIT: It's likely the reason for the 850 Pro's high price tag.
     
    Bullrun, Mar 20, 2015
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    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    The software in question identifies my SLC drive (Intel X-25E) as having MLC cells...:vbeek:

    On my Micron SSD it doesn't specify the manufacturer, type of cells used (SLC) or controller...so yeah, work in progress sounds about right, and not just for the benchmark section.
     
    ajkula66, Mar 20, 2015
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    Yes, we should add 'done right', definitely.

    The high price tag of the 850 Pro has nothing to do with quality or superiority in real world performance.

    Where are the marketing people to explain...
     
    tilleroftheearth, Mar 20, 2015
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  10. Bullrun

    Bullrun Notebook Deity

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    Agreed, not higher price based on performance. But the cost of 40nm NAND yields compared to 19nm yields from NAND wafers (more expensive to produce 40nm).
     
    Bullrun, Mar 20, 2015
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  11. tilleroftheearth

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    But you're not doing your comparison correctly.

    It is V-Nand (32 layer nand at 40nm) vs. flat 19nm nand you should be comparing.

    It is not more expensive. It is cheaper.

    (Need proof? Samsung would rather die than increase costs needlessly. If the 19nm nand was less expensive, guess what the 850 Pro would have inside?).
     
    tilleroftheearth, Mar 20, 2015
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  12. Bullrun

    Bullrun Notebook Deity

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    Hmmm, OK. I didn't look at the production costs of V-NAND. I went straight to 40nm vs 19nm planar.
     
    Bullrun, Mar 21, 2015
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  13. baii

    baii Sone

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    I have a feeling this just show info grabbed on the web instead of really "reading" the SSD, which make it pointless.

    Unlike CPU-z or GPU-z, which valuable info is actually read off the component. Nice effort I guess.
     
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    baii, Mar 22, 2015
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  14. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

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    It got all 3 of my drives all correct as far as I know, anyway it's beta so problems are expected.
    Some type of data base is required to decode manufacturers codes etc., even for CPU and GPU, so maybe that's what OP meant, but either way if it's maintained and updated by the author, it could be nice addition to cpu-z and gpu-z, which btw had their own errors too, so I give it thumbs up.
    If I may make a suggestion, I wish the author concentrated on making some sense out of smart data mumble-jumble, some of it manufacturer specific. For example why my SSD under RAW READ ERROR RATE one day shows 7 digit long number and next day all zeros. I have no idea what it means, did I really had millions of read errors one day and zero next?
     
    pete962, Mar 25, 2015
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