SSHD 24GB or 8GB

hello to everyone!
i want to buy a new laptop and i can't decide between two laptops, they are almost the same price. one with 1tb and 8 gb SSHD, intel i5 and geforce 940M, and the second one is with 1tb and 24 gb SSHD intel i5 and geforce 920M. so the first is a little better in graphics.
so does any one has an idea how the 24GB compares with the 8GB?
and anther question:can i force a program inside the SSHD? .

 

@jenia12 I strongly suggest getting the one with 940M. SSHD is something you can always replace, while the GPU - not in those.

SSHD uses SSD as a cache. While it is much better than HDD when used as a system drive, but not good enough to compete with SSDs. Choosing between SSHDs is the last thing one should do; if you care about performance, replace with / add an SSD yourself, after purchase, and be done with it.

 

thx!!! but for argument sake how they comapre?

 

More cache theoretically means better performance with that type of arrangement. So the one with 24GB SSD cache would be able to speed up 3x the amount of regularly-accessed information in comparison to the one with 8GB SSD cache.

All SSHD arrangements take some time to identify which data is placed in cache (and hence runs faster) and which data is not, and you're only likely to see noticeable benefits over a standard hard drive if your computing activity is very consistent (so most of your activity is cached on the SSD). New or different activity is going to load from the hard drive, so you won't see any benefit compared to a standard hard drive.

I agree with Starlight that you'd be better off buying the system with better graphics and replacing the SSHD with a full SSD if you want better performance. But of the 2 SSHDs you're looking at, the one with 24GB SSD cache is likely to be faster.

To answer your second question: no, you cannot select what goes on the SSD in such systems. But if you have enough spare unused memory in your computer, you can create a RAMdisk to run select programs entirely in RAM (which is faster than other storage types).

 

thx!!!!! that was very helpfull!

 

SSHD's should be outlawed in 2016...

See:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/zotac-premium-edition-ssd,4397.html


Caching is just a marketing trap to confuse buyers of what is important and has little real world performance impact - even if you can 'feel' the cache working in certain (unimportant) metrics... Even Anand Lal Shimpi stated back a few years ago that anything less than an 256GB SSD for caching was less than satisfying. Yeah. Outdated and stillborn technology since the day it was introduced.

As Starlight5 has indicated; buy the best/newest platform with the best/highest performing components (O/S+CPU+RAM (capacity) and GPU) you can. These cannot be replaced easily nor cheaply.

To take advantage of all the capabilities of the newest hardware; Windows 10 Pro highly recommended.

The processor should be at least an i5 quad core or higher (i7 QC - not a 'u' series - highly recommended).

The RAM capacity should allow you to install at least 16GB RAM or more (and as soon as you can - buying it from a third party will save you $$$ too).

The GPU will depend on your budget and the games you play today and the types of games you expect to play tomorrow (you're on your own there; good luck).

Also pay attention to the WiFi solution inside too. You want at least an AC class 2:2 (two antenna, two streams) or higher. Intel 7260/7265 cards have been great for me with Win10x64Pro.

As you can see; the storage subsystem is last to be considered because it will affect your workflow the least.

Consider buying an external enclosure for the 1TB HDD/SSHD that comes with the system for ~$10 or so and use it as backup... and installing an SSD to maximize the storage subsystem performance in a meaningful way with benefits in system performance across the board (including having a much more robust (shockproof) mobile system that doesn't depend on spinning rust for it to work).

The above is worth saving a little longer for, if you can.

The end result will be a night and day difference with even a 64GB/128GB 'cache' module for an HDD...

Good luck.

 

WOW. that was very deatiled!! thanks for the help

 

I used to use a sandisk readyhcache 32GB cache drive, it marginally helped, so 8 is just funny.
SSD's are cheap enough that it shouldn't be an issue anymore, if you need more storage, carry a thumbstick or an external spinning drive for media.

 

SSHD is not a good investment IMHO. Granted it's cheaper than an SSD, but very little benefit over a traditional HDD at less cost.

 

Get the 940M, the 920M is junk... You can always change RAM + HDD later...

 

thx for everybody help. i decided i want to invest a little more for better performance and i need your help again. again there are two computers with exactly the same price:
http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=30007&store=eilat2
http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=29363&store=eilat2
plz help me choose!!
!

 

SSHD are a thing of the past. The prices of full SSDs are forecasted to drop significantly in near future. You will be easily able to replace it cheaply.

 

thx i got it. can you pls help me with my new dilemma (its the post above yours)

 

I would prefer the one with 960M GPU. But it depends upon your requirements. I suggest to use the form on http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/what-notebook-should-i-buy.16/
to get proper answer.

 

See:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=3176&cmp[]=3171

See:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2586&cmp[]=2632


Yeah, the GPU is ~20% faster, yet the CPU is ~38% faster... for the same price.

I would always buy the fastest CPU based (and otherwise equal...) platform. Sure, that 20% better GPU will get you, what? About 3 to 6 months longer use, depending on the actual game in question?

While that ~38% faster CPU will give you an i7 QC/8T based system worth keeping long after the i5 QC/4T based system was in the garbage bin (for high end tasks).

If all you're doing is gaming, the i7 will still give you better performance (with an equal GPU, of course). If you're doing anything approaching workstation like 'productivity' (especially for work/school purposes), the i5 will be a waste of $$$$ for very little real world added gaming prowess.

Your call, of course. But buying a platform without maxed out CPU (for your budget) and maxed out RAM (i.e. 'capacity' - and 16GB is bare minimum for 2016 forward - depending on the platform you buy...) is like buying an 2001 Pontiac Firebird and being snobbish to Ferrari owners.

The GPU, like all secondary components in a modern platform, depends on the CPU+RAM combo to drive it to it's potential. An i5 falls well short...


Good luck.

 

Wow thanks!

 

Definitely the 2nd option, Better GPU and an SSD at the same price

Unless you need a optical drive which is no big deal since you can easily buy an external one

Always go with the better GPU!

 

An 128GB SSD is not a benefit. It is a curse.

 

True, but it still can help him to fund a bigger one if he wants to after selling it

 

Better to just save a little longer for a decent one in the first place. Buying low 'quality', selling cheap and buying something worth having is always more expensive.

The notion of 'instant gratification' is not only expensive, but also not what you should be hoping for...

There is a reason things cost more than similar products. And sometimes, it's worth more than the price difference between them.