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    SU2300 vs. U7600

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by meanstreet, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Intel® Core™2 Solo Processor ULV SU3500 (3M Cache, 1.40 GHz, 800 MHz FSB)

    vs.

    Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor U7600 (2M Cache, 1.20 GHz, 533 MHz FSB)


    Which is better? It seems rational to say that the SU3500 is faster, but the u7600 has 2 cores.
     
  2. computerstriker

    computerstriker Notebook Evangelist

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    depends on what you want.
    if you want performance it's the u7600
    if you want battery life it's the su3500
     
  3. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the response, I think you answered my question!
     
  4. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The U7600 will offer better performance for multitasking. What are you planning to do with the notebook? What is a typical workload for you?
     
  5. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    I will be doing multitasking. I also want to be able to open up Photoshop CS4 or Illustrator CS4 and do minor editing. I also want to be able to play 1080p MKV movies too.

    The laptop with the U7600 will have 2gb of ram, and the SU3500 will have 3gb of ram.
     
  6. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    if u want to use photoshop , get a more powerful rig... one with the new CULV core i5/7 processors and 4GB ram... it will be very slow and either one of these 2 laptops...
     
  7. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    A single core SU3500 running at 1.4GHz is not going to perform as well as a dual core U7600 running at 1.2GHz. Regardless of if you multi-task or not.
     
  8. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Have you owned a Dell D430 before with U7600 and 2gb of ram?
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The Dell D430's bottleneck will be it's 1.8" ZIF PATA HDD. Unless intending to replace it with a Runcore ProIV ZIF SSD, I'd go the SU3500 Acer instead with a 2.5' sata HDD. Or otherwise look for a 2510P (with a U7600) which has many mod possibilities (see sig).
     
  10. Jayayess1190

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    :confused: You mean SU3500.
     
  11. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Have you read my review of it? Granted it was the U7700 processor, but the U7600 is within striking distance in terms of performance.

    Look at the title of the thread.
     
  12. Jlbrightbill

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    Look at the first post of the thread.

    There's zero need to be condescending, especially when neither of you are wrong.
     
  13. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Yes I read it, thanks! Do you still have that laptop? Does it open up Photoshop CS4 or Illustrator CS4 and can do minor editing. Also is it able to play 1080p MKV movies too?


    Sorry about the inconsistency, I should of been refering to SU3500 only, not SU2300.
     
  14. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I wasn't trying to be a pain, I'm just stating how I screwed that one up.

    Sad thing is that I traded my D430 for an E6400 then a E4300. I don't have it anymore :(.

    It wouldn't have a problem running Photoshop or Illustrator, though I would bet that it would be slow for big edits. 1080p video...it might be able to do that. Might.

    Haha...that's cool. I think the SU3500 is a bit faster than the SU2300, but it still will not stack up against a dual core.
     
  15. eyclai

    eyclai Notebook Enthusiast

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    The D430 *absolutely* cannot play 1080p video out of the box, unless it's MPEG2 (free to air digital TV "DVB-T" used in Australia is one example, but it's not internet video).

    Just about any HD video you can download would be WMV or MP4. MKV as I understand it has MP4 video stream plus other stream(s) such as subtitles. The D430 cannot handle that. I know because I have one.

    I have spent quite a few hours researching the subject of high definition (720 and 1080) video playback on various integrated and discrete graphics cards. The result would be a 1000+ words post. The basic conclusion is it is *possible* to play 1080p on most laptop from 2006 onwards (incl. D430), but the users may need to invest on some accessory, and also need to know exactly what he/she is doing on codecs and video hardware acceleration. Once you figure that out it's not hard.

    If other people are interested I am happy to type it up. I am afraid that it will be too technical and boring to read though.
     
  16. hki

    hki Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am sure there are enough people who are interested. If you have time to make the post it would be very much appreciated. Maybe a separate topic on it would be good idea though.
     
  17. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Thanks! That’s the info I been looking for. I would actually be very interested in reading your article if you wrote it out, and I am pretty sure lots of people would be interested too.

    So if anyone is wondering why I created this thread, I am planning to buy a smaller laptop (<12” ;) as an secondary laptop for on the go and to use as an HTPC that have the following:

    - Do basic editing with Photoshop CS4 and Illustrator CS4.
    - Play with 1080p MKV files. (with installing codec and other software)
    - HDMI or DVI output.
    - Weighs around 3.0 lbs - 4.5 lbs


    So it came down to these two:
    - Acer 1410 (SU3500, 3GB ram, Intel GMA 4500HD, HDMI)
    Pros: 2.5 SATA, HDMI, SPDIF, better battery, possible CPU upgrade options?, most portable
    Cons: Feels cheap, no docking station, SU3500 might be too weak

    - Dell D430 (U7600, 2GB ram, Intel 945GMS, DVI with docking station)
    Pros: Docking station, better build quality, PC card input
    Cons: 1.8 4200 rpm hard drive, 2GB max ram


    I do currently have a Dell M1210 (T7200 2.0ghz, 2.5 gb ram, 64 mb Go Geforce), it performs really well. But it here are some things that I don’t like about it:
    - No HDMI or DVI docking
    - Heavy (<4.5lbs with 9 cell)
    - Kind of noisy and heats up fast

    I think I might just consider keeping the Dell M1210 and buying one of these http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10114&cs_id=1011404&p_id=4629&seq=1&format=2 and calling it a day. (BTW: if anybody is wondering my HDTV doesn't have VGA)
     
  18. eyclai

    eyclai Notebook Enthusiast

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    Meanstreet, if you can hold off the purchase decision for a few days, I think I can give you a better recommendation instead of a one line answer (although if you insist, I'd say neither, and if you point a gun to my head, I'd say the Acer. The Dell is really really old by now).

    I wonder on which forum I should stick my post to?
     
  19. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    I am in no rush to buy another laptop. I would suggest the "Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades" section.
     
  20. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    For the stuff u need to do , ur gonna need a more powerful laptop... Your budget has to be minimum of $800...
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Since you were looking at a docked DVI solution, have you considered a US$200 HD5670 DIY VIDock? Your M1210 has an expresscard slot, so can add it. Would give Displayport/HDMI and accelerated graphics. Could be cheaper with a lower end video card eg: HD4350 would be ~US$140.

    Otherwise, I'd suggest going a SU2300 Acer 1410 over the SU3500 version:
    US$450 11.6" Acer 1410 SU2300-1.2 2GB 250GB W7HP
     
  22. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Thats a cool project you worked on! But realistically, this is just a secondary laptop that I don't expect to spend much time and money on. The VGA-HDMI converter seems to make the most sense financially (it's only $40).

    I will wait for eyclai 's write up. But more likely it like I will be keeping my M1210 till I find an refurbished Acer 1410 SU3500 on sale , the lowest I have seen it was $369.99.
     
  23. meanstreet

    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    So I ended buying a new Acer 1410 (SU3500, 3GB ram, 250gb hd, Intel GMA 4500HD) for a very good price! I am quite impressed with it, very portable and light. The battery life is awesome, 9 hours! It plays 1080p mkv files pretty well with installing codecs and tweaking settings. It was kind of a hassle but it was worth it. There is quite a large 1410 online community too. I installed Adobe CS4, it works fine for basic editing without any lag. I would no suggest using some of advance features and effects though because it lags and it’s slow. But it does what I need if I am on the road, I have another laptop at home to do all of the more CPU intensive work.

    Thanks for all of the replies! If anybody is in the same situation as me, I would be more than happy to answer questions too.