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    Safe P7350 Temperatures?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Pluberus, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. Pluberus

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    What are safe temperatures for the 2.00 GHz dual core P7350 processors?

    I'm wondering if I should reapply the paste (perhaps I did it wrong), because I've currently maxed at 73C with a cooler on my G51vx doing routine tasks (stabilizes in around 67C - this is when playing low req games and browsing the web). I hit 70C with Orthos after a minute and a half. :( Should I be worried?

    EDIT:
    Ok. Undervolted it with RMClock to 1.125V and with ORTHOS stress testing it (9 minutes so far), it seems to have stabilized at 69C.

    That is much better than hitting 70C+ after 2 minutes. :D
     
  2. kosti

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    What are you using to monitor temps? Temps seem a bit high. That CPU has a thermal threshold of only 90C.
     
  3. Pluberus

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    Orthos to test and HWMonitor to check temps.

    What can I do to lower the temps? Do I add more paste (more cooling?) or less (thin layer)? Sorry, sorta confused.

    Played Bad Company 2 for about 10 minutes on lowest settings and hit CPU temp of 75C.

    And by thermal threshold what do you mean? It will die at the temp?

    EDIT:
    Removed paste and added a thin layer again, this time Orthos caused it to hit 67C but after 2 minutes. That was right after a cold boot so not sure how accurate it is. Will try again in a moment.

    EDIT2: Ran it for another 3 minutes about 1 minute after the first Orthos run (after my repaste), and it hit 71 at about the 3 minute mark. Was steady at 69C from minute 2 to 3. My CPU has now dropped to 48C just browsing the web.
    -Now I'm going to put on the backplate and my cooler and play games a bit more and see what temps are this time.
    -Note that I still haven't modded my backplate, just redid the paste and added copper heatsinks.

    What temps should I be shooting for after how long of an Orthos test?
     
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    By thermal threshold I mean the temp that it can safely reach before it starts throttling or shuts itself down to avoid damage. I would run Orthos or Prime95 for a longer period of time and see how hot it actually gets. It may just be normal. Also, you may want to try coretemp and hwinfo32 and see what readings those give you.
     
  5. Pluberus

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    How long should I run it? 5 minutes? 10? I'll try for 5 with HWMonitor and Core Temp on until I hear back from you. :D

    Thanks again!

    EDIT:
    Installed Core Temp and I'm getting a temp reading of 44/45 when HWMonitor says 54/55. HWINfo doesn't work (I'm on 64Bit W7). RealTemp is saying 43/44. o_o Starting to run Orthos now.

    EDIT2:
    Ok, after 6 minutes of Orthos these are the reported CPU temps:
    HWMonitor: 79C
    RealTemp: 67C
    CoreTemp: 69C

    I think HWMonitor is buggy. I just ran Orthos for another minute to see what SpeedFan would tell me and it said 67C while HWMonitor said 74C.
     
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    It is easy enough to look the official specs on ark.intel.com.

    Why guess?
     
  7. Pluberus

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    I meant that hwinfo32 wouldn't run. I tried. :(

    What temperature should be getting worried at? 69C at 5 minutes of Orthos is bad news or tolerable?

    Also, do you think that HWMonitor is bugged? The other 3 programs had similar temps, while HWMonitor seemed to be 10C high every time.

    I'm just wondering if I should reapply the CPU paste again. Not sure if I should be putting a little bit (thin layer), or alot (more cooling?) I've been playing a game that has my CPU at 75%-100% for 30 minutes now and Core Temp maxed at 69C (avg 64/65) while HWMonitor maxed at 77C (avg 73/74).
     
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    I would leave it alone...it's fine.
     
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    I get freaked out about temps too. There are other things to consider as well, such as room temperature. If hwmonitor is inaccurate, and it looks like it is, then your temps are good man.
     
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    Sounds good! I'll keep an eye out on the temps just to be safe.

    +Rep for all your help. :D
     
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    Thank You Sir :)
     
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    Don't forget that since the TJ_Max of your processor is only 90 degrees C instead of 100, you need to go into the hwmonitorw.ini file and change the CPU_0_TJMAX attribute appropriately.
     
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    This ..

    HWMonitor is not properly configured to automatically compensate the temperature readings for the TJ_Max of P7350 cpu.
    I'd just recommend you use RealTemp from now on since it will give you temp readouts from both the gpu and cpu (the only thing it won't show is the HDD temp, but those are not usually something to be concerned about)
     
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    Sorry about that, some of the OEM/embedded CPUs need to be researched at processorfinder.intel.com
     
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    Ok. Undervolted it with RMClock to 1.125V and with ORTHOS stress testing it (9 minutes so far), it seems to have stabilized at 69C.

    That is much better than hitting 70C+ after 2 minutes. :D
     
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    My P7450 would get to 79C, then I put Antec Formula 5 thermal paste on it. And it dropped temps by 8C.
     
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    yup that is good.. my T9400 is runnning at 1.125V at about 40-50C idle and 70-80C load which is way good..
     
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    It's tolerable
     
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    hi everyone, new here, i registered because i felt i might offer some a good perspective on the issue.

    i have a G51VX. i got it at best buy august of 09. i haven't changed the thermal paste (although i do plan to do it soon), but i have modded my backplate.

    [​IMG]

    i used a 3 inch hole saw to make the hole itself (i removed the silver ring to save it from damage, but it cracked on removal). i then used the grate off of a old power supply, i cut it off with tin snips and cut a few little strips of metal off another part of the power supply casing. i used jb weld to attach the straight, thin pieces to the round part, and sprayed it all with some flat black paint.

    i also (at a later time, and likely under the influence of some narcotic or another) fabricated a USB-powered, card board, cooling station.

    [​IMG]

    i made it with basic materials:
    1 old power supply fan
    1 old pentium 2 cpu fan
    1 old random case fan
    electrical tape
    box cutter
    spare usb cord
    some wire strippers would've been nice, but i think i used a pocket knife



    ******
    All that bull aside, here's my temps according to CoreTemp (HWinfo always shows 10C higher on mine too)

    38-40C for both cores

    75-80C for video

    both of those are under load (BC2 on medium settings with shadows set to low, 4xAA 4xAF)

    the video will usually idle cooler at desktop, but it will creep up to around 75C before the fans kick back in and drop it back to high 60's.

    get some air and blow out your exhaust on the left side. with my mod it blows out the hole in the backplate, but if yours is stock you might want to remove it.

    for god's sake don't do it while the laptop is on.
    (sorry just had to say it)

    hope this can give you a good guideline.