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    Samsung 840 EVO or Crucial MX100?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by nhantre, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. nhantre

    nhantre Notebook Geek

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    Which should I get for my Alienware 17? Any other suggestions are welcome too. I'm looking for a 500GB SSD



    Alienware 17 specs:

    i7 4710MQ
    8GB RAM
    1TB HDD
    860M 2GB
     
    nhantre, Dec 26, 2014
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    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    Mx100. Ten char


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    alexhawker, Dec 26, 2014
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    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Agreed 1001%.
     
    ajkula66, Dec 26, 2014
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    MX100 all the way! Death to Samsung TLC junk!
     
    TomJGX, Dec 26, 2014
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    tareyza Notebook Consultant

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    10char10char
     
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    840 EVO!

    Just kidding. The MX100 has better NAND. Go for that instead.
     
    Jarhead, Dec 26, 2014
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    +1!

    Stay away from TLC crap! MLC FTW
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Dec 26, 2014
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    wolf_walker Notebook Enthusiast

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    850 EVO.
    I'm assuming you don't have mSATA or M.2 slots, if so I'd look there.

    I have two 840 EVO's and an MX100 500(ish)gb for a year or two, they are all fine drives.
    The Samsung software is a value add imo, especially with the Rapid Mode option.
    The TLC/MLC thing is quite overblown these days imo.
    Last time I looked the MX100 was a bit cheaper.
     
    wolf_walker, Jan 1, 2015
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    If you turn on CRAPID mode, you are not benchmarking your SSD anymore, you are benchmarking your RAM.

    Translate that intro real world performance and it means absolutely nothing.

    For example, test this.....

    Copy a huge 10GB + video file or whatever large file you want from your C: partition to another partition on another disk......

    you will notice that the Windows file copy progress finishes insanely fast.....the moment it finishes the copy, I want you to restart your system

    then check that file you copied, it would be corrupt, reason is, yes the file copy progress finished fast, but it didn't finish really, all it was doing is copying the file from your RAM cache (RAPID) onto the real disk.

    so it's just cheating + placebo effect

    And after you read this, you will never enable RAPID again.....it will actually make your performance worse not better

    A Closer look at the crappy CRAPID


    PS: I never enable RAPID on any of my 3 Samsung SSDs
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 1, 2015
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    wolf_walker Notebook Enthusiast

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    Read the updated 850 Pro results for current Rapid implementation. Frequently helps, very seldom hinders, and the hindering is minor.
    Samsung's 850 Pro solid-state drive reviewed - The Tech Report - Page 1


    I don't benchmark beyond initial eval, I just use. There is no perceptible negative impact currently, all modern SSD's are so fast I can't tell much difference between
    any I've had. Rapid might help, does not hinder, so I leave it on. This has worked well on two desktops and one laptop for almost two years now.
    One of them is in use 18 hours a day.
    Your mileage may vary.
     
    wolf_walker, Jan 1, 2015
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    djembe drum while you work

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    For the initial poster, I'd go with the Crucial MX100 for roughly the same reasons as everyone else: there was a (now fixed) issue that occurred with the TLC NAND in Samsung 840 EVOs that taints their reputation. However, the poster who suggested the 850 EVO has a good point. When used with the larger node processes employed with stacked or 3D NAND, TLC has no more risk than current planar MLC used with smaller nodes.
     
    djembe, Jan 1, 2015
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    The 850Evo is so expensive that he might as well go for the Sandisk Extreme Pro :)
     
    TomJGX, Jan 2, 2015
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    wolf_walker Notebook Enthusiast

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    I suspect it's the just-released hype price. I think I paid like $339 in early 13 for my 500gb 840 EVO, then $219 in late 14, $219 in mid-14 for an MX100, $199 for another last month.
    It'll come down.
     
    wolf_walker, Jan 2, 2015
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    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Probably, but if one is shopping for a drive *right now*, they have to compare the current prices...
     
    ajkula66, Jan 2, 2015
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    wolf_walker Notebook Enthusiast

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    No argument there, pro's only fifty bucks more than the evo I see too. I paid more for the first 840 evo than the 850 pro is selling for now.
    Yay progress...
     
    wolf_walker, Jan 3, 2015
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    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Should I go to my basement and start digging for a receipt for my first Intel X-25E? I'm certain that price I paid for it back then would blow everyone's mind nowadays...:D
     
    ajkula66, Jan 3, 2015
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    And for something only slightly newer, I could dig out my invoice for a 160GB Intel 320 :p
     
    Jarhead, Jan 3, 2015
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    wolf_walker Notebook Enthusiast

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    Pretty cool what you can get for so little as time passes, least with computers. It's like a consolation prize for getting older.
     
    wolf_walker, Jan 3, 2015
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    Funny you should mention that exact SSD. I picked up one (in the 1.8" format, though) for my upcoming X301 just a few days ago. NOS, unused.

    Likely for 1/5 or less for what you paid for it back in the day...and it's still a solid offering for a machine as old as X301, with firm SATA II cap...
     
    ajkula66, Jan 3, 2015
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