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    Samsung MLC SSD vs 7200RPM Harddrive

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by comp_user, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. comp_user

    comp_user Notebook Consultant

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    How would a Samsung MLC harddrive(the ones found in recent Lenovo's) match up with 7200RPM harddrives like Western Digital Black or Seagate 7200.3. I am assuming reads would be significantly faster but what about writes.
     
  2. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It would be significantly faster in every aspect of performance.
     
  3. Kamin_Majere

    Kamin_Majere =][= Ordo Hereticus

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    It would destroy it. Samsung might be the lowest spec'ed "good" SSD available, but it is still so far ahead of any 7200RPM drive that its sad
     
  4. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    That was not my experience. I see some say it's the best thing since sliced bread, but for me other than it booting faster and a few slower apps like iTunes or Photoshop opening a bit quicker, I couldn't tell much of a difference.
     
  5. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Aside from the obvious benchmarks, if you noticed it's booting faster and opening programs faster, how is that not a significant improvement?

    To put things into perspective, if most users upgrade their CPU, they wouldn't notice a difference in any day-to-day tasks. But ask users who stress out their current CPU, who run that same program with a more powerful CPU, and the difference would be clear.

    While not everyone really needs a SSD, the fact that you noticed a change in daily activities shows that there is a significant improvement in performance over HDDs.

    At this time though, if you're on a budget and require a lot of space, then it wouldn't be the recommended solution. But if you can afford the cost, there are many other benefits other than pure performance. For example, the Samsung is noted to increase battery life due to having a lower power consumption on average compared to HDDs. This also leads to less heat produced, less noise, etc.

    edit: OT but I can't seem to see ZaZ's or Kamin_Majere's name unless I highlight it. Does anyone else have this problem?
     
  6. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    :confused: The Samsung PB22-J is in the top group on performance. Although it is not the fastest, it is also quite economical on power.

    An SSD makes a computer feel much more responsive because of the ~1ms access time compared with 12 - 20ms for a HDD. Read and write speeds are usually about twice as fast, which is also significant id working with large blocks of data. Putting a Samsung PB22-J into my Dell E6400 pushed the PCMark05 score from ~4500 (with 500GB 5400rpm HDD) to ~6000 with SSD. It has also added at least 1/2 hour to the battery time.
    That's spooky!

    John
     
  7. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Are you all mods lol. I can't see any of the mod names. It IS Oct. 31st lol. Damn Halloween! I shouldn't have watched that scary movie lol.
     
  8. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Is five to 10 faster boot times and a few apps that open slower being a bit quicker worth a few hundred bucks and giving up four hundred plus GB of storage space? For me the answer is no. If you need the ultimate performance then maybe it's worth it. Like I said some people go gaga over SSDs, but for that kind of money expected something more tangible, which I did not get. That was my experience anyway.
     
  9. sniper_sung

    sniper_sung Notebook Evangelist

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    The most important performance index is "how low the latancy can be". On random access, SSD is 100 times faster than HDD. Thus, the SSD will destroy 7200rpm HDD without any doubt.
     
  10. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I agree for the most part, hence my 2nd paragraph...
     
  11. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    ZaZ,

    I'm sure I had read similar responses before and thought 'How could they state that?' when everyone else says the opposite?

    Well, after installing upgrading to Win 7 on a Samsung and an Intel G2 drive (for a client, not my own systems), I have come to the same conclusions as you.

    If you, or anyone else, wants more details - see the SSD thread (sticky).
     
  12. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Just stay clear of early SSD's I made that mistake and now have a stuttering piece of crap. RMAing shortly :)
     
  13. tilleroftheearth

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    I wish it was just 'early' SSD's.

    My client's computer with a Samsung 128 SSD can take minutes to right click on a desktop icon and show the (right click) menu - or, it can do it instantly.

    This is a 6 week old Dell notebook. Upgrading from Windows Vista x64 to Windows 7 x64 (both Ultimate), the performance improved significantly but the stuttering (when it happens) is still there.

    Anybody like 2+ minute shutdown times?

    Buy a $6,000+ Dell with a Samsung SSD.

    SSD's still have a way to go.
     
  14. ronan_zj

    ronan_zj Notebook Evangelist

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    maybe you should send back the SSD to DELL and get a relpacement. I never have this problem on my Samsung SSd, or Vertex and Intel. I am running Windows 7 pro 64bit, and I have tons of software in my drive, such as Matlab, Autodesk Inventor2010, AutodeskCAD2009, Canon DPP, Adobe Lightroom, and they are all running good on my disk.
     
  15. tilleroftheearth

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    This is not my computer. (Client's).
     
  16. ronan_zj

    ronan_zj Notebook Evangelist

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    yea, tell the client to get a replacement
     
  17. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    You have to understand that this notebook is such a huge upgrade for him that he thinks that I am just being too picky (or maybe even jealous?).

    Not to mention the fact that being old and set in one's ways is not congruent with using the latest technologies (in other words, he's a pretty stubborn man).