Samsung Magician Updates

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/support/downloads.html

 

Thanks for letting people know, it's reached it's download limit for the day. Just says 'Security Enhancement' as the improvement in version 4.9.5 - whatever that refers to!

 

Here you go, I've uploaded it for you:

Samsung Magician v4.9.5

 

Thanks, I downloaded it now & installed it, performance looks about the same in benchmarks (RAPID enabled), would be interesting to know what security improvements they made.

 

this finally enables rapid mode in windows 10

i bet a lot of people have been waiting for this

 

Although RAPID was enabled sucessfully in Windows 10 with the previous version, already out for a month or so: version 4.9. The version released a few days ago and talked about in this thread is 4.9.5.

 

Well, all this talk about a new Samsung Magician version and RAPID mode got the better of me.

Or, maybe I was just bored?

I installed Magician 4.9.5 on an ThinkPAD Win10x64Pro i7 QC IB 16GB RAM and 1TB 840 EVO notebook platform and enabled RAPID.

Rebooted the system a few times (after a few minutes idle after booting up and over a period of about 45 minutes) and then left it sit idle for at least half an hour.

I then ran Excel, Word, Access LR, PS and various other programs and could feel the system being obviously snappier.

I then ran the Lenovo Update which needed to update itself. I let it and after it was installed? It wouldn't run. right...

Uninstalled it and reinstalled manually but no dice - Lenovo Update was thrashed.

I disabled RAPID and rebooted the system a couple of times in a row... Lenovo Update popped right up without a hitch (and showed me a few updates the platform needed - which installed without a hitch...).

So, in summary; RAPID is still CRAPID.

Total time running from enabling it to disabling it: less than 2 hours. Sigh.



Crucial Storage Executive and their excellent Momentum Cache has nothing to worry about...

Imagine; offering customers exactly what is promised... MC is running on at least 4 computers I know of for the last few months without any issues (CSE v3.24).

 

Weird that Lenovo Update wouldn't run properly with RAPID installed! Personally I don't have any issues with RAPID enabled for a year on my laptop. I suppose it's good that you noticed that the system was snappier with RAPID installed so I think that's a positive for those that don't have compatibility issues, it's the first time I've heard of compatibility issues but I have heard of data corruption reports.

 

Compatibility issues = data corruption.

When running Win8.1 with RAPID, I didn't have any issues (I think I tested it for a week/month back then???) of compatibility... but I did notice the system was getting slower and slower (which is why it became and remains CRAPID).

After uninstalling it back then; the snap was back.

 

I just got rapid live for the first time this week to attempt to compare it with crucial executive

And crucial executive has a much larger speed gain.

 

RAPID is a massive fail.. Honestly all it does is use your RAM to speed up your SSD and even that temporarily...

 

Crucial executive is the same theory

It could even be the same program under a different interface

But I notice a speed bump especially in writes

But there's something in rapid I haven't figured yet to make it faster .

 

Crucial actually works, even @tilleroftheearth can attest to this! RAPID is CRAP/POOO and all of us can attest to this!

 

Apart from me, I like RAPID - well, it's ok, it's not night & day between RAPID on and off, but things like graphics driver & program installs happen faster with RAPID switched on.

 

ditto!

If you turn on CRAPID mode, you are not benchmarking your SSD anymore, you are benchmarking your RAM.

Translate that intro real world performance and it means absolutely nothing.

For example, test this.....

Copy a huge 10GB + video file or whatever large file you want from your C: partition to another partition on another disk......

you will notice that the Windows file copy progress finishes insanely fast.....the moment it finishes the copy, I want you to restart your system

then check that file you copied, it would be corrupt, reason is, yes the file copy progress finished fast, but it didn't finish really, all it was doing is copying the file from your SSD to the RAM Cache and not the actual 2nd SSD or HDD you were intending to copy to, then after it goes to your RAM Cache using CRAPID, it is supposed to copy from the RAM Cache onto the actual disk in the background which didn't happen in this test I did since I restart immediately after the fake file transfer progress was finished.

so it's just cheating + placebo effect

And after you read this, you will never enable RAPID again.....it will actually make your performance worse not better

A Closer look at the crappy CRAPID

 

I want to see crucial executive the same way because all I'm doing is hdtunebenchmark.

If you turn it off right away you can corrupt a file with it also.

I have 32 gb of ram so I don't see using ram as bad in fact I never use 16 gb it has 16gb of ram that need a use.

 

You linked an old test using the first version of RAPID, newer versions can use up to 4GB of RAM (instead of just the 1GB that your review tested). I have heard a few reports of the data corruption that you talk about - turning off the PC immediately after a large file copy, but I don't know how common that problem is, and if you're mindful of that then it's not really an issue, but I agree there should be some safe guards in place to avoid that kind of situation.

You talk about insanely fast file copies etc, that's a good thing, it speeds up the computing experience - it doesn't matter to the user if that load is then spread out slowly over the SSD over the next seconds, it doesn't negatively effect the computing experience - (apart from the data corruption from turning the PC off before it's finished, which we talked about in previous paragraph).

 

I have verified now that hdtune shows the samsung drive is slower with rapid enabled.

it fact its terrible. and it is the read speed is slower its dropped below 400

and that is the throroughput meaning theres no even illusion of speed....

 

Told ya, RAPID should be named CRAPID.. it's useless in most cases!

 

I downloaded Magician and enabled RAPID yesterday (Samsung 850 EVO which I've been using since June of 2015). Restarted a few times and noticed that my used storage increased by about 20GB, even though I didn't download or install anything. Computer would also crash when enabling sleep mode. I uninstalled Magician and everything seems to work right again, though my disk usage is still increased. Any idea as to why I saw the increase in disk usage?

 

I don't think uninstalling Magician disables the RAPID Mode, you have to disable RAPID first & then you uninstall Magician. Disk space used increases when using RAPID because it stores a persistent cache for RAPID that's loaded into RAM each time you boot up, but I don't think that's more than about 2GB max. When you disable RAPID you get that disk space back I believe (or maybe just when you uninstall it).

 

The maximum limit is increased up to 4GB (or maybe more?) with latest Crapid version.

 

Yeah, you're right, it's up to 4GB, but that's only temporarily used when needed and then it goes back down to 1.3GB minutes thereafter, so it's the 1.3GB file that is saved persistently across boots. I'm not using RAPID anymore, I used it for over a year without issues, but really I don't think it was any faster when enabled, in some instances it seems faster disabled and sometimes faster enabled (like a crap shoot!) - either way I'll keep it simple and let Windows manage that extra chunk of RAM rather than use it for RAPID.

 

I disable RAPID mode prior to uninstalling and haven't noticed any increase in disk space usage since doing it, but also no decrease!

 

Your increase of 20GB in disk space used with RAPID is strange - I'm thinking it's probably not related to RAPID, but something else on your system, what that is I have no clue!

 

Samsung Magician v4.9.6 leaked by Major Geeks and verified by me = http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/samsung_ssd_magician.html

 

According to someone on Guru3D forums 4.9.6 was only active on the Samsung site for a short time before being pulled off it & replaced with the previous 4.9.5 version - it's possible that there's something wrong with version 4.9.6 so might not be wise to install it just yet.

 

who knows, not having any problems with it personally.......

another comment from OC Forums:

 

Unless a firmware update is required for the Samsung SSD you have installed, using any version of Magician can be labeled as 'something wrong with it'. With regards to the O/S optimizations (that effectively destroy the performance of your computer) to the CRAPID option that not only doesn't work, it makes things slower too (and ignoring the possibility of thrashing your O/S once again...).

Magician; install/use at your own risk.

(MS knows much more than Samsung about how to optimize an O/S for real world use).

 

I never use Magician Since the old days of my 840 EVO POS SSD.... especially after you taught me how bad the damage the OS optimizations could do

Before formatting, I install it just to see if there is a firmware update....... then never install it again until the next format.....

PS: Never touching CRAPID, biggest marketing gimmick. It doesn't work on the 950 PRO anyway thank God

 

I keep jumping (every few months or so) between switching RAPID on/off - there's not much difference really, sometimes I feel that navigating webpages is quicker with RAPID turned on, makes me think that maybe parts of the browsing cache gets saved in RAPID. Can't say I love it or hate it though!

 

Unistall the junkware or disable it with Autoruns.exe. Activate it only for checking new Firmware.

 

Haha, yes, I know you don't like RAPID. I don't run Magician at startup though, I turned that off in the options (RAPID doesn't need Magician running).

 

@Robbo99999

Now it's out on Samsung's site.

 

Thanks for letting me know, will install now! (Not that it's likely to provide any real update, but I'll have a read of release notes too). Release notes say: - Improved stability with some SSD models - Minor bug fixes

 

I don't know what to do with it, everything is not supported like OS Optimization (although I wouldnt use it anyway) but its disabled. RAPID is disabled. the only thing you can do with it is to check the health of your SSD and check for firmware updates

 

I've heard bad things about the OS Optimization in Magician, so I don't use that - I make any changes directly in the OS & not in that third party program. RAPID I have enabled at the moment (as I said I kind of flip flop on enabling & disabling!). I do use it to check for firware updates too, although likely no more required for this old drive, and to check TB written out of curiosity.

 

Samsung Magician v4.9.7 Released

 

I'm on my phone. What is changed in the crapware this time?

 

no changelog, Samsung surprises in the box.

PS: you seem to be on your phone more than your laptop. I hope your phone is overclocked

 

LOL. No... A stock Crapphone 5S Aka BGA JUNK. The only BGA thrash I own

 

Thanks for that Phoenix. Did an in place upgrade through Magician interface itself - installed fine, better than uninstalling & reinstalling as that process makes it 'forget' certain data that you've run in Magican (like benchmark data & when Performance Optimization was last run, etc).

What's new in this Version ( http://www.samsung.com/semiconducto...e/Samsung_Magician_497_Installation_Guide.pdf):
- Improved stability with some SSD models
- Update typo

 

I just sold my battery sucking Galaxy S7 and got an iPhone SE, now I can run 3 days without charging! superb small device, same size as the 5S but with bigger battery and better camera and CPU

 

I will not use more money than necessary on a mobile... Switching to new every 2-3 years. The only thing that is important.., small size, large storage and easy to use. I like the screen on Crap phone. Only phone I like to write on due the screen. Have tried several but always returns to this BGA garbage LOL
BTW. Tomorrow is 17 Mai. Norway's birthday. Days before and the loooong day 17 is family party