Samsung Mass Producing PCIe SSD For Ultra Thins

Press Release:
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., the world leader in advanced memory technology, announced today that it has begun mass producing the industry's first PCI-Express (PCIe) solid state drive (SSD) for next-generation ultra-slim notebook PCs.

"With the Samsung XP941, we have become the first to provide the highest performance PCIe SSD to global PC makers so that they can launch leading-edge ultra-slim notebook PCs this year," said Young-Hyun Jun, executive vice president, memory sales & marketing, Samsung Electronics. "Samsung plans to continue timely delivery of the most advanced PCIe SSD solutions with higher density and performance, and support global IT companies providing an extremely robust computing environment to consumers."

Samsung started providing the new SSD to major notebook PC makers earlier this quarter. The XP941 lineup consists of 512, 256 and 128GB SSDs.



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Woot, we will have more expensive out of factory upgrade options.

 

it took them long enough, they have been producing those for apple already for some time

 

Nice! The new Clevo W230ST 13" gaming notebook has a free mini PCIe slot, so this will be a viable additional option for it!

 

This could potentially give you a little shy of 1GB/s read or write, far better than mSATA 3 if the SSD can push it.

 

here is what they can provide on the 512gb model

 

Is it supported? Apart from physically compatibility.

 

This along with the new Sandforce controller gives us a peek at what to come when SATA Express is here.

According to Cnet, the Samsung XP941 can do 1400MB/s on SATA Express. Since its a NGFF format, it supports both SATA-E and SATA3, so you can buy this drive and have a SSD that utilize SATA3 fully while put it in a SATA-E notebook later when its available, and have 1400MB/s

@Karamzo: That is not through a regular SATA3 right?

@HTWingNut: PCI-E notebooks exist?

 

pcie (in this case) = sata express (protocol) = NGFF (connector) = m.2 (same connector)

apple uses a proprietary connector uses the sata express protocol

I hardly doubt their claims of 1400mb/s, its the same controller on the mba

 

What other notebooks have a free pci-e for us to use?

 

currently none confirmed aside the mba, which is proprietary (if you look at the thread that I posted about the pcie ssds, I think I posted the pics in there showing they are physically different)

though we do have some possibility in the clevo w230st, which Im not really confident that they are going to do it, since it would make sense to put in all other models, much like apple will certainly do, though they dont incur in reduced costs of the SSD itself, they incur on the connector

 

Thats what I thought. Never heard about any notebook having PCI-e available or used, any other than network cards using it.

Well even though, this and the one I posted earlier , Griffin controller, will saturate SATA3 to the max, while you still can use it on SATA-E when it arrives for much faster speeds.

Finally we are moving forward with SSDs. We have been stuck here for maybe almost 2 years now thanks to the slow guys who make the specifications.

 

yes sata express protocol defines that it has to be sata 3 compatible, I dont remember for the others though.

its basically a middle step till we use the SFsomething something dark side, that wont be backwards compatible and will provide much more speed.

now I remember, but I think some of the zenbooks are stated to receive that, I think the acer s ultrabooks as well.

in the end the only thing I see here are great numbers and hope for availability when I make my new purchase, funnily enough my mom just asked me if I want a new notebook, she always does that when it reaches the 2 year mark, I always say no, stupid me

 

Sony VAIO PRO also use PCIe for SSDs. So it looks like only the newest ones, and only Ultrabook have it.

My question is:Why the freaking hell doesnt the newest ones from MSI or Alienware have it? They make notebook for enthusiasts. Enthusisast such as myself need to have this. Do the OEMs really have this little foresight?

I must say Im dissappointed

Edit: Lenovo y510p also have pcie for SSD

 

So what physical connector is this? The same mPCIe that most notebooks have? If not, is a physical conversion possible?

 

http://www.pcisig.com/developers/ma...c_id=40b3a6125722725569a266fd6ee3253a18b99ad5

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W230ST is showing as having a mini PCIe slot for SSD, so I would assume so.

 

Looks like Apple leads the way like always. They were the first one to use High resolution screens ("Retina"), Samsung and the rest followed after. Now Apple is first to use these new PCIe SSDs in their Macbooks. Well atleast we have a few other OEMs using it, but only in Ultrabooks.

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Why get obsessed with sequential transfer rate? And obviously people are not paying apple premium on gaming machines. They will happily throw in everything thing if people happily buy them at apple price.

 

old news. there is a large difference on the performance from the samsung drive and the sandisk drive (using the new marvel controller), the reads are pretty much half of what samsung offers, there it goes again the battle to get the samsung SSDs on apple pcs

unless you have a mba with you and care to provide benchies about 4k and consistency, thats pretty much all we got on those new ones so far

and people pay premium outside apple, since when aw is actually cheap? or even the msi pre configured machines? like the GT series? asus G series? razer? even clevo builders dont escape the premium, the hp real envys (not those right now, they are crap), hp spectres?

not to mention since when what you consider a good buy has any bearings on what other people consider?

 

Regarding ssd, i thought we are talking about sata express and pcie, which are just bandwidth increase rather than ssd tech improvement.

All windows machine performance/dollar is much higher than apple? I just looking at specs.
I didnt say apple is not worth it, but other manf don't have enough margain/market to make/put whatever they want.

 

again if you do provide the necessary benchies we would be happy to discuss them, so far we only have sequential reads and writes.

off course they do. apple has a 10% market share, so to make 100% we still have 90% to be divided among few vendors. they also can charge whatever they want.

and simply I wasnt mentioning that every pc has a high margin, actually its the opposite, that is not connected to the fact that they dont have premium brands, nor that they dont have higher margins

 

Eh? Did you even read my post just before yours? It should be compatible with the upcoming Clevo 13" notebook.

 

I would like to see oems include 2-4 ngff slots for these ssds. 2 being the minimum. Since a case is not required, I wonder if the cost of ssds will go down a bit too.

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Ha! You think companies will pass that savings on to us? It will be a "cost savings opportunity" for them. We just get to pad their pockets more.

 

Anyone know when are this pcie / m.2 ssds hitting retail? The new asus maximus mobos have a port for it.

 

no clue, but I just went to newegg, and suddenly they dont have any SSD that is decent, with a larger capacity of 250gb, they are all sold out

 

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and we have some numbers, its meh, it upped the ante in sequential, but not on the 4k low depths. consistency is VERY good.

we have to wait for the new controllers to catch up more