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    Samsung SSD - RAPID MODE?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Beemo, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Beemo

    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Using Samsung Magician Utility and enabling RAPID MODE:

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    Is this a legit result?

    RAPID MODE: DISABLED

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    RAPID MODE: ENABLED

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    I don't see any difference during boot up though.
     
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  2. Vistar Shook

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    Certainly impressive in benchmarks but in practice there is no performance gain.
     
  3. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Very good RAM speed but I prefer non RAPID mode for better data reliability and availability
     
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    Midas Touch now is Beemo?
    To clarify what I said before and Vasudev as well.....the rapid mode is a form of RAM caching for the SSD, so the benchmark is reflecting the RAM speed, which is much faster than the SSD, but the SSD speed is still in the 550/520 MBs range. There might be a few scenarios where the caching will increase performance, but not like the benchmarks suggest. In general, the consensus is just leave it off.
     
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  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    If you turn on CRAPID mode, you are not benchmarking your SSD anymore, you are benchmarking your RAM.

    Translate that intro real world performance and it means absolutely nothing.

    For example, test this.....

    Copy a huge 10GB + video file or whatever large file you want from your C: partition to another partition on another disk......

    you will notice that the Windows file copy progress finishes insanely fast.....the moment it finishes the copy, I want you to restart your system

    then check that file you copied, it would be corrupt, reason is, yes the file copy progress finished fast, but it didn't finish really, all it was doing is copying the file from your SSD to the RAM Cache and not the actual 2nd SSD or HDD you were intending to copy to, then after it goes to your RAM Cache using CRAPID, it is supposed to copy from the RAM Cache onto the actual disk in the background which didn't happen in this test I did since I restart immediately after the fake file transfer progress was finished.

    so it's just cheating + placebo effect

    And after you read this, you will never enable RAPID again.....it will actually make your performance worse not better

    A Closer look at the crappy CRAPID
     
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    In short, looks good on paper but useless really and can only do more harm that good. Got it.

    P.S

    I don't know why they even bother putting this crap in the first place.
     
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  7. Vasudev

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    @Beemo I thought why the hell beemo was replying to Midas's post. Thanks Vistaar Shook for clearing that up.
     
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    Because it's cool to advertise an SSD "with 3500 MB/S Read and Write" Speed so they can sell more and attach the benchmark scores so clueless people will be like "whoaaaa, this is the best SSD made ever since sliced bread" and $hitsung makes more money
     
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    What if enabled on a game drive? I mean what I really have to lose? Would I gain load times though?