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    Samsung SSD 970 PRO | EVO

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by hmscott, Apr 24, 2018.

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    Translated from German, video now in English.

    Samsung 970 SSD presented and directly tested by us
    On April 24, 2018 by Johannes
    https://www.newgadgets.de/86178/samsung-970-ssd-vorgestellt-und-von-uns-direkt-getestet/

    "With the Samsung 970 SSD , Samsung today introduces its latest SSD series and of course we have not let it take them directly for you to test.

    As with its predecessors, an EVO and a PRO variant of the SSD was presented again. We're testing the 970 EVO with 1TB of storage, this SSD is meant for the end user who wants to make his system faster but also pay attention to the price. Who wants to get everything out of his SSD and has a system which, for example, constantly has to access databases, should prefer to opt for the 970 PRO, which provides some additional benefits for this task.

    Techtalk
    New here is the Phoenix controller which ensures that the SSDs can achieve a performance increase of up to 30% compared to the predecessor. That is already a clear announcement. The 970 EVO uses 64 Layer TLC (Triple-Level-Cell) memory cells. In reading, the SSD achieves speeds of up to 3.5 GB / s and in writing up to 2.5 GB / s. These are very impressive results.Samsung now offers the 970 EVO with a memory size of up to 2 TB, the 970 PRO up to 1 TB.The 970 PRO uses 64 Layer MLC memory cells. It also reaches up to 3.5 GB / s in reading and up to 2.7 GB / s in writing. The IOPS have also been increased and are now up to 480,000, which corresponds to an increase of 27%.

    The predecessor was pretty warm during use and also because the developers have thought about how this could improve the successor. For example, the new controller is coated with nickel to achieve better thermal conductivity. Thanks to the new Dynamic Thermal Guard, the SSD is now also protected against overheating. Before it comes within a critical temperature range, the speed is throttled until it is in the green range of the temperature again.

    Both Samsung SSDs get 5-year warranty or 1,200 TB TBW, which is 50% more than their predecessor.

    installation
    Who has never installed a M.2 SSD, it is really very easy! The M.2 slots are usually easy to reach in the current motherboards and it really only a small screw must be solved. Then insert the SSD into the slot and screw it tight. Finished!
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    benchmarks
    For the test report, we have installed it in our current test system and started the two common benchmarks for SSD storage, AS SSD and CrystalDiskMark to determine the speed of the SSD.
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    Conclusion
    Nice that Samsung has responded to the heat problem of its predecessor and has now taken the appropriate measures to eliminate this problem from the world. With the 970 SSD you have now brought back an extremely fast SSD on the market thanks to increased TBW value for a long time will have his joy. The Samsung 970 SSDs will be available from May onwards."

    Samsung SSD 970 review
    NewGadgets.de
    Published on Apr 24, 2018
    We reviewed the new Samsung SSD 970 EVO with 1TB.Check out what's new with this ssd generation.
     
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    Samsung SSD 970 PRO | EVO : Unreal Performance, Realized
    Samsung
     
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    More German videos, in video translation may be available/useful... hopefully more English based content will follow...

    Samsung SSD 970 Pro and Evo | What are the new NVME SSDs?
    PC Games Hardware


    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Hands On German 4k
    All About Samsung
     
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    @Phoenix is gonna like the new controller´s name :p
     
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    while im very happy about the 970 pro still sporting MLC flash, its a worrying trend that its lineup doesnt include a 2TB option, whereas the EVO series does. so this marks a shift towards TLC even for Samsung highend drives...

    my prediction: once QLC drives hit the shelves, TLC will be the new "high end" with MLC drives a thing of the past... :(
     
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    Ah at least I still have a spare M.2 slot in the new P775TM. Might as well sell the 960 PRO now and get full on 970 era.
     
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    I prefer AnandTech for the drive reviews mainly because they take into account battery drain and drive power characteristics during idle/active etc in comparison to other drives. According to them the 970 EVO actually eats a little more power than than the 960 EVO which was interesting. Pretty important for laptops depending on how much the difference is of course.

    Source for power draw characteristics:
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12670/the-samsung-970-evo-ssd-review/8
     
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    So which are the lowest power M.2 SATA, M.2 NVME, and SATA SSD's currently available? And, what power draw at idle, read, and write cycles?

    I also posted the Anandtech articles:
     
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    They also mention that the idle to wake latency is worse on the 970EVO by a factor of two vs the 960 EVO. I mean probably wont notice it much in daily use but that is kinda interesting. Guessing a firmware update will be coming to fix that and the power draw. Currently the Intel 760P seems best overall with the 960 PR/EVO and Toshiba XG5 decent power draw wise.The 760P performance wise though is not as good as these.

    As for write cycles, for the 960 series Samsung was using an older larger process. Larger the process the greater the write endurance. With the 970 Samsung went to a smaller node, sub 20nm I believe but with more layers they seem to have offset the write endurance loss due to node change. Even the 960 Pro can have much higher endurance, but Samsung won't warranty it very high as that would put the 960/970 series in competition with enterprise drives which would be bad for profits.


    Even as far back as the 840 PRO/EVO era, a long term endurance test was done and most drives lasted way way longer than their "official" TBW limits.
    https://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead/2

    For example MyDigital's BPX 2D Planar MLC 480GB (~$180-200) drive is officially warranty rated at 1400TBW and they use pretty much the same controller and NAND as the Patriot Hellfire and similar to the OCZ (Toshiba) RD400. So just imagine how much the 960/970 Pro using 3D NAND can last, at least that much. Only down side to the Phison E7 controller in the BPX and Hellfire is power draw, still great for desktops though.
     
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    IMO,test results of 0 data empty "D" drives are completely useless!

    Testing in Safe Mode is equally as bad and if both a D drive and in Safe Mode double useless.
     
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    what do you guys use for dock/cloning solution on evo 970? i'm about to get one, but need to clone the system from an old 2.5" drive...