Sandy Bridge revealed in Acer, Gateway, Lenovo

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hmm...nice..

does the i7-2630QM come with HT?

looks like there's no turbo mode either...should that be a concern?

 

i7s will always have turbo and HT.

i5s might sometimes not have HT and will have turbo.

i3s will have HT (but less cores perhaps) but not turbo.

Turbo is one of the reasons for such the large power efficientcy gains in recent times, I doubt intel is going to junk that in their flagship products.

 

That's for desktop CPUs. Mobile CPUs feature HT and turbo, all of them (except if there are some mobile i3, but so far the i5-2520M is the lowest CPU of the range).

The i7-2630qm seems nice but I hope the i7-2720qm doesn't consequently get kicked out or sold at a huge premium.

 

...and I was just getting used to the old names/numbers. Drat!

 

Based on Intel's/Laptop makers' past pricing policy, 2720QM is going to be priced very likely several hundred $$ over the 2630QM. Take a look how much more they charge for a 820qm/840qm over a 720qm/740qm

 

It could be that the 26xxQM line lacks a Turbo-mode when compared to their 27xxQM counterparts. That would make the naming scheme even more confusing if that's the case.

Here's an idea; let's not make any more threads about SB or HR since there are already more than enough threads about it.

Can't wait for CES...

 

that's exactly the thought i'm getting when looking at all the SB graphs

if they take away HT, I'm going to be even more

Do you guys have a link to something that says it def has HT?

 

This is extremely unlikely. Without Turbo Mode, you have a CPU that runs at 2.0GHz so it is outright inferior (by 50%+) to most dual-cores in everything but heavily threaded tasks (which are rare). Turbo Mode is Intel's solution to this 4+core problem; I do not see a scenario under which they will give it up.

 

if the 2630 is suppose to be the equivalent of the 7X0QM and 2720qm to the 8X0QM, with 8X0QM's usually being hundreds more then 7X0QM, wouldn't you almost be better off buying the current 740QM with turbo vs. buying the 2630 with no turbo if you cared about cost and maximizing processor speed?

these are my questions with very limited knowege about processors in general...any thoughts?

sorry for my ignorance if I'm not looking at the big picture with the SB processors...

 

Wow, chill out people. HT was already present on the entire mobile lineup, intel is not taking that away. No link but leaked roadmap show that every other mobile Sandy Bridge gets HT. Besides what's the point, release CPUs that get owned by their counterparts of the previous generation ?

Same with turbo boost, see Althernai's argument.

Yes but there's also a i7-2820qm that was expected to replace the i7-820qm, and a i7-2920XM too. So the i7-2720qm was expected to be the new affordable quad-core, replacing the i7-720qm, as its name suggests.

 

You are discussing a scenario that is borderline impossible. First, the 2630 will almost certainly have Turbo -- I would be willing to bet serious money on that. Second, here is the currently known lineup of quad-core Sandy Bridge CPUs:

Core i7 2920XM 2.5GHz 8MB 4 / 8 3.5GHz DDR3-1600 12 650 / 1300MHz 55W
Core i7 2820QM 2.3GHz 8MB 4 / 8 3.4GHz DDR3-1600 12 650 / 1300MHz 45W
Core i7 2720QM 2.2GHz 6MB 4 / 8 3.3GHz DDR3-1600 12 650 / 1300MHz 45W
Core i7-2630QM 2.0GHz

The most obvious interpretation is that the 2920 replaces the 9X0, the 2820 replaces the 8X0 and the 2720 replaces the 7X0. The names are practically exact replicas of the initial Clarksfield CPUs with a 2 in front of them. The Core i7-2630QM is something new -- I suspect it is the beginning of the introduction of quad-cores into the mainstream which Intel is planning to push with Ivy Bridge.

 

It is less likely for them to remove HT than to remove Turbo mode.
A quad-core without HT would mean it would be inferior to a Hyperthreaded dual-core in every single way, even if it does have Turbo. But i agree, it is very unlikely, but there must be a difference non the less.

Notebookcheck suggests that the 2630QM has the exact same spec (incl. HT) as the 2720QM, but lacks Turbo.

The 8xxQM line had more cache (8MB>6MB) when compared to the 7xxQM, but that doesn't seem to be the case when looking at the 2630QM spec.
I don't understand it either, maybe it's AES / Virtualization support that's missing or it has less integrated graphics cores?


@ Deuce

Even IF the 2630QM does lack Turbo (which is very unlikely, like Althernai rightfully says) then it's still not a good idea to buy a 7xxQM based laptop now. If battery life is of any concern, by all means wait for SB-based laptops since they have integrated graphics when compared to their predecessors. SB has many more improvements that will help improve overall system performance.
Save up some more cash and get the 2720QM. It would be well worth the wait and the money.

 

i wonder how much it costs them to make each SB processor compared to how much they charge for them

 

That is clearly wrong since every website selling these laptops quotes the clock speed at 2.0GHz, not 2.2GHz. I suspect they don't have a Turbo frequency simply because it is currently unknown (the CPU is not in Intel's slides).

 

Awesome...thanks everyone...and what you guys said makes sense...the (2)720QM will likely be their mainstream performance CPU and replace the 720QM. My guess is it'll probably be priced similar to current 720QM's then.

Can't wait!!!

 

Wrong, look at the i5 750, quad without HT and it still has turbo.

A native quad will always win over a dual + HT, HT at most can add 30% to the performance, so even a tri-core processor WILL beat out a dual + HT.

In this case we are talking about an I7, they are not going to strip out a feature from an I7 chip that the I5s would have. It would spoil the i7 moniker and dilute their brand.

The worst that will happen is maybe another MB or two of cache removed and one clock step down.

 

Am I the only one that noticed, but the article in the OP, mentions nothing about new gpu's. It says, they will add ati 5750's, but what about the new 6xxx series?

However, it does say some will have the 6500's series.

 

Gateway and Acer are great for stating they will have laptops available that take months to hit the market. I am not sure about Lenovo though............

 

Alienware m17x R3 is going to have the options of dual GTX 470 or dual ATI HD6870/6970. And a 3D screen.

 

If only there was any news about its release date

 

True, so true. You hear about new tech products all the time, but frequently they just disappear. The Eee 1218 is perfect example.

 

Lots of maker will be releasing Sandy Bridge laptops at CES, including Dell. Maybe Alienware will be there too.

 

The problem is when will they be available for purchase? Most products are announced at CES but without clear indication of availability.

 

Well it's not even availability it's when they ship...late Feb? lol