The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous page

    Seagate Momentus 640GB 2.5" Hard Drive ST9640322AS

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Phil, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Thanks everyone. Im going to pass on this seagate. Will wait when Western digital puts on their unit which is alwayss better and faster than seagates laptop drives.
     
  2. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Someone who also has this HDD? Have a little question about that.
     
  3. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

    Reputations:
    4,412
    Messages:
    8,077
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Nice, so the 7K200, which is a good 3 years old is faster than this new drive from seagate
    Tisk, tisk. Seagate really needs to get back in the game with performance.

    K-TRON
     
  4. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    941
    Messages:
    2,555
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    embarrassing.
     
  5. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I see WD 640GB benchmarks, similar to Seagate.
     
  6. t30power

    t30power Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    190
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Another poor Seagate performer, I would wait for the Hitachi 5K640, the 5K500.B have the same speed as this 640GB model taking in fact the Seagate has more aereal density than the Hitachi.
     
  7. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Where do you see this??
     
  8. Creator527

    Creator527 Guest

    Reputations:
    23
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Where is the link?
     
  9. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Here is HDTune test of my Seagate 640G in ODD Bay and WD 640G from others.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  10. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Incorrect by scientific standards. The WD result is not accurate.
     
  11. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    And synthetic benchmarks don't tell the real story. If we're going to rely on synthetic benchmarks it should include the random and small reads like page 2 of HDTune Pro and CrystalMark.

    The WD 640GB will most likely beat the Seagate 640GB in real life performance.
     
  12. Creator527

    Creator527 Guest

    Reputations:
    23
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    [​IMG]

    The WD's transfer rate results are disappointing compared to my above Fujitsu drive (250GB/platter, 5400RPM) Almost no improvement! I wonder if the tested WD6400BEVT was bottlenecked in some way.
     
  13. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well obviously. Anytime you see Chinese lettering you know it is not accurate information. You simply have to wait till they go on sale and view results from real people.
     
  14. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    If sequential read speeds meant a lot the Seagate 7200.4 would be way faster than a WD3200BEKT. In real life the WD3200BEKT beats the Seagate 7200.4.

    Why? because of acces times, IOPS and random read speeds.

    Crystal Mark and HDTune page 2 provide better benchmarks.
     
  15. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

    Reputations:
    5,398
    Messages:
    12,692
    Likes Received:
    2,717
    Trophy Points:
    631
    Phil,

    When I bought the Seagate 7200.4 500GB model to replace my Hitachi 7K200 I thought I had screwed up the install of Vista x64. When I re-installed the Hitachi and the performance doubled, I returned the Seagate thinking I got a defective one.

    I repeated this three more times until I finally gave up on the Seagates (I returned 4, Seagate 7200.4 drives). What replaced it was the 500GB Scorpio Blue 5400rpm drive. Yes there are times when the Seagate was faster, but overall the system doesn't pause (almost freeze) like it did with the Seagate - and I still have the extra GB's too!

    I will not even consider the 640GB Seagate and although the benchmarked performance of the 640GB Scorpio Blue looks bad - this is the drive that I'm interested in - unless Hitachi is going to bring a 7K640 version soon (or I get an SSD, heh).

    I long ago found that benchmarks meant very little to how a drive 'feels' when using it - I wish reviews would focus more on that aspect than the simple benchmarks they post.

    I really believe that Seagate tweaks their firmware to 'bench' impressively, but they do that at the expense of real world performance in actual O/S's.

    So, anybody else care to post their upgrade experience from their old to their new drives as to how the O/S responds (feels)?
     
  16. Phil

    Phil Retired

    Reputations:
    4,415
    Messages:
    17,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Well I agree synthetic benchmarks don't mean much. But there are many real world benchmarks out there that do give an accurate impression of the HDD speed. Like the WorldBench benchmark Techreport.com uses. Or the file copy benchmarks.
     
  17. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    EErrrrrrr.... there are ZERO benchmarks on the internet of the 640gb scorpio. The screenshot of the results with asian lettering are false. Anytime you see asian lettering it should be common knowledge to dismiss the results.
     
  18. zephyrus17

    zephyrus17 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    646
    Messages:
    1,576
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I just got this for free. It may not have the best performance, but I'm not complaining. :D
     
← Previous page