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    Shin Etsu X23-7783D ?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by tyxpx, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. tyxpx

    tyxpx Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone ever use this stuff? Has some awsome reviews. Wondering if anyone has any actual experience with it and can give some feedback on it. Im going to do a repaste and in my search Ive gotten to ic diamond, AS5 and this stuff..... Really leaning toward this stuff though :)

    Shin-Etsu X23-7783D Silicone Thermal Compound - 1g - FrozenCPU.com
     
  2. Nemix77

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    I'd like know too, anyone tested this stuff after using IC Diamond and have comparison results?
     
  3. senshin

    senshin Notebook Evangelist

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    I just ordered some, on the moment i have thermal paste from noctua.
    I let you guys know.

    :)
     
  4. Crimsoned

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    I use it exclusively.
    I've tested IC diamond, X23 gave me very similar results.
     
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    Yeah I used X23 on several of my older desktop builds. If I had the cash I'd use that on my laptop at the moment. I remember it dropping my temps a solid 5*C from the previous Arctic Silver 5. :D

    Excellent stuff.
     
  6. senshin

    senshin Notebook Evangelist

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    okok, i also ordered X23-7921-5 from shin itsu just to try.
    I am very curious about this compound because the numbers are way better, and seen some small reviews but nothing really good, impressions where better then 7783D but will see.
     
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    Well if its made of silicon isn't that some of the best stuff for heat?

    Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Sounds interesting, I'll probably try it and see how it goes.
     
  9. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The top 5-10 most mentioned thermal compounds in NBR tend to have very similar results and all are pretty much in the same range in terms of average and variances. The most important thing in getting good results is not the paste but application.
     
  10. senshin

    senshin Notebook Evangelist

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    there is always room for improvement,
    and I just like to experiment with it :)
     
  11. senshin

    senshin Notebook Evangelist

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    just applied x23-7783D and so far working pretty well.
    Temps are on par with the noctua right now, only x23 needs a curing time so i think it will decrease with 1 -3 degrees and then is better. (CPU)
    On the gpu i have effective already 2 degrees less heat, so see what gonna happen
     
  12. tyxpx

    tyxpx Notebook Consultant

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    Mine came in today and twas my first time applying paste and my first time taking apart the m18x! Everything went well and got the beast back together with no extra parts!

    It is really easy to get this computer apart and after this time would probaly only take 15 min when I do it again, goes back together even easier. The damn clip for the SSD is a real POS so beware if youve never done it. I broke on of the tiny tabs on the bottom of it but it still holds on well.

    Couple questions. I thought factory had "pads" and not a paste? Both my GPU and CPU had silver paste, that normal for a new system?

    The thermal pads around the GPU heatsink were not in the best place to make contact with the chips around the GPU, should I change these and place them better or does it not matter much?

    Anyone know where to get that little plastic clip for the SSD? Id like to have a spare laying around.

    Whats the black sticker type stuff around the area the CPU and GPU make contact with the heatsink? The cleaner I was using (indigo xtremem clean) was taking this off so I stopped getting it on any of it. i was also super extra careful to get it only on the metal of the CPU and GPU, was scared it would eat at the silicon chip....

    Results!...

    I tested playing WOT for about an hour and measure max temps. So far CPU is only 1C cooler than stock but GPU is 4C cooler than stock! ill update as time goes on.
     
  13. Crimsoned

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    Paste is normal for a majority of times for CPU application, GPU tends to be a pad but on some systems it's paste.

    Alienware is kind of a high end system with powerful GPU's so chances are paste is not unexpected.

    I am unsure about the black coating without seeing it.
     
  14. senshin

    senshin Notebook Evangelist

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    i am now waiting for my X23-7921-5
    Very curious if it will be better then x23-7783D


    Now it's running very cool with 7783D, yesterday I applied it and with stress testing it won't bumb the 75 degrees what i geuss is very low.
    Before it would go up to 85 degrees or so.
     
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    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    It is like saying black socks are better than gray socks, which are both better than white socks.
    Save your money and put it towards something that matters.

    Chris
     
  16. Qing Dao

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    Well sorry if some people care about their CPU/GPU temperatures. It's fine if for you it isn't, but for some of us it is important. Cooler temps can lead to longer lifespan, more overclocking/turboboost headroom, quieter fans, fix overheating/throttling issues, etc.
     
  17. Nemix77

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    Any comparisons with MX-4?

    Skinnee Labs shows both pastes are about the same in performance with proper (great) contact (MX-4 and 7783D) except Shin-Etsu costs 2x more.

    I cannot use IC Diamond any longer since the stuff really leaves scratch marks on the CPU/GPU die, I suspect if not careful with IC Diamond over pasting and getting some on the small chips around the CPU and GPU die can be harmful in the long run.

    Same goes for Arctic Silver 5 uses micro silver crystals which is conductive and like IC Diamond if not careful and overspread can be harmful in the long run.

    The only two I'm looking at right now is MX-4 and 7783D.
     
  18. Crimsoned

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    Artic MX-4 ranked lower than 7783D in my testing. In fact it scored marginally below Artic Silver 5.
     
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    Thanks for the reply,

    I think I'll just stick with MX-4 and Arctic Silver 5 (even though AS5 is conductive), both pastes are easy to find and have good performance/price ratio.

    The only Shin-Etsu 7783D available to me is though eBay which is very questionable if it's genuine paste, even if genuine 7783D is 2 - 2.5x more expensive then MX-4 and AS5 (not a problem if it indeed performs better).

    The eBay seller is selling 7783D - Grey which is suppose to superior to White, I tried looking up White and Grey 7783D and nothing available online.
     
  20. senshin

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    okok, I pasted my cpu and gpu with 7921-5 that I received yesterday.
    All I can say is WOW.

    I used stock paste, my cpu went to 90 degress and even higher (i geuss also bad application!)
    Then i used Noctua paste, my temps downed with 5 degrees so got 85 max.
    Then I installed 7783 what also worked a little bit better, got temps max of 82 degrees and idle was 50 - 53, but this was with every other paste also, stock was like 55 - 57 idle.

    No I used the 7921 and it's great, my max temps top out on 79 degrees!! and talking about idle temps, 44 - 48 degrees what alot lower becuase no paste could do this.

    I think i have a new winner for my laptop :)
     
  21. Crimsoned

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    I've never seen or heard of 7783D white. It's always been grey.
     
  22. Nemix77

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    Pretty expensive stuff and only one place has it.

    Highly considering ordering one tube for my laptop (and probably some left over for my next laptop purchase) and have a spare tube of MX-4 for everything else.

    Edit:

    Ordered 3G tube of Shin-Etsu X23-7921-5 from ModDIY with 10% off coupon code. Now just waiting for delivery... :)
     
  23. senshin

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    did I say it was white??
     
  24. Qing Dao

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    Read the post Crimsoned quoted.
     
  25. Nemix77

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    Ordered 3G tube of Shin-Etsu X23-7921-5 from ModDIY with 10% off coupon code. We'll see how it turns out, I'm expecting 5 degrees drop from my current MX-3.
     
  26. ellalan

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    Don't expect too much, if you are lucky, you might get 2º-3ºC drop in temps, sorry for being pessimistic ;)
     
  27. Nemix77

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    I'll probably get more a bit more, like said expectation is 5 degrees. I use spread method on almost all pastes I've used (except ID Diamond) and get the best results from it. I've done over 100+ CPU's and worked with over 10+ different pastes. It takes time and a great deal of patience to get the spread method right (sometimes even twice re-spread/seating) but with practice you get used to it and get on one shot best contact possible.

    Edit:

    If you like ModDIY on Facebook you get an additional 10% off on top of any code already applied.
     
  28. senshin

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    yeah, edit post and then somebody saying i am wrong :/ :(

    :D