Smoke came out of Alienware 17 2014

I've been stuck with Ivy Bridge since forever... simply because the new generations barely improved, until Ryzen came along.

Same goes for the GPU generations.

 

Well for me my line in the sand is with Haswell, it does have improvements for emulators and I like to boot up my old games in newer crisp visuals from time to time

But yeah I agree with you man

 

Probably going to get blasted out or laughed at, but I would love some input. Are there reasons to stay away from something like the Acer Predator 17?

I know it doesn't have the options that one from HID comes with and has soldered components, but I was wondering if you could give input.

Should I start a new topic in the what should I buy forum?

I am considering the P750DM2-G from HID, but it's around $2300 range.

 

If going big, buy from a respectable reseller that will give you maximum customization.

IMHO that is the only way to go. You don't go out buying a sports car randomly, you investigate every aspect of it - because it is essentially a large investment.

Also try asking around on the Acer forums right here at NBR

 

ACERBOOK aka BGA. Big No thanks from me. And low entry i7 BGA who already sweating. Upcoming games will push this low powered i7 BGA further And be prepered to buy max extended warranty. High risk... Smoke will came out from this as well.








And finally TRIPOD

 

Wow that fan and heatsink setup is scary. Thanks for the info. I'm definitely leaning towards the EVOC P750DM2-G with an i5-7600K and GeForce 1070. More than I wanted to spend, but it seems to be better quality.

 

What do y'all think of this setup? I know it's not the F5, but I wanted to go with HID after all the good talk I've read about them.


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Go with unlocked i7, (1070 if you have the money), Windoze X Pro (No need for OS re-install usb if you have usb thumb from before). And extended the warranty if you intend to have the machine long time(depends how clever you are with computers). And yeah, Go with @Donald@HIDevolution

 

I have the i5-7600K for that build, is that not enough?

Did choose the 1070.

I don't have a USB with Windows 10 on it already, still had 7 on my old rig as I wanted to avoid 8 and 10. I've heard that you can mod 10 to work pretty well though. Does the Pro version offer that much more?


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Remember next gen core i7 who comes this fall will have 6 cores or 12 threads against i5-7600K's 4 threads(i7-7700K 4c/8t aka more forward-looking). There are more opportunities to control updates with Pro + you have GPEDIT

 

Win10x64 Pro works better than any other O/S available today.

And yeah; it can be 'modded' too.

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-590#post-10510618

 

Windoze X is like feces without modification(And the Windoze X Home Edition is pure trash). Still crippled. + Micro$haft failed to deliver And I do not think @Mr. Fox is totally agree with you bruh about this Cartoon OS, HaHa

 

Our opinions have been noted! And as I already pointed out; 'Pro' is the only Win10x64 version worth to talk about.

Is Win10 a work in progress? Yeah. But it is still the future... no matter what small benefits a decade old O/S may seem to hint at today over it's successor.

See:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-optane-3d-xpoint-p4800x,5030-9.html

The above is just one reason why a modern O/S is needed for modern hardware. MS, Intel and a few other major players don't optimize for what is happening today - that's 'done'. They're already aiming for 2025...

BM 'scores' do not translate into meaningful, real world results.

That's where MS and Intel are going; real world results for the masses, with seamless and ever improving progress. Not world beating results (for today or a few days/months) for the top 1% O/C's, etc. who always have a system that is a work in progress and not really ever, stable (because they like to push it).

The 'mess' that is windows settings will get fixed in due time (I can cope, for now...). The business side of things will always land where the biggest pot of $$$$$$ seems to lie (they can always go back - if they were wrong).

But what is 100% absolute? If you have the will, there is the way (see the video in my previous link above).

 

Maybe next year? (In the major Windows 10 updates March or September 2018 ?) Forget it for this fall. Within 2 years, maybe It's only +four years since Microsoft first released the PC Settings

 

If I was living in the settings windows... I'd be agreeing with you... but why be cynical? It may come as soon as this September too!

 

Would prefer for them to fix whats broken in the Creators update first before innovating anything else

 

Why Windows 10 Sucks or
Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows - itvision.altervista.org


In conclusion
Just before you call me anti-Microsoft, a Linux shill, zealot or fanatic, here's a wonderful list of Linux problems that I've been compiling over the past six years. The truth is I don't plead allegiance to any OS on the market. So, sorry, Windows 10 sucks no less than Linux sucks, it just sucks differently. So far, Microsoft has had two great modern OSes: Windows XP and Windows 7 (in the past they had rock solid Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000).

I have no attitude towards MacOS X, because I've never had a chance to use it, however from what I've seen on screenshots this OS has the worst fonts antialiasing among any existing OSes - I actually refuse to try it because I don't want to hurt my eyes.

I'm not a journalist and I've never been one.

P.S. If you want to reinforce your love towards Microsoft and Windows 10 go to neowin.net - this website has thousands of raving idiots who dribble and moan with excitement from everything made by Microsoft.

Some guy from game-debate dot com rewrote this article in an easy-to-understand way.

 

TheReciever, consider how widely used Windows is - the breadth of hardware and software that can be used on it is mind boggling. There is no 'right' way of attacking the issues for everyone, but overall, I agree with what MS is doing to keep my business interests afloat; not to mention the other 95% of the world that finds it the most suitable O/S for their purposes too. Note that I am not just talking about Win10 here; I'm talking about every version of Windows that has ever existed and someone, somehow, still keeps running today.

Could it be better? Sure. But MS DOS was the 'O/S' I betted on over 35 years ago (I implemented it as a 'policy' in my company)... and MS has left very little reason for me to depend on anything from anyone else since (especially long term like that...) - even with their latest offerings. What makes Windows great is the possibility of easily modifying it for each users 'wish list' of their version of a perfect O/S.

That is why hearing moaning about MS is like hearing a baby cry; you just wish they'd grow up. And do/act on their wishes themselves.

Are some things broken and even show stoppers with Win10? I'm sure there are for a select few. But in the end, it isn't just about MS (or any other company) to be innovative (on their own) - it is up to the users to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and modernize their thinking and workflows as needed to adjust to today's reality too. Having to use a computer online today with an ancient/old O/S is not my idea of 'winning'.

Constantly developed and implemented new technology ensures that if you're not updating your hardware, software and O/S on your devices - in a more or less steady pace - you'll soon be left behind. The sad part is that most users don't even know how left behind they are - until they buy and learn to use (15 minutes - tops) a new/current system.

For every single person I have 'dragged, kicking and screaming' into the 21st century with regards to their main platform(s) - there isn't a single one that went back to use what they had previously.

Better, doesn't mean perfect. But that doesn't mean progress isn't and hasn't been made too.

 

Papusan,

Is that article really from 2015??? Quoting the same issues as from circa 1995???

I won't go and debate each point in that link - that's a waste of my time... but, considered overall, Win10x64Pro as it is today is a giant step forward for the world we live in today. There isn't one, widely used, O/S that can't be picked apart similarly.

Not to mention the many errors that article contains especially with regards to the 'spying' side of things. Which all modern O/S's do - even all browsers or any other software that accesses data over the 'net...

But the proof is in the pudding; sometime in late September 2014 I got access to the first taste of Win10x64Pro.

I've never looked back.

All the O/S's I've used in the past just seem steps towards Win10x64Pro.

And in ~30 more years, if I'm still around, I'll be saying the same thing about the O/S I'll be using then. Why?

Because everything has it's place and time. It's up to us to decide to make the most of it.

 

Just a little taste of what users experience. I have seen a lot of similar on the web(just hit up Google and you as well will see a lot). Not everyone is technically competent, as you probably know(fix problems). But my sincere opinion is that such like this below should have been avoided in any OS. If users experience problems with drivers who work before and already have.... Let the man try them before M$ start on to force on problem drivers... He could afterwards just open Win Update himself, click and choose the one he want to try. Not be forced on trash... And, yeah Telemetry is another matter A lot must be changed before this new pastel colored Cartoon OS is something all want.

 

Yeah no, not when me and my friends are all having the same issues across multiple platforms. I had issues before creators update like losing the wallpaper on my desktop repeatedly but that didnt hinder usage. It was just a "really I thought I wouldnt have to deal with this" kind of item.

Gaming mode introduced an issue where you lose your mouse in game because reasons.

Night mode also renders games unplayable.

It also removes panel overclocks across the board. AMD and NVIDIA.

I didnt say Windows is garbage, even though they seemingly want me to, I just wish that some more QC went into what they do. It just seems stupid for me to have to disable all these new features to retain full functionality of my computer.

I may reinstall Windows 7 at some point, but for now I am looking into Linux with GPU passthrough with Windows 7 for my future needs. Just waiting on when I get the proc needed to enable VT-d and when I finish university work.