So when is HDMI 2.0 supposed to "arrive"?

Since I have a 4K TV now, I am refusing to buy a new notebook until they have HDMI 2.0 ports. Is this a 2015 proposition or any chance there will be something this year? It's been almost a year since the spec was finalized.

 

Why did you buy a 4k TV? I can understand a monitor but a TV with HDMI only input is just crazy.

 

Why not? They are pretty affordable now. I use a 49" one as my monitor with my desktop PC. And I'll probably get another for the living room soon. They really are awesome.

I'm also in the market for a new notebook but I'm not going to buy one with outdated HDMI 1.4.

Since no one besides Panasonic is putting DisplayPort on 4K TVs it's HDMI 2.0 or bust.

Just seems the PC industry is really dragging their feet on supporting it.

 

Does the TV have HDMI 2.0? that's the question.

 

Yes: LG 49UB8500: 49" Class (48.5" Diagonal) 2160p Smart w/ webOS 3D Ultra HD 4K TV | LG USA

Frys/Microcenter have/had it for ~$900 or so.

 

1.4 is NOT oudated but current ! and it DOES support 4k 30fps ..!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
why u want it so much ?? higher number ??? write it down NUMBER 2 on cable u probably will be happy .... jeezzz
by the way for hdmi 2.0 laptop u gonna wait two years ?
Good Luck

 

People want HDMI 2.0 (or DisplayPort) because 4k60 is a useful and desirable feature when working with 4K displays...

 

whats problem 4k 30 ?? NOBODY USES 60 mate .. and wont be any time soon ..
You not EVEN using FHD 1080p 60 but 30 ... and u happy

The paradox is that all holywood movies runs at cinema 24fps ..
And that stupid tru -motion which implements in new TVs is just disgusting !
I never turn on, it looks like move is done in some studio or it looks like real talk show eg jimmy kimmel or somethin ..
Holywood did implement FILM EFFECT on purpose which makes very slight motion tearing resulting movie as should be!
With 60fps u can just watch your TV series or youtube short vids ..
Oh maybe even not bcos youtube not even started 60fps properly !!

 

Only if this is a console forum.~

 

I want HDMI to die. Due to HDCP copy protection. Which is defective by design.

 

other types of cables allows to copy ?

 

Are you high? Or just bad Engrish?

 

@octiceps
cut it out ..

 

BTW I'm running 1080p @ 103 Hz on my laptop.

 

I hope you've had fun while it lasted but I also kinda hope that you can keep it polite.
I've deleted a few posts and quite frankly I could have deleted a few more and no vital information would be lost in process.

 

So still no HDMI 2.0 with the 9xxM's? lol

 

Hmm the new notebooks should have it.. Not sure but it should be there..

 

When intel decide it is part of the chipset requirement

 

I hope everyone buying new 9xxM notebooks realizes they won't be getting HDMI 2.0 with them. Otherwise there's going to be a lot of whining from false expectations, based on the desktop GPUs having it but not notebooks.

 

Yeah, that's funny, isn't it? The cards support HDMI 2.0, but these manufactures want to jump into the market so quickly that none of their products have I/O to support it, lol.

 

Its actually not HDMI 2.0 that you should be waiting for, rather, the new USB system that is poised to be the sole port across the industry. Once that take off, it will be adaptable to carry all current systems save Thunderbolt. Which is in a stagnant class all by itself.

That said, HDMI 2.0 is already here but it is imperative that you read the fine print to make sure you get what you expect. Just because it says HDMI 2.0 does not mean it passes all of the data. It must also include HDCP 2.2 or you will be up the creek without a paddle for a lot of content which simply will not play on your system.

Keep in mind that these things operate as a chain, and every piece of the chain must be HDCP 2.2 compliant for it to work as expected. No one is going to release their 4k content without some manner of protection.

 

Some people just want to run their desktop and play their games at 4K/60Hz without color degradation, and for that you need HDMI 2.0 unless your monitor/TV has DisplayPort (very rare on 4K TVs).

 

I don't want no 4K, I even refuse buying Blu-Ray. HDCP is why. Unless all your gear is the standard the MPAA wants, it does not play nice. I want the MPAA defunct soon. I want to choose how I watch my HD. Defective by Design HDCP is.

 

Hating the MPAA is a really strange reason to not want 4K (the resolution).

 

Imagine you are a content creator and you invest large amounts of money and copious hours of your valuable time creating content for profit.

Now imagine someone coming along and pirating that content for free? Or even worse, selling your content for a profit. How happy would that make you?

MPAA is far from perfect, but unless you have a better idea to prevent piracy, that's what we're stuck with for now.

Incidentally, the amount of copy protection control depends on the content creator. That is, the less active the pirates are to copy your content, the less active the restrictions will be.

You missed my point. Same technological advancement, just focus on one universal port.

 

HDCP must die, as does the MPAA. HDMI must be replaced. DRM must not get in the way of legitimate users needs, unless the MPAA want to buy many of us their defective by design hardware with their abominable DRM every time it changes in any way it gets made useless. Piracy would be reduced vastly if screener DVD and Blu-Ray discs were eliminated. Which is how so many movies get leaked to the net. Make the movie critics voting on the Oscars go to the theater. Nuff Said. DRM must not interfere with legitimate user's needs or those who wish to use open source OS. MPAA, you are obsolete. Quit picking on those who buy legitimate discs and content. Go after the pirates with all you have. Every user they annoy, either pirates (to be able to watch it on what they want) or does not buy. Treat users better.

 

And they prevent it now, how? lol. They punish legit customers and pirates get what they want/need anyhow.

 

The game industry went through this a few years back. The film industry ought to take a page out of that book.

 

yea I was confused too, but at least the tv itself has the proper ports

 

No, not them...criminals. Content provider would prefer to have no piracy devices at all. What would you do?

 

Still no news on this. Don't buy a new notebook until they have HDMI 2.0, IMO.

 

So let me get this straight.. Does HDMI 2.0 have a new design for the port or as long as you have a HDMI 2.0 GPU and HDMI 1.4 ports your'e sorted? Or is it the case you need to have HDMI 2.0 ports and HDMI 2.0 GPU to get it to properly work?

 

Not just HDMI 2.0 but HDCP 2.2 as well. You won't get 4K without it.

Same design (port) on the outside. Dramatically different functions on the inside.

Well it can be applied across the board. So you can run, but you cannot hide.

 

The HDMI 2.0 suppose to be here already in 2013-2014 ... but no ..

instead there will be new cable but called super MHL ..

CES: MHL Consortium Unveils superMHL Specification With Support for 8K Videos | NDTV Gadgets

AnandTech | MHL Consortium Announces superMHL: New Standard & New Cable To Drive 8K TV

 

Piracy isn't the issue, being able to watch what I want to watch on the OS and hardware I want is the issue. I buy legitimate discs. No Linux support or older monitor support to the best of it's abilities (without being dumbed down to 480i, no buy Blu-Ray, no buy 4K) Hollywood is the problem. HDMI needs to die. Simple! HDCP is why. MPAA needs to be out of business. Or not interfere with the needs of legitimate users.

 

The just released EUROCOM P5 Pro and P7 Pro laptops have HDMI 2.0.

Didn't even need to wait a year for it ! Yet another first for Eurocom too!

 

With HDCP? With new technology comes new rules and many manufacturer are reluctant to move forward until they're sure they can adhere to it. Just be sure and check the fine print. HDMI 2.0 is pretty useless without it.

 

So these use full TDP desktop CPUs right? Is the Intel mobile chipset the reason there is no HDMI 2.0 with mobile CPUs?

Kind of cheating IMO

 

Can it be that those two machine don't have optimus/switchable graphic and get to escape from Intel dirty hand.

Every Intel hdmi port won't be 2.0 soon

 

Just to mention guys
MHL and super mhl is just hdmi yeah but supports fully 8k
My tv supports hdmi(MHL) but not super mhl...
Mhl supports up to 4k


http://beta.techradar.com/news/phon...nd-why-do-you-need-it--1209802/2#article-body

 

xkcd: Standards

Also current MHL (3.0) only does 30Hz at 4K, same as HDMI 1.4. HDMI 2.0 is all about dat 60Hz.

 

But hdmi 2.0 wont support 8K just super mhl will..
Since then there will be only 60Hz..
They will discontinue 30Hz..

You dont need to explain to me..
explain to them who asks..
Firstly ppl wants to know about hdmi 2.0
Hz comes second..

think.com

Heres all 2.0 support..

 

Yes With HDCP !

Yes they use full TDP desktop CPUs (Socket LGA1150).I don't see it as cheating, just breaking through another barrier/wall .

 

I agree with Steve... It's really intel's fault for not making their notebook chipsets have these same levels of HDMI, USB as their desktop ones...

 

It is simply bcos intel knows that 90% of laptop users WONT use this interface so deeply and detaily.. so they making it just basic..

 

Dude really? I use HDMI every week and I know a lot of people who do.. Also with 4K Tv's being increasingly out there and cheaper (a 40" LG smart 4k TV is like £449) it's stupid that Intel has been so slow... Hopefully my next laptop doesn't have this problem..

 

Hello all,

even though the HDMI 2.0 standard will theoretically support 4K resolution at 60 Hz, and the laptop has an HDMI 2.0 port, it will still depend on the OS and the graphics card used.
For example, a laptop with a HDMI 1.4 port and Intel HD 4000 graphics running on Linux can go up to 2560x1440 at 30 Hz (so anything above 30 fps you will not be able to see anyways, unless I am making a mistake here).
Source: 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 via HDMI - NotebookCheck.net Tech

Something similar holds also for DisplayPort. Having a DisplayPort 1.2 port you can theoretically attach multiple displays to a single port, but Ubuntu Linux does not support this currently.
Souce: How do I know if I will be able to daisy-chain monitors? (connect two monitors to 1 DisplayPort) - Ask Ubuntu

edit:// if you google around you will find similar issues with DisplayPort as well. For example: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74266.
Using whatever graphics card, and whatever OS, I think we can only be sure that 1920x1200 at 60Hz is currently the highest guaranteed value one can get.

 

I use HDMI too every day ..
I have Acer Iconia W700P connected to my LG TV all the time via Micro HDMI to HDMI
Then digital optical cable goes from TV to my Logitech Z5500's ..
But from weird reason I cannot get dolby digital from Virgin TiVo Box..
Previously I had different older LG TV and dolby was working.. hmm
Didn't try dolby or dts from my tablet yet...

This is picture taken from MSi GS70 2QE .. Very nice laptop it supports 4K via HDMI and via Mini DisplayPorts too

 

I was all poised to get the new MSI GT80 Titan (SLI-009) gaming-laptop monster with its 'dual' Nvidia GTX 980M graphics cards at 8GB each (16GB total); however I immediately backed down when I found out that it will only come with the now outdated HDMI v1.4. It also has two Display Ports, but these are further disappointing because they are only v1.2 and not v1.3 Display Port. What on earth is going on?

HDMI v2.0 was officially released Sept 2013. The MSI GT80 Titan's dual GTX 980M internal cards in SLI at max 8GB each can and will output most games at anywhere between 100 and 200 fps with Max/Ultra settings at 1080p and close to that at 4K with lowered graphics quality settings, or 60 plus fps with high settings. Therefore HDMI v2.0 is a must for the minimum acceptable and comfortable 60 fps. I've experienced 4K at 30Hz refresh for a dire 30fps and it is dire on the eye.

Although 60Hz is more comfortable on the eye and the general minimum accepted; 120Hz refresh is where it's at and I believe this is where Display Port v1.2 is also outdated and v1.3 is needed to get 120Hz refresh (for 120fps gaming) for the more serious PC gamers and for real eye candy.

I agree with a previous poster that the current large screen LED's are better in that they give great picture at a more affordable cost and best of all you can supersize your display for a fraction of the cost. I use a 42 inch LED TV on my desk shelf and I wouldn't go smaller. I had recently returned a current model and superb 55 inch 4K Bravia LED TV within a few days because 4K at 30Hz only looked terrible and strobe'y when using with my computer, which was a shame as the detail with 4K is fantastic and definitely the way to go.

 

This is incorrect.

The 24 fps work well for theater projection. TV is something totally different. The two technologies were developed separately and don't match natively. The transition process can get by at 30 fps, but fast motion will show its limitations.

Its a meaningless frame rate that doesn't conform to anything. Its basically there because it can be. Not because its needed or useful.