Socket P Motherboards availability?

Any decent boards that support socket P chips ie. P8600.
The only one I have found is the JETWAY JNC64-LF from newegg which gets pretty bad reviews. I have an extra 2gb sodimm ddr3 chip laying around as well as a P8600chip. Looking to maybe built a mini-server with low power consumption in mind.

Thanks.

 

I have the Jetway NC64-LF. I am typing this on it right now. It is actually very good.

Edit: I just added a newegg review, but it isn't showing up yet. Some of those other newegg reviewers are idiots.

 

trottel...i have a few questions if you don't mind answering....
1. what cpu cooler are you using?
2. does your north bridge overheat (dt the nvidia onboard)?
3. does ur hd have to be sata? would ide work?
4. im assuming an atx case would fit?

 

The one that comes with the motherboard. It's all copper and a little small, but it works.

Hot yes. Overheat no. Even caseless without any airflow it is fine. In a case with moving air it will be golden.

Yes. No. There are 5 internal SATA and one eSATA connectors. There are no IDE connectors.

Yes, it would.

 

thanks for all the info man. im gonna go ahead and buy one.

 

on newegg it doesnt show the hsf for the cpu.

 

Trust me, it is there. I bought mine from Newegg a few weeks ago.

 

Thanks for all the info Trottel.
Have you tried to do some light gaming with the onboard nvidia chip?
Just wondering if it would be able to handle games like SC2 or WOW at a decent resolution.

 

No, I haven't at all. I installed a separate card. As it stands it is a very weak GPU. It has 16 CUDA cores. It might be able to play some games with low minimum requirements if you install Kingston Hyper X memory at 1333Mhz and low timings, install a good heatsink with a fan on the northbridge, increase the GPU voltage in bios, and overclock the core and shaders via Nvidia System Tools. The last time I've seen integrated graphics that were capable of playing all the current games was in 2003 with the Nvidia Nforce2 IGP for AMD Athlon XP processors.

 

I will be likely putting this set up together probably in the new years. The set up will be intended for use as htpc/server box. Since it already has hdmi out, I'm not sure if I will run an external video card at this point. I do have a 3870x2 sitting around as well as an extra 180watt secondary 5 1/4" PSU for it. The only problem is that I would likely have to get a mid tower case to make it all fit and I'm not sure if I will go that route.

 

They do sell plenty of good half-height video cards you could use if you want to game with it and keep it in an ITX case, but you would be paying a premium for the small form factor.

 

I use a Radeon 5570 in my combination HTPC/gaming PC, and it's capable of playing modern games if you're not going to do 1080p or higher resolutions. It's half-height, relatively inexpensive, and has very low power consumption, so it's perfect for your application.

 

Sorry to revive a 2 month dead thread but I just picked one of these up and rather than start a new thread for a motherboard I doubt more than 2 people on here besides myself have I thought I would just use this one.

Quanger I can also confirm it comes with the heatsink/fan. I made the mistake of ordering one, based off newegg reviews, then got the motherboard and it was there so now I have 2. If you don't get one I'll hook you up they are like $10 mini units but they do the job great. I had a P7570 @ 2.8GHz 8.5x333 no voltage mod and it never cracked 60oC

My question though is for Trottel. Did you have any issue with the onboard video? Not heat wise, though it is hot I bought a heatsinkfan to address that as well. My problem is that it will only display the initial boot but as soon as Windows goes to initialize the video it powers the system off.

If I plug in this 8600GT I have lying around everything works great. I can then install Windows, game, etc all with no issues and had run cpu burn in for a good 4 hours.

Was wondering if there was maybe a bios setting or one of these many jumpers needs to be adjusted or if your onboard video worked right out of box. I am still in RMA period but that is a hassle I would rather avoid if it is something easy.

Great concept though I will gladly RMA a few if I have to, this is perfect for my carputer project.

Oh yeah another curious issue, it will not run my PC10700 at 1333. It will run it up to about 1200 then it won't POST. If I try to manually configure memory timings according to manufacturer spec not all of the settings can go that high. I don't know if auto is capable of setting the latencies to match what the memory calls for. That is my theory but was hoping for some input before I send it back in. Doesn't seem like there are a lot of people out there with this board but you seem to be the most informed of the comments I have seen.

 

Funny you mention this, but I have the exact opposite problem. If I take out my graphics card, the onboard video works fine. If I put the card back in, I need to clear the bios to get any output from the card. It seems a bit temperamental in that regard. What is also odd is that if I disable the on-board video's memory, I can get issues where I can't get any output from either display on some reboots unless I clear the bios. So I just leave that to default and it doesn't seem to matter anyway. I have never been able to get the onboard video and the external video to work together at the same time, but I don't think it is supposed to be capable of that anyway. I never touched any of the jumpers for the various display options, but I think the booklet tells you how it should be from the factory and how it should be set for just the hdmi and vga output.

Totally forgot about this, but yes, I do have the same exact problem. Upping the voltage lets it boot up for me with timings set to auto. However, I just set timings pretty loose (as far as the options allow for a couple, like you mentioned), increase the voltage, but have it set to run at 1066 in the bios. I overclock in Windows and the memory gets up over 1333 anyway, and all seems to be well. Memory frequency and timings don't really affect performance so I never spent a whole lot of time on it and have things set pretty conservatively. Like you, I have a strong suspicion that auto timings at 1333 don't fully get the looser timing options as specified on the spd.

 

Hi guys, any news about this mb?

My plans are got one, just must find how get it to Europe from newegg

Have another question, where get better cooler for quad mobile cpu?

CoolerMaster EPN-41FCS-01 is out of stock

Server / Embedded Cooler -> Intel -> Pentium M 478 - Cooler Master

 

For a low power small form factor PC, I think you should probably get a Sandy Bridge processor, or maybe even a dual core Nehalem. Cost wise it would be about the same as acquiring this motherboard, the ram, and a Core 2 Quad, but the newer processor is going to be more powerful and more power efficient. This motherboard does have a leg up in some areas such as being able to be run directly off a 12v DC power source I believe and a few other options, and it is also in the mini-ITX form factor which is hard to come by anyway, but for the price and considering it is 2009 tech in 2011, I think you can do better if you are starting from scratch.

 

yup the sandybridge are better but they are also quite a bit more expensive. I'd only go with this platform if you already have a spare cpu and ram and a case. Otherwise, there is very little incentive. I will be installing my old 3870x2 and attempt to game on it, im sure it will fair well.

 

SB motherboards at shops are still with intel failure Sata2 controller.
I will waiting some time.
Nevermind, x9100 its on the way, i need cheap and good mb for testing it.
Jetway looking ok.

Are yo usure i got cpu cooler in package from newegg? Because another buy at at ebay store mitxpc123 can extra cooler for 20$

 

comes with a cpu cooler. gauranteed.

 

I swear to god.

 

I will also throw down a promise that the heatsink/fan comes with the motherboard. While it does come with a HSF it is not very robust at all and I found one that has about 2x the copper and 2x the fan of the stock cooler.

Dynatron I61G is compatible with the JNC64 motherboard.

I also bought a Sunon 40mm fan to couple with the more robust heatsink.

Only going so nuts with the cooling because I'm thinking about how brutal a Vegas summer day could be until the car cools down, not sure how much this will even help, if the surrounding air is hot a fan won't do much besides move hot air around.

 

if anyone has one of these they want to sell, LMK...

 

any of which? I have a heatsink/fan I could sell, the stock one on the bottom left of picture though why anyone would need to buy the one that comes with the motherboard I will never know. Other pics are of the Dynatron I61G heatsink next to the stock one and the Sunon fan I mounted on the Dynatron I61G



Sorry my camera sucks but you guys get the idea, there are actually a couple options for heatsinks on these guys but they are all based around 1 of 2 heatsink designs combined with 40mm fans. Initially I thought that there was only one option.

 

Finished Dynatron I61G heatsink, Sunon fan mounted on motherboard
Used I61G fan on Thermaltake northbridge heatsink

Also to make people aware, I did RMA my motherboard and the replacement does the exact same thing with the video. Not sure what the problem is, I need to try something other than Win7 64 bit if it's not that then I don't know what the problem is. As you can see in the pic I bought an Nvidia 210 low profile card basically was willing to make the sacrifice due to the end height of the Heatsink/Fan combo.

The motherboard and hard drives are going to get mounted in my dash somewhere. Hopefully there is a gap big enough and convenient enough to mount it there. I am planning on combining it with Xenarc 12.1in roof mount touch screen monitor for full Carputer action! Will post more pics when that happens but for now this shows how the motherboard looks with maximum air cooling setup. It looks like it would still fit in a HTPC case with the cooling setup I have though I do not have an HTPC case to verify. I would say that without the Sunon fan it would fit for sure.

Also that Sunon fan is going to be kind of loud. Only reason I am willing to deal with it is the sound of the motor and muffling of dash will hide it but I would not suggest it for HTPC as it would be somewhat noticeable. For HTPC the Dynatron I61G as it comes should be pretty good.

 

sry, I meant the motherboard...

 

FFCBairn" Very nice solution. If you got Dynatron I61G for 10$ is it nice. Usually is for 20$ :-(
Sure is fully compatible this Dynatron with P socket HSF? No any home made work needed? Heatsink looks pretty big than stock Jetway.

I guess any of 40 mm fan will be loud. Shame that we can't mount bigger HSF with 60 or 70 mm fan
This 40x40 fan and little HSF bring me back before 4 years
My last mobile solution has 70x70x40 HSF with 70 mm fan, Aopen YDG-975XA + Core [email protected].

Edit:
I guess this cooler is the right way for this mb

 

Finally i have motherboard.
I see, that (not only), but big problem is find case for this mini mb. 17x17cm is very small form
I wanna use normal profile Vga card with passive cooling and ATX12V psu, not some little loud crap.

I don't know exactly now if is possible get some Minitower with holes for my mb, ( 15.5x15.5cm). Maybe i will make new holes for motherboard.

Cooler for cpu was included

I wanna try it alive without case only with ATX12v psu, but don't know if is possible. Some mb has start butons.

Any ideas guys?

 

I'm reeeealy thinking about getting one of these, but I'v it looks like my q9100 is going to sell.

my plan would be to do something like this...
Mineral Oil Submerged Computer; Our Most Popular Custom PC

 

System alive. The chipset heatsink is pretty damn hot, much more than cpu cooler, lol. I thinking about better cooling. Also cpu cooler is small for my x9100, temperature at bios is about 60-70°C. The same thinking for better cooling. I guess this cpu is not ideal for Mini ITx mb
Little disappointing from cpu low voltage. The lowest voltage is 1.054 V? Not good for that.

And most of ATx case have holes for mini ITX.

Next result later.

Edit: Hr 05 Ifx doesn't help very well for cooling cpu at full load at oc. I guess over 50w TDP will at 3.5 Ghz @1.3v and after few minutes Orthos load temperature rasing over 80°C. So i came back to stock cooler and underclock. Now thinking about another solution and better cpu cooler like Dynatron I61G, shame not available here.

 

Update and any news.
What a wonderful cpu i have, shame its Co steep ( little hot )
Damn overpowered compare X9100@3466Mhz vs [email protected].

With new "home made" cooler temperatures raises down over 20°C :yes:

Heatsink is from Thermaltake Spark7 - but very hard modded, dimensions:
heatsink : 60x50x35- pure cooper, weight 200g
fan: cooler master 60x60x15 (will be replaced for bigger and low noise fan)
Over 5 h work.

Heatsink been make by Dynatron I65G -passive cooler 50x50x26mm, w-203g.

 

Work in progress

 

Very nice work.

 

Push the limits ....

 

Nice. You've got yourself a little beast.
I've been using mine strictly as an HTPC so just basically playing movies, downloading, watching shows online etc.

 

Thank you guys.

Now its time for slow down.

Cpu changed is P8400. This cpu is pretty cool.
P8400-25w TDP vs X9100-44w TDP is like heaven and hell

Power goes down, but temperatures with stock cooler are very impressive.
Idle around 30°C, load 1 core 47°C, Orthos dual core load under 60°C.

With stock cooler temperatures decrease over 20-30°C then with x9100.

Compare power consumption:

[email protected]

Idle x9100 - 1600mhz @ 1.000v - 30.5 W

Load 2x cpu - orthos - 1.150v - 66w


[email protected]

Idle 0.8750v - 800Mhz - 6x133 - 27w

Load Superpi 1 [email protected]@1.1250v - 39w

Load Orthos @2.26Ghz @1.1250v - 50w


For compare yet picture stock and home made heatsink

 

Great work Ex.treme!
I'm going to have to mod a heatsink like that too.
Bought an used MSI socket 479 mini itx that didn't come with a backplate or cpu cooler. MSI also decided to be quirky and use a proprietary size mount.
So the distance between the center of the mounts is 45mm vs the standard of 42mm.

 

Ah glad to see this little thread continues to grow. Is it still the only source of info on this motherboard?

Whitrzac: I had never thought of submerging a computer in mineral oil like that. I am now thinking about a lot of crazy projects but specifically as it applies to this motherboard and my Carputer project, I intend to build a sealed plastic unit around the motherboard. The plastic will have 2 hose inlets which will feed to some sort of intercooler unit which could have an additional fan or cooling method. This could definitely present a solution to the problem I am going to have in regards to the temperatures inside a car during the Las Vegas summer.

 

See what I don't understand is why this is bing done with an htpc, when its socket p which is what our laptops use, and AFAIK no one has made a custom heatsink that good on a laptop...

 

Next level reached
I found max clock and got fastest (i hope) C2D Penryn mobile cpu - 4113Mhz.
Thanks belongs to unclewebb and his wonderful Throttlestop.
Lowered fsb to 257x16. Benchable, no prime stable. (at 17x266- [email protected] no signal). With C0 steeping i can't go away. (don't wanna use more than 1.4625v cpu)

Prime test:
Tested 30 min( no more time yet) Prime Stable at 3733Mhz@1,400v - 14x266 with max temp 75°C and modded AC Freezer 7 Pro (cooler for C2D cpu's socket 775 for 130w heat). 14.5x266 didn't work. 15x266 ( 4GHz) is little much for that cpu Prime stable.

I measured and discover, that with highest clocks and voltage over 1,4v under hard load with Prime are capacitors and other motherboard parts damn hot. I estimate thermal heat emission for cpu with the [email protected] 60-70w, whole system has 105w at full load. 35-38w idle.

This power defeated mine desktop computer with E5200@3750Mhz



System used for overclock:
Motherboard - Jetway NC64-LF
Cpu - X9100 extreme (stock 3.06Ghz)
DDR3- 2x2GB 1333 Zepelin ( clocked@1066)
HDD - 500Gb WD5000AAKS, Sata 7200rpm
PSu - Fortron GLN 350w
Artic Freezer 7 pro - hard modded , reworked for use on socket 478P with system to mount and clip by ex.treme copyright. Best fit and lowest temperature compare with stock cooler temp rising down about <40 °C at prime.
80 mm fan target on capacitors and mosfet's chips + Zalman Fanmate2
Little copper pasive heatsink used on chips near cpu
50 mm fan used on gpu chip

Answer for guys with extra graphics card. Can you overclock fsb 333 without problems? Because i overclock only to 285-290 fsb and then looks like IGP graphic core don't alow me away, signal errors and freeze.

Observation with Jetway NC64-LF:

At bios i can setup for DDR 1333 , but don't recommend, needed clr cmos. Stable was somewhere ~1200.
FSB with IGP on board was stable at bios somewhere 275, with nvidia tools at windows at 290 fsb, more can't go.
V core for cpu setup at bios are strange, never worked for my X9100, cpuz shows still 1.238v at windows.
With Nvidia System Tools i can't change any voltage at windows :-(
Only fsb, gpu mem+core clocks atc.

jalaj: think and make it heatsink for your needs. Is not hard, i wish you good luck.