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    Solve oversaturation problem on wide gamut screen

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by tommazzo, May 20, 2011.

  1. tommazzo

    tommazzo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello everyone,

    I would like to buy a Dell XPS 15 laptop with the 1920×1080 screen, which appears to be a wide gamut screen. I want the Windows desktop and all the programs, not just the color managed ones, to have normal, not oversaturated colors.

    Is there any way to do this properly? - for example by changing a setting in the NVidia drivers?
     
  2. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    You are going to have to profile the screen with the proper tool like a Spider, etc.

    Spending the $$$ on a screen like that and not using a profiling tool is a waste of that same $$$.
     
  3. tommazzo

    tommazzo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you for your response. I've never used a calibration tool, so correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the calibration will just generate a file that has to be loaded by the into the Color Management part of the control panel in Windows. This however doesn't change anything about non-color managed applications. How can I make sure that non-color managed applications look fine as well?
     
  4. TwiztidKidd

    TwiztidKidd Notebook Evangelist

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    Quick fix for this since you said it's a nvidia chip, right-click anywhere on desktop and go to "nvidia control panel". I've attached a couple of pics of what the settings are supposed to look like. Digital vibrance slider seems to affect saturation the most, normally this should be set to 0% , the color format should say RGB. Internal display and each external display are configured separately, so you need to re-open this menu and check settings for each and every one of them.
     
  5. tommazzo

    tommazzo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks. However digital vibrance doesn't seem to take the specifications of the monitor into account, so I don't think that it's the most proper solution. Is there anything else that is known to work?
     
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    The 'problem' with wide gamut screens is that they will display every little bit of info you push to them, good and bad. This is why you need to get a proper ICC profile generated that the vid card driver can use to best effect.

    Thus the profiling via a scan device like a Spyder.

    It really isn't possible to reliably eyeball this.
     
  7. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Why would you possibly be expecting stock software to guess your LCD specifications??

    We told you about the RIGHT way to do it. Someone is telling you about a ' quick fix'.
     
  8. TwiztidKidd

    TwiztidKidd Notebook Evangelist

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    An EDID override will work which involves creating a new profile for your display using the existing profile. It's not exactly easy but it can be done.
     
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    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    No it's not. It's way better to have an uncalibrated super-wide-gamut screen with a high resolution than to have a terrible low-gamut screen with low contrast and a low resolution.

    I never calibrated my RGBLED display, and that's because I don't need to. I got it because of the resolution and because I didn't want the CCFL-backlit 1920x1200 display. I like the saturation but it's more of a side bonus. I didn't want to have to deal with the dimming and color shift over time of CCFL bulbs.

    EDIT: I'll calibrate it later if I have the chance to use someone's Spyder 3, but to me the screen is worth the money but the calibration isn't. If I calibrate it, it will have to be for free.

    Whatever you do, don't get the 1366x768 display on the XPS 15.
     
  10. tommazzo

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    Thank you guys.
    Does calibration with a tool like Spyder solve the problem for all applications or only for color managed ones?
     
  11. PaulRivers

    PaulRivers Notebook Consultant

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    You know, I have the same question as the OP. The difference is that I *have* run a color calibration tool on a laptop, and as the OP said, it only affected color managed applications - didn't fix thumbnails, desktop colors, or colors in Internet Explorer browsing the web.
     
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    Look closer at the advanced tab in the color management applet (control panel).

    There is plenty of on-line documentation for the settings there.
     
  13. GP-SE

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    I have a Spyder2 Express, and using the supplied software it creates an ICC profile for windows colour management, and also it changes the colours for everything (desktop, icons, IE, etc.).
    When I start my computer the spyder2 software loads and says "calibration succesfully loaded into video card" and I can see the colours change. (for everything).
    So if you buy a spyder, just install the software (I went to datacolors website for the latest) and it'll launch on startup to load the ICC profile