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    Super Batteries

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by cridgit001, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. cridgit001

    cridgit001 Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry if this has already been posted but would be really cool if it coincided with the Montevina launch. I dont know how many people know about the new Lithium batteries but they have achieved 10x the capacities of current lithiums without changing sizes. They used nano tubes inside the cells. Anyway i think it would be so amazing to a laptop that now gets 1.5-2.0 hours of battery life to 15-20 hours. That would be a milestone. Whats really interesting is from what i have read, there arent any techonlogy barriers and they have already done this Now its just getting production going and getting them into the market.
     
  2. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    It's old news, but I'm still not sure if it's just 10x more capacity, or 10x longer battery life.
    Either way, I wouldn't count on it any time soon. Plus I image they'd be extremely expensive.
     
  3. cridgit001

    cridgit001 Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, one of my friends dads works for hp in the laptop devision and he said that they got it a few days ago but it wont be ready for 2 years.
     
  4. DutyHunter

    DutyHunter Notebook Consultant

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    cant wait for it! we can clone but energy sources are are still a brick wall!
     
  5. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

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    Its not the fact that we can produce them. Its about doing it cost effectively for the masses and for the companies developing them. Cloning is not cheap.
     
  6. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    If you want super powerful batteries, look into A123. The company was founded by two chemical professors at MIT. They designed the best batteries in the world. They charge in very little time. They can charge at 100Amp hours, like a lead acid battery, with lithium ion counterparts. The batteries are what powered the infamous killacycle. They are some amaing batteries, they can be charged and decharged very rapidly because they act as ultra capacitors. This is good news for laptops because these batteries do not get hot with their platinum electodes, and carbon nanotube innards. These batteries will be able to power desktop replacements on a single cell with a DC inverter. We have a few A123 batteries in the RPI race shop, and one the size of a standard D battery can source 15Amps at 12V, which is much more than any entire laptop battery's cells.

    A123 batteries are only expensive, becuase they are being used in only applications such as racecars and airplanes, it will be a while before they are put into use in laptops.

    K-TRON
     
  7. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    Well we have seen what happens to a laptop, or in one case the cargo hold of a jet, when todays lithium technology goes wrong.

    Would not our laptops, with 10 times the battery rating of todays laptops, be consider Thermo Lithium Weapons? :laugh:
     
  8. PopLap

    PopLap Notebook Evangelist

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    its the same thing except i uses silicon instep of carbon.
     
  9. Jaycee8980

    Jaycee8980 Notebook Deity

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    Sorry if im a little late on this topic. But when you hear things like this. You always have to keep in your head. When will it be feasible for mass production. In this case not a good 2-3 years. I wouldnt be surprised if it took even more then that however. There are rarely ever technology leaps of 10x when it comes to things such as battery life, processing power or HD space in a time frame in 2-3 years so yes im skeptical about this being released to wide public anytime soon
     
  10. TrisTan 08

    TrisTan 08 Notebook Consultant

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    In 2 or 3 years time the power consumption will be 10 X what it is no with the size of the processors and graphics cards they will be putting in them, so no chance then! lol
     
  11. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah sure... :D

    Actually, notebooks have for the last few years stuck with running with 65W-120W AC adapters no problem. Only a few have used more or less. More wattage means more heat, which does not work with a laptop.

    What you are saying is that in 2-3 years, we'll have notebooks that NORMALLY use 450-1200W of power! Not gonna happen, especially since we see desktops drawing this much power and having trouble dissipating it...let alone laptops.

    What is really going to happen is that we'll get smaller batteries, probably 5-10 times smaller. So we'll see battery life stay the same, or maybe double, but batteries get smaller so that laptops get lighter and/or fit more in them.
     
  12. PopLap

    PopLap Notebook Evangelist

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    i agree a 1200w laptop would be crasy + CPUs and GPUs are getting better Preferments per watt and will only get better.
     
  13. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    Either way...the potential something like this has for laptops is amazing.
     
  14. Jaycee8980

    Jaycee8980 Notebook Deity

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    I think that guy might have said it wrong I think he meant processor power. But i could be wrong ;)