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    T2500 Running Too Hot?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by iamapato01, May 1, 2006.

  1. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello again,
    I just installed NHC for my 8204 and it said my processor was at 52C and harddrive was at 40C. I have had it on for about 3 hours, and just played 20 minutes of Americas Army. The ambient temp in the room is about 70F.

    Isn't this really hot? My desktop has a P4 2.8Ghz HT and even after playing an intense game for a while, it gets up to about 41C, then cools right down to 36C and hovers there. The area around the front right of the laptop is kinda warm now.

    Question: There is only one fan on the laptop? I am aware of the big one on the right, but there a a few vents on the bottom. I figured there would be more fans, my desktop has about 5.

    After typing this message and doing nothing for 10 minutes, the fan slowed significantly on the laptop and the NHC is showing 50C. I just dont want my new laptop to blow up!
     
  2. CoolHotCold

    CoolHotCold Notebook Evangelist

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    my laptops been on for 14hours 15 minutes and 46 seconds.
    Been playing C&C Zero hour for afew hours, browing etc. general stuff and leaving it to idle.
    Hard drive temp is 43C
    CPU temp is under 30C
    For me i'm happy. Nice and cool with hardly any fan noise.
     
  3. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    What does that mean about mine? Is 52C too hot? Am I going to break something?
     
  4. dudesdudets

    dudesdudets Notebook Deity

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    52C is not too hot, but not cool either.
    If you want to keep your laptop cool, just set the power option to Laptop.
     
  5. ghsoccer4

    ghsoccer4 Notebook Consultant

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    52 is perfectly fine
    you should only get concerned if it starts to get over 62 or so
    you can set nhc to give you a warning at 60 and shut down at 65 or so
    its a good safety measure to keep it running smoothly
     
  6. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    I was watching the CPU speed and whenever it would go towards 55C, the cpu fan would go on faster, then it would virtually go off once it got to 50C in about a minute. Is there a way I can make it keep the fan on until it reaches, say 45C?
     
  7. ccbr01

    ccbr01 Matlab powerhouse! NBR Reviewer

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    Many notebook bios apps are programmed to run the fans only when needed to cool. This is what they call battery saving technology. For my Dell i9300, the latest bios (A05) makes the cpu float around 50c. The fan doesn't even kick on low until mid 50s. If you can find a program that runs the fans instead of bios, get it. For the Dell i9300, there is a program call i9kfangui that controls the fans, so instead of mid 50s, I run in the low 30s.
     
  8. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    Well, I wouldn't worry about your setup. 52 isn't bad at all, especially after gaming for a little bit. Running the processor at full bore will always bring up the heat. These processors are rated to be "operable" to over 70C!! We all know heat is damaging to a processor, so I'm not saying 70 is good...but you're not going to fry anything at 50C.

    Ghsoccer is right, once it gets to 60 or beyond, then there is cause for concern.

    To better manage heat you can download Notebook Hardware Control. This program monitors temps, allows you to set desired clocks for AC/battery operation, and lets you undervolt. Undervolting really helps you keep the heat down when the cpu is operating at full speed. It will also require your fans to run less, saving some battery life.

    To manage fans (not really recommended) you can try Speedfan. I say it's not recommended because you run a higher risk of heat damage if you make the wrong decisions. However, it is helpful to set the temps that the fan kicks in at. Especially if your being over-cautious and wanting the fan to run more than normal in effort to cool your machine.

    Desktops are much different in terms of cooling. Laptops are going to run warmer by design because there is so much less room for air to move. There is just not as much space in general to put extra fans or vents.
     
  9. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    Do you know if the ePower Management program included with my 8204 will underclock the processor? It has an option to lower the CPU speed, among other things. Would doing this lower the CPU temp?

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    Alright now I'm confused. First I am playing a game and exit, 5 minutes later, it goes to 60C. Then I check the speeds and it's at 2000mhz...see screenshot. Then I check it 5 minutes even later, and its at 1000mhz and 52C. Why is the processor speed changing?

    LOL it just went back to 2000mhz and I didnt do anything.
     
  10. dudesdudets

    dudesdudets Notebook Deity

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    to keep it cool and save power.
     
  11. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    It changes automatically?

    What about all these Acer programs that you can change the "CPU Speed" and "Enhanced Performance" modes. What exactly do they do?
     
  12. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    Ok I think I figured it out. My processor changes speed depending on what I'm doing.

    The fan goes on fast once it gets to 60C, medium at 55C, and slow until it reaches 50C, when it turns off. Therefore it is trying to keep the temp at 50C. Tada!
     
  13. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah, you may not be doing anything, but your computer does a lot in the background. What you are observing is called "speedstepping". It is the processor dynamically switching clock speed based on usage.

    As speed goes up, heat goes up....if you want the fan speed to cool it to a lower temp, pick up speedfan.
     
  14. Notebook Solutions

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    Sorry for off-topic but I play AAO too :)

    My name is Charlie da Silva from Peru :) Track me with aaotracker.com

    Charlie-Peru :)
     
  15. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    Nice I'm honor 32
     
  16. iamapato01

    iamapato01 Notebook Consultant

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    Doing nothing my laptop idles at about 52, and playing C&C Generals it goes up to 60-62, then the fan goes on full blast and gets it down into the 50's. I guess as long as its not blowing up then I'm fine. Even if it does blow up I have a 3 year warranty :)
     
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    Undervolting with RMClock makes a huge difference. My Acer sits at 49C idle on a cooler pad, 55C without, and can rack up to 72C under full load (ambient temps are high - 30-35C *breaks sweat) but using RMClock to undervolt brings my full load temp to 60C max, which can only be a good thing. Never even heard my fan at full blast :) Best utility I ever installed IMHO.
     
  18. Big-M

    Big-M Notebook Guru

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    how can a program measure the temp. ?