T7500 vs T7700

So I get to save $150 if I choose the T7700 over T7500... is this worth it? $150 for 0.2GHZ? I'll be doing gaming and photoshop and some video editing.

 

you mean the 7500 is 150 cheaper than the 7700 correct? if so then no i went with the 7500 which is even overkill..

 

Definitely not worth it. I would go as far as downgrading do a 7300. The money you save can be better spent elsewhere (more ram, faster hard drive) that will make a helluva lot more difference than a mere .2GHz

 

Bah....faster is better. Its only money. lol

Seriously - save your money. You will never notice the difference between the 7500 and the 7700.

 

Yeah, you won't even notice the difference between the 7500 and the 7300. Nor will you feel the difference between the 7300 and 7100 I bought the most future proof (EDIT:MAC) notebook out there and hoping to keep it for a very long time.

 

Yea unless benchmarking becomes an Olympic or professional competition you won't be able to tell.

 

Nah, you could probably go down to the T7300 even.

That would save you what....~$300?

 

Well, I'll say you might see a (very) little difference when you do something like editing large picture file (e.g. using lens blur on 10MP+ photos) or rendering videos.

But as I said, it may be only a few seconds difference, and it's your money to spend . . . .

 

As mentioned, the price jump from the T7500 (2.2 GHz) to the T7700 (2.4 GHz) is pretty outrageous.

You could reasonably go with the T7300 (2.0 GHz), but apparently there is a performance drop were you to decide to get the T7100 (1.83 GHz), since it has half the L2 cache (2 MB vs. 4 MB) than the models above it.

Here is a list of Intel Core 2 Duo processors (mobile and desktop) with all the specifics.

 

Between the T7300-T7700, most people won't notice a difference. The only time that little extra boost would do anything is in CPU heavy tasks. Even then, as others have posted, your money would be better spent on a new HD or RAM. Then again, you start to question, well when is there a difference? Also, as Uodnelome mentioned, there is, however, a noticeable difference once you loss the L2 cache.

 

Get a better HDD, Video Card, more ram, anything but that.

 

So I would be unlikely to notice anything in relation to playing games? Or are they generally graphics card heavy as opposed to CPU heavy?

Just noticed that Dell has started offering the T7700 (as of last night) on the Inspiron 1720s, and was wondering whether it would be worth upgrading from the T7500.

I take the point about the money being better off on the video card or ram, but I can't actually upgrade those any further!

But from the sound of it it's probably not worth going through the hassle of changing my order (yet again) with Dell. Although maybe by the time they actually get some parts and get through the backlog of orders to mine, they might have a 7200RPM hard drive to offer!

Helpful thread, thanks all.

 

and how bout the difference between a 7100 and a 7700?

while it's true that, at present, you won't feel a difference, in the future (towards the end of your laptop life ) the bit extra CPU-power could make the difference between being able to run something or not
imo, it depends on whether you're going to upgrade a lot (probably not the case with a notebook ). If you upgrade a lot, get the cheaper CPU. If you plan to use your system till it falls apart and then buy a new one: get the faster CPU (unless in case you want your system to 'fall apart' (MIND THE QUOTES) quickly )

 

Any difference. Nothing a little overclocking won't fix.

What programs are you refering to being not able to run in the future? If anything, by the time your processor is that outdated, your system memory will be the biggest bottleneck.

 

but then you could oc the 7700 as well
so that unfixes things

as for the memory: that just depends
i imagine running a query on a DB, one that will return only a few results but has to run on a gigantic DB, will feel the lack of CPUpower before it feels the lack of memory (speed or quantity)
no idea bout games, as some games tend to heavily use both CPU and RAM

 

The 7700 might actually OC BETTER than the 7100 since it has a higher multiplier.

However

there are so many better places an extra $300 will boost a laptop. Running a query on a gigantic DB (which happens often on laptops?) or how about putting 400 towards the best video card for your laptop and more memory.

In the lifetime of a laptop, an extra $300 of memory will shave far more time and not to mention battery power than an extra $300 to your processor.

Games are mostly CPU and GPU intensive. Ram intensive when the game first loads up or when maps first load up.

 

i have to disagree there
there are games (like <something with COMMANDER>), that crash because they need more memory than is available to them
while most games do of course run just fine on a computer with 1 or 2 GB, these games crash when they have 2 GB JUST FOR THEMSELF
there's some article about it on anandtech or some other site about it

 

some things are cpu intensive (probably not what you are doing)

matlab, mathematica, labview...

edit: i meant to say that it might be worth the cash if you were going to be using the above applications or similar heavily cpu intensive applications. you would know before you bought the machine that you would need to be using these.

 

We of course digressed from the whole point of is going from 7500 to 7700 worth $150. haha

 

@MC341: basically, everything that performs heavy calculations

@surfasb: just a bit ... everybody is trying to justify why/when it is (not) necessary to get this/that CPU

 

I just want to say, the clock speed of your CPU will not determine the longevity of your computer. It's possible that the architecture of your CPU will do so, however. It's quite possible that in 5 years time there's a program or game you want to run/play, that physically won't work on your T7100 because of the low cache, but would run on you're friends T7300/T7500/T7700. However, the clock speed alone will never cause a program not to run. The T7500 would just run 10% slower than the T7700.

Also, it is true that there are many uses that would make getting a T7700 worth it, however, in general, that would only apply to professionals who absolutely had to have their AutoCAD or Matlab or whatever run perfectly, because that's how they earn their living. For a student or a hobbyist, the T7700 will almost never be worth it. Even the T7500 would pretty much never be worth it.

 

Yea I got my hp with T7500, and my dad got it with the cheapest cpu and then upgraded to the t7700 and spent more money than me, and we cant even tell the difference.

 

So true. If you need a T7700 that bad, you'll know for sure because $150 isn't even an issue. It's either spend the $150 or no food on the table. haha

Something like 80% of laptops out there are used mainly for surfing the web. you could almost say for 80% of us.....

 

i have a t7300..and it is troubling me that I didn't order the t7500 for $50 more..should i even be worrying? thanks

 

It make sense think about the money when is $150.00 for just .2 GHZ, but on xoticpc.com or powernotebooks.com the difference on price when you configuring the machine Sager NP 5791 is just $85.00 is not that big so you can rethink and say why not. My opinion $150.00 is too much and remember something if you can't do something with the T7500 the T7700 will not make a miracle...

 

would the 200mhz difference would make a difference in a c4d rendering time? I'm still trying to figure out if the 150$ difference is really worth it...

 

Yes, it would make a difference in rendering time, probably up to 7-8% depending on your background processes. Whether or not that's worth $150 is up to you.

 

shaving 30 minutes of 4hr....yeah I'm getting a t7500 then...

 

I found moving from a old 2.16ghz T2400 to the 2.40ghz T7700 gave a nice speed boost in editing preview window and encoding time with video editing software.

I am partly satisfied with the T7700. Having a fast CPU was critical for me to speeding up previews of edited clips and then encoding them as i would have to do this many times back and forth. This all equates to a few more seconds less waiting in each edited section which adds up if your working on a big project.

That said the extra $300 price jump was the concern but i had allready maxed out all the other specs on the computer and decided to go all the way.

 

i wonder why there's such a big price jump...on newegg.com you can get a t7700 for ~$350, while a t7300 is around 260...only a $90 jump there

 

It's because they can. People who want the fast processor out there can afford to blow their load for this much money. Same reason why Dell charges $125 to go from 1 GB RAM to 2GB RAM. You can buy 2 x 1GB sticks for $50 at Fry's.

 

How much difference does the FSB speed make? I have a T7200 in my laptop and I thought it was identical to the T7300 until I read that chart linked earlier in the thread, and noticed that it is only a 667mhz FSB as opposed to 800 in the T7300/500/700...

 

it isn't a big difference

 

hi to all the notebook gurus out here..

i jus want to ask wud it make a big difference if were to choose T7500 during playing games?? Like some of em wont work with max capacities and all

 

The 7500 or the 7700 won't make a noticable difference in gaming. The bottleneck will be the GFX.

 

I agree with the answer "not much". I think the major reason is because the memory bus is still 667Mhz, if it was at 800Mhz I might have a different answer.

 

is there a difference when playing COD4?

 

No. You won't notice a difference between a T7500 vs a T7700 in COD4. If you're using your laptop for playing games, then you're better off putting your money more towards a faster video card, more RAM, and a faster hard drive.

Unlike the video cards in most laptops, you can usually swap out the CPU at a later time. So, when the prices on the T7800 or X7900 come down to Earth-like levels, then it'd be worth it to get it.

For gaming, look into a laptop that has a nvidia 8800GTS with discrete video memory (usually 512MB). That'll make the biggest difference by itself. Unless you plan on wiping and installing WinXP, you'll want as much memory as you can put into the laptop because of Vista's larger memory footprint.

 

hi guys ....
i have one simple question .. HOW IS T7500 IS BETTER AND COSTS MORE THAN T7700 WHEN T7700 IS 2.4 mhz WHILE T7500 IS 2.2 mhz ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
i have to choose beween HP dv2550 and HP dv2690 . dv2690 costs more because the processor is T7700 , and another thing ... are both of them santa rose processors ??? ( i ask that and i don't even know what is meant by santa rose )

 

The T7500 is better on the price/performance ratio,that's what people mean.
Yes,both are Santa Rosa CPUs.(santa rosa is a platform)
Go for the T7500, you won`t notice much of a difference upto 2.4 ...

 

Who in the world dug up this old post?

Get the T7500. it is what I have

 

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do they still sell 7700 and 7500? :')