T7700 667 FSB? Confused...

Just picked up a used computer that is an HP6910p. Brought it home and compared it to the 6910p that i already own and something seems a little odd. Just ran CPU-z to check the specs and the machine has what appears to be a T7700 but oddly the FSB is according to CPUz 667? I posted both CPUz pages one from my older 6910p and one from the new one...even under the specification it doesn't say Core 2 Duo, like my old one does? Is everything right? Updated with the latest bios as well.

OLD:


NEW:


Does everything look right or is something fishy looking?

Motherboard is the same in both systems according to CPUz.

Thanks all.

EDIT: also in windows under system properties it doesn't say core 2 duo like my original notebook but rather Genuine Intel (R) CPU.

 

I think it's because it's an ES-chip, you shouldn't be able to see the correct specs in windows if it isn't the latest ES-chip from that specific CPU-series, or maybe not even then.

But i think you're all fine, it is most certainly a 2.4GHz with 800Mhz core2duo T7700. That is if it really is a T7700.
What does BIOS report ?


Whoever had it before did an upgrade, that's for sure

 

Says (ES) : Engineering Sample at the end of the name. Those are not the final retail version of the chip, they are early test/beta chips. That could explain the lower bus speed. Notebook manufacturers don't put engineering samples in their notebooks, that means who ever sold you the notebook has done a CPU upgrade.

 

Motherboard is PM965. Didn't know what ES stood for. I guess that i should bring this back? It was sold to me on the assumption that it was a 2.0. But maybe a 2.4 at 667 fsb will probably still be faster? What do you guys think?

 

Do you have your latest BIOS? It may just be that the motherboard is having trouble identifying the ES chip...

 

2.4 and 667Mhz FSB is not possible with 12x multiplier, i just think CPU-Z is reading it wrong!

AFAIK ES-chips won't be recognized correctly in windows/any operating system.

What does BIOS tell you that the CPU is?

And no, why return it, it's still faster than your T7100 no matter what, even if the reading is correct, though i don't think so

 

I don’t quite understand what you are asking. If you are asking whether a 2.4GHz at 667MHz will be faster than your T7700 at 2.0GHz then yes it will be. But there are no 2.4GHz/667MHz Core 2 Duos (closest match is T7600 : 2.33GHz/667MHz); and you can't change your multiplier to get your current chip up to 2.4GHz either.
Clock speed has more significant impact on CPU performance than FSB.

Before returning it upgrade the BIOS as Commander Wolf suggested. Maybe it'll fix everything... But I'm surprised to find out that someone who is competent enough to do a CPU upgrade forgets to do a BIOS upgrade if there is one.

 

Perhaps some clarification, i'm just wondering if this ES T7700 that is only capable of running 2.0GHz due to it's crippled FSB would be any faster or slower than a normal T7300 that runs at 2.0 albiet with a lower multiplier and a higher fsb? Also, would running at a lower FSB affect the graphics performance any since i think this might affect the pci bus also...sorry it's been a while since i've been tinkering.

I did update the latest bios and the bios reads correctly at 2.0. I also tried to pin mod the thing but i was using the datasheet from a T7700 and the pin mod didn't do anything. It would be great to find the correct pins and give it a go...anyone have any ideas? I tried BSEL0 - VSS.

Here is the info taken off the actual CPU:

LF80537
C639G150 QWLG ES

 

Hey, look at the voltage! 1.4??? thats insanely high for an intel cpu, isn't it?

 

Yeah noticed that myself...not sure if that is normal. hmmm...i guess i need to figure out if it's the cpu that has a 667 fsb or if the notebook or bios is keeping it from running at full potential...i am assuming that it is the former since this notebook is configurable with a t7700...and i do have the latest bios.

 

it's definitely not normal. Either CPU-Z messes something up, or there is something wrong with the CPU itself. Wierd stuff

 

pygo post a pic of your mainboard tab

 

As requested:



The quest continues...i disassembled the unit and got the clock generator name and sent it to abo at setfsb...problems is he does not have the datasheet for this particular chip. Anyone have any ideas how to get a datsheet for this clock generator? If any one is interested and has the same notebook the part is: ICS9LPRS355BGLF

ICS 31A-931
0635
9LPRS355BGLF

 

For the third time, what does the BIOS report the CPU as!?
Or am i missing the part where you say that!?

 

Sorry must have missed that. BIOS states CPU as:

Genuine Intel (R) CPU @2.0

Bad news...abo cannot support clock generator in setfsb. I've been using NHC and it is reporting a temp of about 50C idle and 60C under load is this normal for this CPU?

EDIT: Also last night i got my first BSOD according to the dump file and my limited knowledge it seems to be a driver issue but i am unsure.

 

No problem hehe


Ah, too bad the BIOS also recognize it like that

60C under load is normal and pretty good i'd say. Though i think it's that "cool" because of the underclock from 2.4Ghz.
Normally you'd look at a load-temp around 70C depending on CPU and the cooling solution for your notebook.

What did the BSOD tell you? In 90% of the cases, blue screens are generated by bad drivers as you say. Have you installed any drivers recently on your notebook?

 

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/QW/QWLG.html

You definately have an ES T7700, odd that it doesn't want to run at 200mhz though?

 

Just wanted to say thanks for all your help. Sent unit back to seller and got an even better deal on a notebook with Penryn. =) After doing research i have discovered that there were a few 667FSB T7XXX produced as socket P...only engineering samples tho. Guess i got an odd one. Anyways, thanks a gabazillion for the help fellas.

*buys round of e-beers for all*

 

congrats on getting a penryn instead! =)