The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

Well, since I can't get what I really want, this is what I'm settling for.

The best buy HP g4-2235dx.
I'll take the A6 and pick up an A10 off fleabay, find another 830 or 840, and move the 8gb of 1600 from my DM1 over to this guy.
I promise to benchmark along the way.

 

Nice find Link4!

Its located in Palatine, IL? It would take a day at most to get to Chicago. tempting

 

Thanks, although I doubt it will be that quick, since something even in the same city takes like 2 days with free shipping. (Now payed shipping is a different story)
I don't know about other areas,but in the LA County region shipping isn't well organized. My mother ordered a lot of stuff from Macy's which is less than half a mile away and we have already had at least 4 (3 of them today) separate deliveries in the past 2 days.

 

Actually here it says estimated to be delivered between Nov. 30 and Dec. 6 (which is their way of saying that it may ship sometime within the next week.)

 

Great idea. That looks similar to the 14" ProBook I was looking at, although in the ProBook you can get the A10-4600M and 1600x900 screen with 8GB of RAM and 3-year warranty, but its $829 on HPs site preconfigured model.

This Lenovo 14" looks like what we really should be seeing more of with A10s, thin and serious looks. This one has the low voltage A8 so can't swap.

Oh, and I am jealous, your DM1z has an E-450

 

HP | AMD : PC Laptops - Best Buy

hey if you look at this list they have a lot hp with amd a8 process chip some are 17 inch or the 15 inch screen.

 

Another thing to sweeten the deal on a HP Trinity notebook: a free Nook e-reader with any notebook above 399$. Sometimes I wish I still lived in the US.

 

Regarding that g4 that i'm settling for...

I tried to contact HP support, but that doesn't go so well when you haven't bought the product yet: Does anyone know if these machines will be SATA II or III?

 

You are correct in that's why it gave me problems. Even with third party defrags to consolidate all the data physically on the drive, I was unable to shrink the partitions in such a way that the samsung transfer software could handle it. The EaseUS software transferred all the partitions over and shrank them appropriately to fit onto the SSD.

I'm okay with the price of the the raw APU. I'm settling for the g4 because nobody makes a 13" that uses the 4600m, and don't really want anything larger than the 14". I don't want the 4655m, or i'd probably go with the samsung. I'm okay with the build quality of the g4, and to be honest, like the aesthetics of the pavilion over the probook, despite having the option of the 1600x900 screen with the probook.
And since I'm comfortable with the APU swap, I see no point in going for the A8 of the lenovo.

TommyB0y, I was planning on selling the DM1 since this was going to replace it. Want it? I was going to put it back to the stock RAM, but sell it with the Intel SSD.

 

Nah, I am waiting for Jaguar cores and maybe a tablet notebook thing to replace the DM1z, like the 2000z used to be, but smaller and faster.

 

Personally I would just wait for the ASUS U38N if I was into a 13.3'' notebook. Sure it doesn't have the A10-4600M, but the 4655M isn't far behind. It's almost 2013, I would never buy a laptop with a resolution less than 1080p.

Wait, the g4 isn't even 13.3'', its a 14'' laptop with a weight of 4.8lb and a thickness of 1.4'' (heck that's thicker than my 6lb ASUS N56DP with a 15.6'' screen) but if you like the looks than go for it, but I would rather get the much lighter and thinner Samsung 14'' or the HP envy m6 which is at most 1'' thick. There is the refurbished old model http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Geek+Squad+Certified+Refurbished+15.6%26%2334%3B+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+Midnight+Black/6868343.p?id=1218810022525&skuId=6868343&st=hP%20m6&cp=1&lp=4(probably wasn't even sold and they fixed the cooling system and the vents) with windows 7 for $499, and the new silver model with windows 8 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+ENVY+15.6%26%2334%3B+Laptop+-+6GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Natural+Silver/6819205.p?id=1218808163771&skuId=6819205&st=hP%20m6&cp=1&lp=1 for $619, and its surely one of the best looking AMD laptops.

This things only weigh 5.3lb for a 15.6'' laptop and they both got an A10.
(top is a Dv6z, bottom is the m6)

 

A lot of us may not want a 1080p screen, especially at 13.3" or 14", and certainly not at 11.6". Not only because of how small things would be, but being able to render to the native resolution in video and games would be that much more difficult.

 

Priorities:
1) A10-4600m.
2) 13" - doesn't exist with #1. Yes, I know the 4655 does. But I'd rather go with the 14". Definitely not a 15".
3) Two memory slots. None of this mismatched soldered on and one slot, or no slot.
4) Price.

If I wanted a 15.6 then yes, those Envys at BB would be ideal, and a lot simpler.

The weight and thickness doesn't bother me in the least, if it means it's serviceable. For the most part, I carry it four times a day. from the house to the car and from the car to my office desk, then back the other way. No, I'm not planning on cracking the case open every other week.

I understand your priorities are different, and that's fine.

To be honest, if they were to put an A8-4555m ( 1W mroe than the e2-1800)into the DM1 chassis, I could settle for that, but that doesn't exist either.

Tommy, I was actually intrigued by the possibility of a 1080p 11.6, a la the unicorn-like UX21A, but you did raise a good point about rendering games at the native resolution.

 

Never mind, It seams like the Pavilion m6 wasn't the one with bad ventilation/cooling it was the g6 (wow so stupid that thing even though lighter than the dv6 is thicker, heck its even heavier and like 50% thicker than the m6 yet none of the other two had overheating issues)

 

well, I would settle for 1600x900, but I am not a big fan of 16:9 resolutions. I would personally prefer a 1680x1050 resolution to 1920x1080/1080p, on a 14" or 15.6". My 14" T400 is 1440x900, which I think would be great for an 11.6".

 

Is there even a laptop that's not a desktop replacement/workstation with a 1920X1200 resolution?
And as for 1440X900, that's the resolution of my main monitor. Sadly most games don't support it even though 16:10 is much more useful in games than 16:9, and videos above 720p look like crap on it.

 

I don't think there are any non-business laptops that are 16:10 anymore.

Edit: a quick newegg search turns up MBPs, MBAs, one thinkpad and a few toughbooks at 16:10 and under 17".

 

I know MBPs have 16:10 ar and i didn't find anything on Newegg with 16:10 screens other than tablets and laptops that had 16:9 screens.

A search on google brings brings a tone of core 2 - nehalem era overpriced business laptops lol.
The only exception to these are a couple of Fujitsu and Panasonic Toughbooks with sandy bridge.

 

CES is not that far away guys!

 

So what you're saying is wait a month for a bunch of demo products that will never hit the shelves in 3-6 more months?

 

In case anyone was considering the Samsung NP535U3C-A01US, Tigerdirect, and amazon (shipped from TD) have it for 479.

 

I've just ordered a DV6Z-7200 with a 2GB 7670m & A10-4600m - for a RAM upgrade would games be noticeably better with:

8GB of 1600mhz with CAS Latency of 9

OR

16GB of 1600mhz with CAS Latency of 10

Or would the difference be negligible ?

 

lol. True though, especially with AMD products lately.

Nice. I noticed though that the A8-4555m 14" version is $699 still and the Intel i5 14" is $599 now...

There would likely be about 5% IGP improvement in FPS with the faster CAS (9).

 

Nice, exactly the price what it worth and no more. When are they going to realize Samsung Series 5 NP535U4C-A01US also need cheaper price tag?

Where you seen A8-4555m version and Intel i5 for $599?

 

AMD just came out with their AMD branded RAM, and for DDR3-1600, they are actually pushing CL8 for the "performance" RAM. Thats for desktop APUs and CPUs though, and isnt even considered their highest level RAM.

I personally would never consider buying CL11, even for 1866 RAM. I actually just got 16GB (2x8) of 2133 RAM CL9 for my Vishera CPU. I may settle for CL11 though if its what came in a laptop that already had enough RAM.

 

As far as I know the $699 14'' Samsung uses A10-4655M not an A8.
Amazon.com: Samsung Series 5 NP535U4C-A01US 14-Inch Laptop (Silver): Computers & Accessories

 

Good news, it seams like the ASUS U38N is nearing release. ASUS has displayed it's VivoBook lineup in Ukraine, and there is also a mention of the U38.
Asus
The website is Russian but you can Google translate it, sadly though the slides are in Ukrainian (i can read and understand Russian, and even though Ukrainian is somewhat similar, I still don't understand most words, but I did see the word December in some of the slides).

 

I bought 16GB Geil 1600mhz CL10 from Ebay - a little cheaper than Newegg at the moment. Has a good review from a user with an A8-4500 equipped Toshiba L875D. Will give me a little bit more flexibility running VM's.

 

Oops, right, that A10. I was at work with my stupid slow connection and didn't bother to confirm. Here's the Intel version.

Amazon.com: Samsung Series 5 NP500P4C-S01US 14.0-Inch Laptop (Titan Silver): Computers & Accessories

It even comes with an Intel 630m.

 

I see, but check the pictures because NP500P4C is not thin laptop. This here what is competition of NP535U4C.

 

0.82in for i5-3317U
1.04in for A10-4655
1.23in for i5-3210m

Seems like the AMD is right in the middle, and you're talking ~0.2" (5mm) height difference both directions. Weight is a little more on the i5-3210m version, but it also has a dedicated 630m (hopefully bump that to a 640m soon). Weights are given as 4lbs and 5lbs. I'm sure that's an estimate otherwise they would have given more exact values. They could be within 0.5lbs (0.23kg) of each other.

 

I did not know that, I thought NP530U4C and NP535U4C are use absolutely the same body, therefore same thickness. Now I'm disappointed, NP535U4C is not so tempting anymore ... Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

 

Well looking at it, the 630m has a 3dmark11 of ~ 1170 where the A10-4655m is ~ 1030, so nearly close performance. If only it would accept 1866 or 2133MHz RAM or allow overclock to that level I'm sure the A10-4655m could far exceed that of the 630m, but alas not the case. I guess the 630m doesn't offer that much of an advantage overall. Now if they do change that to a 640m at same cost then the whole out look changes.

 

Does anyone have a dual graphics A10-4600M HP DV6-7200 with HD7670 dGPU and 1080p display? Wondering how that works, could be a decent reason to get a 15.6", even has backlit keyboard, under $1k and maybe a 10-20% coupon sometime before the holiday.

 

I think the 1.04in is mistyping, just do not make me sense. Than I would rather buy the 1 inch thick Pavilion M6 with A10-4600M and backlit keyboard for cheaper price.
I found another size numbers;
Scroll Down to Key Specifications and check the Dimensions and Weight: 13.1 x 9.0 x 0.82 inches. So which one is true? I assume the 0.82in is what is and than my stat is also correct; NP530U4C and NP535U4C are using absolutely the same body...

 

On the Samsung website it says the NP535U4C is 0.69'' thick.

 

More good news. Another Russian website has posted and article about ASUS' upcoming products, but this time the presentation was in Moscow.
http://blogs.pcmag.ru/node/1905 (Russian Edition of PC Mag)
It says that the U38 should be available in early December with a price tag of 28000 RUB which is roughly $900/700euro, and with the inflated prices of the Russian/European market it may end up costing even less.

Now lets hope that the US/NA version comes out as soon as the Russian version.

The Taichi was also priced 33% (52000RUB about $1685, way overpriced) higher in Russia than in US, so lets ope the U38 ends up cheaper as well. Also there is the ASUS X202 priced at 18000RUB which is at about $583 on par with the US pricing of $599 and cheaper with discounts. From what I can tell only the prices of the more expensive items were inflated.

 

Google brings up a lot of Chinese sites pre-ordering U38Ns (A6-A10, no U38DT) and an arrival date of January 1, 2013. Maybe it will be available closer to $800 when it releases in the states?

 

About $800-900 is my best guess.

 

The only person I know is from this thread, but I'm sure there's others with similar setups:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/676526-dv6z-7000-amd-a10-4600m-crossfire-performance.html

 

I've seen the NP530U4C (i7-3517u) and the NP535U4C (A8-4555m version) firsthand, and they share the exact same dimensions.

 

Thanks for confirming, than NP535U4C still the most tempting laptop for myself. I'll buy soon as gets reasonable price .

 

Hi all,

I am after some advice from 7660G+7670m owners - What driver gives you best performance?

I am losing the will to try with this setup, Crossfire just does not reap any improvement for me at all, nearly every game (if not all) I have tried runs better with CF disabled. Am running just the 12.11 beta 8 and 12.11 cap 1 on a fresh build of Windows 7

Last time I put faith in AMD for driver support. When I check usage with of each GPU, most of the time I see <50% usage. 7670m on it's own 99% all the time

 

Asymmetrical CrossfireX has been problematic since its inception. It never worked well or offered much benefit over the dedicated card slightly overclocked. It's a good idea in theory, but it just hasn't been implemented well. There was lots of discussion on that in the DV6z forum with the Llano CPU's with 6750m. Microstutters were horrific.

 

As pointed out just a few posts above, the link is a good thread to go to about the HP A10+7670M dual graphics. FWIW, I ran hybrid crossfire on an older HD3200 IGP to an HD3470, and it worked well. Many applications are set up to take mote advantage of Nvidia SLI, because Nvidia pushes the developers to do that with dollars involved I am sure.

 

Well, I finally got tired of waiting. I ordered an Asus N56DP from Pro-Star. With the superduper display (95% NTSC), IC Diamond thermal compound, 2x8GB 1600MHz DDR3, 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD, and an optical bay hard drive caddy. I'm in Ireland right now but had a friend in New York order it for me, I'll be flying out to visit him next week. I will probably wipe the OS and install Linux on it without even booting to Windows.

 

Nice, I bought my N56DP from XOTICPC, replaced the stock optical drive with Blu-Ray Writer, and kept everything else stock, since the display was already 1080P. Instead of adding SSD I bought my 256GB 840 Pro from Newegg, so I would still have the hard drive with pre-installed content as backup (when they change storage they also clean install windows so I didn't want that). I thought about getting the IC Diamond thermal compound too, but then it might have delayed my shipping date so I skipped it, and since the N56 already runs cool with Intel it should run even cooler with AMD. I hope it makes a difference for you though, might make overclocking more stable.

 

AMD has really crappy Linux support. And switchable graphics is a no-no with Linux (there's no equivalent of the Bumblebee project for AMD GPUs).
I wouldn't delete Windows if I were you...

 

Hmmm. OK, good to know. I'll just try booting it up with Linux on a USB flash drive first and see how it goes.