The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

It looks like they were still using 1600 RAM as well, I expect the numbers to be a bit better with some tweaking.

 

I just do not understand why doesn't make AMD some sound for their new products? I believe 99% of customers have not even heard "Richland" yet. Commercials should be in television, in radio and online with plenty tests, where AMD clearly better than Intel... All review sites should already have their A10-5750M laptop with 1866MHz CL10 Dual memory...etc.

 

Unfortunately AMD doesnt have money for advertising, and at the same time you cannot make money without spending some. Hopefully that will change if someone like Microsoft picks up their Temash APU for the Surface Pro, or when these Richland APUs make it into the Vizio notebooks and the Temash APUs into their tablets they could advertise it and AMD tag along. And Sony, could be a great advertising partner. I am waiting for the Playstation commercials to come back in anticipation of the PS4 with AMD APU in it. That and Sony will likely have an ulta thin lineup of notebooks based on AMD Kabini APUs.

 

PS4 will be the advantage AMD needs. If the name gets out there and people say "hey my PS4 has an AMD in it" hopefully that brand recognition will translate into more laptop sales. I just want them to offer top end A10 in a thin and light. There's no reason they can't package a 35W TDP chip in a thin 13" notebook.

 

"Do you know what CPU powers the PS3?"

"I don't know, and I don't care."

 

Most young PS users may not care, but actual PC gamers may care knowing what the games have been optimized to run on, so when they get ported over to PC they may favor the AMD video cards. And who knows what kind of marketing deal AMD could have made with Sony as part of the cost. You may not know this, but back in the day, there were commercials for GPUs and people cared whats "inside". When first released Sony made a big deal about its PS3 cell processor, and may do the same for its custom AMD processor.

 

Lets see what comes out of there, but AMD is assuming a posture of letting the OEMs shine instead of betting in brand recognition.

 

As of now, the OEMs haven't done that great of a job.

I recall seeing a large Dell kiosk at a multi-story shopping mall in Chicago. Intel i3/i5/i7 banners everywhere...

Not a single AMD laptop or tablet.


And if you compare the selection of Intel and AMD laptops, Intel has a lot more offerings, thus it's easier to find the most fitting laptop for your needs.

 

I am curious if 1866mhz ram will even work in old trinity laptops upgraded with richland. I wonder if all trinity laptops that have non-soldered cpu's will be plug 'n' play..

 

My bet is NO and NO.

Even if Richland is socket compatible, chances of it being compatible with the system is low. BIOS update likely required so depends on what the OEM's do.

 

AMD did a drop in replacement test with an off the shelf HP laptop and it worked. There may need to be some bios tweaks to get the full advantage, especially 1866 RAM. Although the MSI GX60 BIOS already has 1866 RAM as an option. I dont know if others have any selection or will set auto from SPD.

Going from Bulldozer to Piledriver on my desktop, there was no BIOS update required, but I feel like it still needs one as some of the settings are finicky. So I am still using a BIOS that came out about 9 months before Vishera (Piledriver) CPUs were released.

 

It would be nice, then I'd update my 6475b.

 

Just make sure the BIOS doesn't give any trouble. I've read horror stories about people attempting to replace the i3 or i5 with an i7, and the laptop refusing to boot or becoming unstable.

 

Here's A10-4600m in an MSI GX60 where they evaluated the A10-4600m 7660g @ 1080p. Very interesting results.

Full review starts here: Rage3D.com : MSI GX60 Gaming Notebook [ Introduction ]

But benchmarks begin here: Rage3D.com : MSI GX60 Gaming Notebook [ 3DMark11 ]

 

The first result embarrassed me to read further; P824 for 7660G?

 

I doubt many manufacturers will come out with new bioses for existing models to make the cpu + ram compatible. They would just rerelese the models with richland not make the new bios available :O

 

new amd chip AMD Launches

 

From the link you posted:

 

Well, that's going to put a damper on using PSCheck to lock the APU at the max stable turbo level and OC the GPU at the same time...

 

I finally sold my monstrous Vostro and one thing for sure; I won't buy again 15.6" laptop. That's mean if a 35W Richland won't be available in a thin 14" with all the goods, I'll move to Intel Ultrabook...

 

Here are the CPUs.

Notebooks With AMD Accelerated Processors

 

I'm curious to see how the A10-5750M will perform especially with dual channel DDR3-1866 on board. I hope oems will provide decent amd notebooks. It's almost impossible to find a trinity laptop here in France.

 

So when will these be for sale?

 

Now comes the waiting game for the Richland laptops...

 

At least the BGA version also have now 35W TDP variants, a good sign of a decent 14" thin laptop.

 

@kallogan

Me too. It gets 1400 in 3Dmark11 with DDR3-1600, my guess is 1866 should improve on that a bit. Maybe 1500'ish ? Which if you compare to the A10-4600m at 1150 would be quite nice. Can't wait to get hold of one and try it.

 

Hey good catch! Interesting, I wonder why they did that?

 

Because of their customizeable TDP, the OEM can use one chip in multiple devices with diffferent cooling, just take the 35W part and limit it to a certain temperature, so it cuts itself off.

 

So did anyone find any decent review of the Richland APUs yet?

 

That's great. 1500'ish should be sufficient enough to play most games on medium on any 768p notebooks within a moderate power consumption. Igpus are starting to get serious.

 

Now imagine what we will get with Kaveri!
I am not very excited about Richland but if Kaveri brings the type of performance gains in the GPU as Richland did and couples that with drastic improvements on the CPU portion then AMD will have a winner on their hands (if they improve in the driver front as well).

 

Isn`t this the perfect example that shows Intel got so strong hold on the reviewers or what?

NDA ended yesterday. Richland was announced by AMD yesterday. Zero reviews of the A10-5750M.
With Intel CPUs you have previews months before launch, and the reviews are out from a ton of sites the minute the NDA ends.

Its like nobody even bother.

 

That, or AMD's marketing department got lazy and didn't ship out any APUs for reviewers to test.

Intel already gave Tom's Hardware a Haswell desktop CPU engineering sample, and those aren't expected to hit anytime soon.


EDIT: [coolaler]MSI GX60 with new AMD A10 5750M - AnandTech Forums

Well, that's interesting. A MSI GX60 user was the first one to test out the new A10. And the responses on Anandtech forum was lackluster.

 

Yeah either way its a bit sad since new technology always excite me.

Too bad the guy who tested GX60 with the 5750M didn`t test 3DMark with his GPU. Looks to me he only benched the 7970M and not the 8650G.

Looking at the Vantage score and the CPU score in particular, the score increased from 6740 to 7549 (4600M vs 5750M). That is a 12% improvement for the CPU. The GPU score boosted from 16988 to 19105, +12.5%, which means the 5750M is less bottleneck than 4600M for strong GPUs like 7970M

 

Hey guys, where's the PSCheck? All of the download links that I found are dead.

 

Trinity already twice as strong in graphics applications than Intel Ivy Bridge, so how would look like Richland against it? For an Intel biased site like Anandtech, certainly could be great challenge to show small performance difference between the racers, like they claims Trinity GPU only 20% faster than Ivy Bridge GPU... They might will test Richland limited with 1600MHz CL11 4GB Ram, against the most expensive Haswell APU in June... .

 

Yup, all dead. I have a copy saved.

 

Guys if any of you wanted to get the 13.3'' Samsung Utrathin it is on sale at Tigerdirect for $450(No TAX) for Today Only!
This one has the A6 ULV 4GB memory configuration (presumably single channel but can be upgraded to 8GB)

 

hey dricardo-

how's bioshock 3 treating you? have you tried running it on you 6475b yet?

 

<Record scratch noise>
Are any ultrabooks using 35W intel parts?
I thought they were all using 17W an lower?

 

Yes, Ultrabooks are use 17W parts, but the CPU part somewhat still faster than a 35W Trinity. There is a very temping model from Samsung; pairing Intel ULV CPU with Radeon 8750M 2GB graphics, seems the perfect laptop for me... Any suggestion, waiting for Kaveri?

 

I'll try Bioshock Inifinite(?) soon and let you know once i do. I'll try with all the details maxed out at 1366x768 and 1920x1080.

 

Vizio 14” and 15" Thin + Light Touch available for pre-order. Finally a 14" ultrathin with A10 35W APU and with HD+ display . Unfortunately it just the old Trinity and cannot be upgraded to Richland (the APU is soldred .)

 

Holy cow, 0.66" thick. I knew it could be done. Just not sure why it took someone so long to do it! I'm beginning to like Vizio as a company. I have one of their TV's and it was inexpensive but good quality with lots of features.

At least if it's Richland, perhaps TDP throttling won't be a concern and it will actually be able to perform much better.

No indication if keyboard is backlit or not, but 80WHr battery!

I'd prefer a matte screen without touch though to be honest.

And notice Wi-Fi 802.11 AC

 

Wow those look really good, i feel like these are way too late to the game but I thought all 35W Trinity APUs were socketed? There is some confusion from those links, and it looks like they're Richland APUs to me, not Trinity. It would make perfect sense for these to be Richland!

I want one . 802.11ac, TPM, large batteries, HD/HD+ display, 10-point touchscreens, SSDs and thin and light chassis!? Way to go Vizio, I applaud you, and way to show all the other lame OEMs how its really done! I will buy one of these Vizios thin and lights JUST to support them for their efforts on bringing a very desirable AMD-APU based laptop to market. I also own a Vizio HDTV that has been flawless and would easily buy their computers now.

---14"---
Tech Specs
Processor
Processor Manufacturer: AMD
Processor Model: A10 4657M??????
Processor Speed: Quad 2.3GHz

Operating System
Windows 8

Memory
Memory (RAM): 8GB
Memory Frequency (MHz): Up to 1600MHz
Memory Type (DDR2 / DDR3): DDR3

Display
Display Type (LCD/LED): LED
Display Resolution: 1600x900
Display Size: 14” (Diagonal)
Touchscreen: Yes. 10-point Touch Point

Graphics
Graphics Manufacturer (Primary Card): AMD
Graphics Model (Primary Card): AMD Radeon™ HD 7660G???????

Disk
Hard Drive Size: 128GB†
Hard Drive Type (SATA / SSD): SSD

Networking
Bluetooth: Yes, Bluetooth 4.0
Wireless: 802.11ac

Ports
HDMI Output: 1
3.5mm Headphone/Mic: 1
USB 3.0: 2

Battery
Battery Life (Hours): Approx. 7 hours*
Battery Size: 80Wh

Others
Audio: Integrated
Speakers: 2 x 1.5W Speaker
Built in Mic: Yes

Misc. Features
TPM Chip: On Board
Built in Web Cam: Yes
Color: Silver

Weights and Dimensions
Description Weight (lbs.) L x W x H (inches)
Total Unit (without packaging) 4.18 lbs. 13.35” x 9.14” x 0.66”
Total Unit (with packaging) 7.48 lbs. 14.65” x 10.47” x 2.56”


---15.6"---
Tech Specs
Processor
Processor Manufacturer: AMD
Processor Model: A10/ 4657M
Processor Speed: Quad 2.3GHz

Operating System
Windows 8

Memory
Memory (RAM): 8GB
Memory Frequency (MHz): Up to 1600MHz
Memory Type (DDR2 / DDR3): DDR3

Display
Display Type (LCD/LED): LED
Full HD Display (1080P or greater): Yes
Display Resolution: 1920x1080
Display Size: 15.6” (Diagonal)
Touchscreen: Yes. 10-point Touch Point

Graphics
Graphics Manufacturer (Primary Card): AMD
Graphics Memory Shared / Size (Primary Card) 1GB
Graphics Model (Primary Card): AMD Radeon™ HD 8670M

Disk
Hard Drive Size: 128GB†
Hard Drive Type (SATA / SSD): SSD

Networking
Bluetooth: Yes
Wireless: 802.11ac

Ports
HDMI Output: 1
3.5mm Headphone/Mic: 1
USB 3.0: 2

Battery
Battery Life (Hours): Approx. 6.5 hours*
Battery Size: 90 Wh

Others
Audio: Integrated
Speakers: 2 x 1.5W Speaker
Built in Mic: Yes

Misc. Features
TPM Chip: On Board
Built in Web Cam: Yes
Color: Silver

Weights and Dimensions
Description Weight (lbs.) L x W x H (inches)
Total Unit (without packaging) 4.84 lbs. 14.92” x 9.90” x 0.68”
Total Unit (with packaging) 8.70 lbs. 16.22” x 11.18” x 2.99"

 

I perfectly agree:thumbsup:.

Trinityyy, an A10-4600M in BGA package . But I understand you've expected Richland, that was the logical...

 

I would've like a non-touch matte screen too, but unlike you guys ill gladly take what i could get.

And that sucks about this "new" Trinity BGA APU. Nonetheless, its still a great APU (as is/was the A10-4600M) but a Richland APU just made so much more sense. I wonder if this was done for cost savings and just using up old silicon AMD had left over and repacked as BGA just to get rid of it?

I noticed the Vizios are using Synaptics touchpads, i like Synaptics touchpads the most. Also the 15.6" model has an 8670M dGPU. So maybe the two GPUs will crossfire (see the article linked below)?


In other related Richland news:
Detailing Richland’s Dual Graphics & GCN Compatibility

 

I agree with you we should support AMD, but I do not want buy again something which does not meet my expectations. We actually all wish the same, a 13-14" with the most current 35W APU, HD+ matte screen, two memory slot, mSata + HDD, backlit keyboard in a nice thin design. Unfortunately nobody willing to make it and I'm tired to keep waiting for Jesus.
Yes they probably had left A10 Trinity chips and wanna sell it. Still great chip, but 2012 was the year for Trinity...

 

Tom's Hardware mentioned that the low-voltage chips should come out in 2013 Q2: New Details Revealed on AMD's Upcoming Richland Chips

I'm fairly sure AMD also has 25W or lower TDP chips.


Now the question is, will the OEMs put those APUs in quality laptops? Or treat them as afterthoughts like the Trinity?

(HP had over 100 some Intel notebooks to around 20 AMD notebooks the last time I checked)

 

I was thinking that too, and likely crossfire well without microstutter considering the 7660g is probably not far from the performance of the 8670m. Nice thing it the dedicated vRAM of the 8670m will make game playing possible since it won't be sharing resources with the APU exclusively.