The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

Probably... bring back the Vertex 30GB for $83 after rebate or even $100 and I'll buy one.

But I would probably prefer a good deal on a 60GB.

By "testing" I would also use it for "real work" on my notebook.

 

zFlashPoint only is useful on drives with abysmal 4K write performance, in my experience. On my Vertex it noticeably slowed down application installations. The only thing faster at 4K writes is an Intel drive though, so I'm not sure how it compares to other non-Indilinx drives.

 

yap, same here



but It didn't seam to disable defraging in scheduler
did that myself

 

My order was just cancelled

It says out of stock and no eta when more stock is available .

 

Same here, booo

 

I just got the email saying my order was canceled because "product no longer available" bull.

 

Same email here. Even people that ordered after me that used free shipping got their drive while I got no product available. Talk about feeding consumers a load of bull to save face. oh well.

 

So some got shipped out? If it did, it makes me feel a little better, at least buy.com got screwed a little bit lol

 

Yup... Some definitely got shipped... At least mine did..

 

Nice! Let us know when it arrives!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-2-5-256...s=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
this ebay seller has 2 samsung ssd 256gb for $649 only.
whats up with that? samsung is cutting price with their ssd too?

 

That's pretty pricey IMO. Dell has coupons all the time and you can get it for anywhere from $500-600 there.

 

How would I get it for $500? What kind of coupon is that, like an accessories one or something?

 

They occasionally have 20% off coupon...

 

You're exactly right - FlashPoint isn't intended to improve performance for "good" SSDs, only the broken ones (read: JMicron).

To be honest I'm surprised to read about people with Vertex and Intel drives trying tweaks like FlashPoint to gain more performance Those drives are already so dang fast...

 

Anymore of the 20% coupons available? Would be nice to get one for my MBP.

 

Not right now AFAIK..

 

As I used vista on a 32gb ssd for half a year for all real work, it should be doable for "testing real work" but of course, any good deal would be nice

check ebay for cheap samsungs. i found 128gb for 200$ once.. while it's not that fast (still weeeh speedy ), it would give you tons of storage, thus the disk would be interesting even after testing (even if just as an external disk or so.. it's an external one you can't drop )

 

Hey have you seen this : Samsung to kick off PRAM production next month

Are we going to see them on SSDs ?

 

if they work well, sure. it's samsung, so they could create new sammies

small but fast (at first at least. 2 chips == 1gb? so we won't get that much storage out of the first gen.. )

 

give me at least 16gb for a hundred bucks and i'll bite

 

i can buy that here in our online shops. SAMSUNG SSD Drive UM410 MLC, 16GB (MMCRE32GSMPP-MVA00), 82$

but i think on ebay you can get much better bang for the buck

 

it says 1 chip == 512 Mb, so 16 chips == 1 GB

if we get 4 GB it would be nice, or maybe more if chips are cheep

 

oh okay, i've missread. well, cheap or not, space is a problem, too. if those chips aren't TINY TINY TINY then you can't have easily 2048 of those on a simple 2.5" (or 1.8") disk. that would be for a 128gb ssd, which i count as sweet spot.

even 512 of those (32gb) would not really fit onto a small disk

 

Maybe it would fill the void that the Intel turbo Memory fills. If its 30 times faster and can get to even 4-8GB size then it would be a pretty good deal.

Pretty much an Instant on OS at that point

Still not memristors but getting better

See we need
16gb of PRAM for OS processes
60-256gb SSD for OS storage and applications
20TB of PMC for data storage

win for everyone

 

or just memristors. espencially interesting once they get beyond storage usage. once intel and similar start to implement them into their cpu's, the cpu's can actually sort of shut down while computing something. i have no idea yet, but the people at intel, nvidia, etc are creative about using such technology in interesting ways to maybe reduce idle power usage to 10% of what they are now? maybe more? no clue. but the thought is interesting on how it could change everything in the long term. no device does have the need to be powered on to hold a state. that could change very much. together with e-paper we could have devices that use no power while nothing changes. and still are up and running at an instant.

we'll see, we'll see

 

Here it say it's 200 mm line, but I think it is 200 nm, so chips are probably "standard" dimensions. IMO they could fit 64 chips on one or two PCBs, which will fit in 2.5" SSDs, and that is equal to 4 GB of storage, and I think it is not bad at all.

Probably everyone remember video with 24 Samsung SSDs in RAID 0, right, and Samsung stated that new SSDs are up to 30 times faster, so it is like You have 30 SSDs in RAID 0.

Mmmmmmmmm, nice!!!

 

jup, nice, but i couldn't even install a full os on it. still, nice, yes, i want.. just spread those chips all over the bottom of my notebook (and back of my screen). then, i can surely fit 2048 of those on my system

 

Probably first SSDs weren't much bigger, but when production process come down to 70-80 nm it would be easy to make 2 Gb chips, so 4 of them is 1 GB, and 64 of them is 32 GB.

That would be perfect for me. Now I use 25 GB for Win XP, Office, all programs, mail and all documents. Just to say that 8 GB is movies and music and 2 GB for system restore.

 

I'm more interested in it's performance characteristics, a.k.a. how's small random writes?

yeah 32gb works for living. but it's not "perfect". it's enough for starting real, that's all

 

200 mm is correct. They are referrring to the size of the wafer. 200 mm = 8 inch wafer. Today the newer fabs process 12" wafers (300 mm).

 

There is no need to worry about performance, current Samsung SSDs are close to SATA-II and, as we all know, they newer had problems with random writes.

My first SSD was 16 GB and it was fine for me, but I always was caring 16 GB CF with few movies.

 

I was thinking of returning my X25-M 80Gb for a X25-E 32GB, but I wonder if that's just to small for OS & Apps. I have 1TB external storage and will only need W7 RC1 X64, Apps, and my Firefox & Thunderbird Profiles.

It just seems like in the long run, everything will require more space and I don't know if the 32GB will be worth it.

 

If I have extra money, i would buy 32G for OS, and use my sammy or intel for application

 

How do you run/install applications on an external HDD? I was thinking that it's better to have OS & Apps on one drive?

I mean, do you think my idea would work or is it worth it?

 

Why would you want to install them on an external drive? An esata SSD, or just a big mechanical external drive? I don't really understand your question, its the same way you'd do it on your internal drive.

 

mylaptop can handle two hard drives, so i actually dont need external HD

 

Just checked dvnation.com and more Indilinx drives are popping up! Solidata K5 (SLC) and K6 (MLC). Pricing of the K5 seems to be more competitive than the K6 drives. So far at 64GB SLC w/ Indilinx:

Super Talent LE and Solidata K5 are around $500 ($7.7/GB), while OCZ Vertex EX debuts at nearly $700!

While the opposite is seen for 128GB MLC w/ Indilinx:

OCZ Vertex cheapest at $320 ($2.5/GB), w/ G. Skill Falcon and Super Talent ME around $350, then RunCore Pro IV at $450 and Solidata K6 at $500!

 

Now if someone would just make an Indilix Expresscard SSD... I really don't see how they can be blind to that market space.

 

Sorry, just had to throw this in there 'cuz I knew it'd rile up Dave - you could fit an XP installation on there. And, possibly shrink it to less than 3.5 GBs with nLite and taking out miscellaneous stuff like IE and office and other things you don't actually need like Documentation & Support app.

I would totally jump on the 32GB x-25E. You can stick other apps on an external and leave the OS and internet browsers on the Intel just fine.

 

dude. you don't want to have to hazzle with all that. you want all apps in the default installation path, all at full performance. you don't want to partition anymore, hazzle around with more than one disk, etc. just install and leave all at default.

and yes you can install xp on it. had vista for half a year on a 32gb ssd, works great, too.

but for such a thing to be ready-to-marked, you shouldn't have to fiddle with it at all, you shouldn't have to nlite, you shouldn't have the need for a second (external) disk, etc.

while you can always get it to work, you don't want to. that's not what you pay a premium for.

 

dude. you don't want to have to hazzle with all that. you want all apps in the default installation path, all at full performance.

Yes I do. Please don't take stabs at what I want. There's a bunch of crap in the default OS installation (if I really have to list it I will) that I simply do not want, and once I use nLite it, I can make a bootable disc that's ready to go over and over. If you haven't used nLite, there's no way you'd be saying this. It's not a big deal.

 

it is for the default user. and a component one can buy should be for the default user.

you said that thing is enough to bring onto marked if its 4gb or so. and i say NO it isn't. besides you, nobody would buy it.

and if you want to uselessly fiddle with your system believing it would help and enhance it, do so. then again, you could learn that it doesn't matter, and nlite is mostly placebo for the 2001 generation

(hint: disabling stuff you may not need, i'm fine with, but removing it, as with nlite, i'm not. one day you may suddenly have the need, and if it's only for a short time, only to help out some friend or what ever, you don't know today. and then, you can't just re-enable it. and if you think you gain something by removing that half a gb or one gb space, i can say, no, you don't.)

(hint 2: i was talking about your idea to spread your whole os over two disks by installing apps on D: and having the os on C:. this is a very bad idea, and if not needed by technical constraints in some form, should be avoided at all costs. apps and os belong together, and you want both to be as snappy as possible => both on a fast ssd. data is another topic.)

i just think you have a bit much believe in placebo effects. dunno why, but i can't find that out on an online forum anyways. i've solved quite much placebos in personal contacts with a simple comparison test. people normally agree with me once i've shown them my systems, and how life can be simple (without apple hrrhrr).

anyways, we're getting offtopic. i can't wait for the fruits of that new samsung development, espencially seeing where it may fix ssd issues. maybe it will get used in the future as a cache for the mlc devices, to rewrite random writes into sequencial ones? now THAT would be cool. a 2gb or so write cache, which stays at power-off, and flushes slowly onto the mlc.

that could be a first real usage model for that new technology. go for it, samsung!

 

I'm very impressed with the fact that you haven't stated your opinion even ONCE - that "nobody needs more than 128GB in a hard drive" in the post above

 

sorry, i forgot it

 

Well... Finally received the Kingston from Buy.com and it's 160GB

 

one lucky boy

 

And where do you live so i know where to send the ninja monkeys

A deal like that wont happen again until you can actually get the 160gb drive for 300ish.

I hate the cancelled mine.

Oh well i guess i'll just save up and get the 256 samsung from dell or fleabay. Or maybe wait for the 320gb intel a bit later this year

So many choices now, its hard to believe 2 years ago it was 2000 dollars for a 64gb SLC and that was it. Now SSD's are everywhere and the capacities are finally getting good.

 

Lucky SOB!! Congrats on your purchase

 

lucky ! better enjoy that sucker!