The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

I use RAID 0 for speed as well as to combine my two 64GB disks into a 128GB drive... so it's not just the speed that it is useful for. But if you just want to use it for speed reasons, you're right, it's probably not a big deal for the average user. Though someone who does a lot of large file transfers would probably benefit from the increased speed.

 

anyone else having trouble loading pages here? keeps on timing out for me for the past several days.

 

I've the same problem

 

Don't know if this has been posted before:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9357.html

Jmicron should have fixed stuttering for Computex!

 

What would be better is if they can fix the issue, for existing drives out there.

It would take more than just a more than just stutter free controller for them, to be seen in competitive light. Especially now, the likes of Vertex has re-shaped the landscape of affordable performance SSD.

Though 256bm cache is so far unseem, could be interesting.

 

HAHA i installed SP2 on my gateway yesterday and didn't even reallize it was a "big deal" if i would have thought about it i would have timed it but i didn't even notice anything going on while i browsed the net and did a couple little things (didn't take long enough for me to notice it was a big deal either). So i think the sammy SLCs hold up pretty good actually. Only reason i want another ssd is to replace my storage and i want one with high sequentials so my games load super fast. i think sequentials are pretty imortant for loading large levels etc...

 

This depends on price because honestly i think consumers want to see jmicron and all SSD's be FAST and affordable. hey look at us now, BUYING DRIVES FROM OCZ AGAIN! who'da thought.

 

What kind of sammy SLC drive are you using?

 

XP Pro with SP2 and AHCI drivers bundled via nLite took me 9 minutes to install on my Vertex, for reference.

 

Is there going to be any problem if I mix different drives in RAID 0? The capacity will be the same (I hope the formatted capacity will be the same), but different (SLC and MLC) drives.

 

I have the 2nd gen sammy slc

 

Oh, same here. Except I'm using the 32GB. 30GB after format. I'm thinking of doing RAID 0, but I'm getting a MLC instead. Do you think that will work?

 

Vista, no special configs. around 8 min on mtron raid0..

 

well, from what medium do you install your OS ?
cd? dvd?
from the times you are showing, I think it is usb memory...
couse, instaling windows 7 from dvdrw on my d620 took about 15-20 minutes, but, when I tried to install it from usb hdd, it took only 8-9 minutes

 

usb stick. installing from usb stick is just awesome (and you don't have to have those bulky huge cds with you all the time anyways).

i love vista/win7 just for the setup routine that is so flexible to boot from what ever with ease

I now always have a vista disk with me + a winhomeserver restore disk. both have the same winpe version, both can just be copied on usb stick and run.

failsafety in your pocket


espencially fun was the latency you could HEAR on cd's when they where scratch-n-search data. terrible in xp days

would be nice to install from an sata-stick or so. or usb3..

actually, flexible and useful right now would be a tiny pxe server to plug in a network cable and boot from, doing the setup "over network". 100MB/s if it's over gblan.

i think i'll have to get a fitpc for that

 

just as I thought, so, it turns out that those install times have nothing to do with raid 0 mtrons, its because of the install medium itself

 

well, yes. obviously the write speed of an ssd is much higher than the read speed from a cd (espencially if random reads are happening on the majority of data).

i'm really thinking about the fitpc-as-pxe-boot-server idea i like that

 

Are virus scan times shorter with an SSD? My 7200 Hd takes about an hour to scan. It is very annoying during the first 15min as everything comes to a crawl.

 

i don't use virescanner.. but i'd guess on a good ssd (with lots of parallel connections) it should a) not harm your system while running, and b) be quite a bit faster as long as it's not cpu limiting in some form (which it could).

but i don't do full scans and such anymore anyways

 

So could I just copy the files from a Vista DVD to a USB stick and install from that?

 

Copy it to your hard drive and use VLite. Check out the Windows section for a VLite guide!

 

or yes, just format the usb stick with ntfs and copy the files over.

but you should format it right, to make sure your pc boots from it.

start diskpart from the commandline (it requests admin rights so no speciality needed), and do this:

select disk 1
clean
create partition primary
select partition 1
active
format fs=NTFS
assign
exit

select disk may require another number depending on the disks. do a "list disk" first to see if disk 1 is your usb stick.

no need for vlite.

 

I just prefer VLite so that I can customize my Vista installation and streamline the service packs and updates all in one.

 

Wouldn't be the first time someone in this thread framed information to mislead.

 

Surprisingly, Super Talent has released a newer firmwire before ocz!

New FW 1571 is out.

You can go to super talents website to get it. Here's a change log http://www.liquidluxx.de/community/showpost.php?p=12122263&postcount=171

 

Thanks for the instructions, Dave Permen! I will give it a go. I really hope to get an SSD soon. Dentist must not want me to have one, he is giving me so many bills

 

Is the OCZ Summit faster than the Vertex? I'm having trouble finding solid data on the Summit. IOPS is what I'm mostly interested in...

(If this has been answered in this thread, my apologies. For some reason, the "search this thread" link is gone on this forum now...)

 

OCZ SSDs
.....

 

Not sure if that's supposed to be a reply to my question. The Summit and Vertex [120g] are very close in max throughput, (Summit a hair faster max. write and Vertex a hair faster max. read) and no other specs are shown. The price is almost the same too. What's the point?

 

From what I see here it doesn't look so hot in the benchmarks IMO. I guess we'll just have to wait for more benchmarks. Especially some from CrystalDisk which I trust.

 

The only real difference btw Summit and Vertex is Samsung vs. Indilinx controller. I guess when it becomes more mainstream, we'll see more benchmarks... the Summit looks promising as it has come out fairly cheaper than the Vertex.

 

FYI those reviews are worthless due to the fact that they were tested using much older firmware. The Vertex in particular now performs much better.

 

I have had my Samsung drives for a few months now and they are just as fast as the day I bought them.

 

Here is my samsung 256 on DELL E6400 result, after a few months use. test under windows7.
The 4k writting is realllly slow... as well as 512k

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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 202.018 MB/s
Sequential Write : 176.796 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 163.922 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 83.663 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 18.047 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 2.743 MB/s

Test Size : 1000 MB
Date : 2009/05/30 19:29:58

 

Wow, that is really slow. Now wonder my software installation sometimes is very slow.

 

What score does the intel get, ronan_zj?

 

if i remember, 4k on my intel was around 23MB/s. seq' reading is 250 orso and write was 70

 

I was wondering.. have anyone tried the Runcore Pro IV SSD? i want to know the performance besides from jkkmobile.

 

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obviously installation is a copy process so read from source, write to target both matter. and dvd/cd/bd what ever are all terribly slow (espencially at random access).

it always all depends on the slowest part. most the time, it's the hdd. but sometimes it isn't

 

those s!! (my gf works at one.. )

 

I always did format fs=FAT32, does NTFS work as well?

 

I installed Windows 7 onto my XPS notebook with Intel SSD in about 19 minutes from a USB stick.

I used the directions here:
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/

 

Hey guys, I bought a G.Skill Falcon SSD, but it's performance seems to be bottle-necked by SATA I - under Intel's Matrix Storage Console it says that the "Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode" is "Generation I." I could've sworn, however, that the Dell Studio 1535 is SATA II capable. Is there anyway to enable SATA II?

 

Obviously, and you omitted the critical piece of information which is that you installed from a much faster source, thereby making your Mtron installation time look much better than mine.

 

Actually, more on this...I don't think my hard drive is being accessed by DMA. The CPU utilization is too high - HDtune reads 23.3%. However, I cannot find a way to access DMA because in Vista's Device Manager, there are no IDE channels listed.

 

SATA is always DMA, there is no PIO.

 

I was wondering if the X25-E is worse than the X25-M due to the fragmentation issues? I know that Intel released an updated firmware for the X25-M, but not the X25-E. So is the X25-E worth it, (space/price aside)?

 

X-25E is more designed for enterprise use, the firmware is tuned differently. It gets much higher IOPS in benchmarks but is often beaten by the X-25M in real-world testing.

 

Well, I'd be using it as an OS/APP drive for webdesign/normal usage, and keeping storage on my external HDD. Do you think the X25-E would be possibly worse than the X25-M after fragmentation sets in?

 

yo ho ho, 600 pages, 6000 posts .... lol

did you guys see the newly listed 512GB SSD on neweggs website ?

nice (and expensive)