The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

Has anyone heard of the new Jmicron controller that they say will half SSD prices?

Techpowerup has the story. It will be interesting if this works out, it is about time we had high capacity SSDs that were within the affordable range of average people.

 

Did anyone try the wintec 48gb expresscard ssd? It seems quite useful to have as a separate disk to load those large apps/games.

 

The new Jmicron controller isn't going to halve prices all by itself. If you read the articles more carefully, they talk about the controller *and* flash foundries migrating to 34nm from 50nm. The size reduction is where all the cost reductions will come from.

 

I've only seen one *real* expresscard ssd so far, I'll look into this one.

 

which ssd expresscard is real?

 

seems to be a good accessory to have especially if you have a spare expresscard 34 slot. I will have to settle for this one instead of a full SSD for mine.

 

The new Kingston V series looks to be a rebadged Samsung drive. Similar to a 1st generation Samsung. At that price the 64gb looks good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=2003240636 50001183&name=Kingston Technology

 

Your kidding me? They made you pay the shipping when it was there fault? I dont think I would let that one slide, and for sure would have blacklisted them from future purchases like the above poster if they screwed me over like that.

Esp now that the Falcon is out there to compete with the Vertex for a cheaper price they should be doing every thing they can on the CS side to keep loyalty.

 

Making the user pay for shipping in DOA units is pretty common for a ton of manufacturers.

 

That's very tempting, given it does come with an enclosure also. Decent controller, good for notebooks since most run on SATA I anyways.

 

I was looking at the speed and power consumption figures of these drives and it seems to me that these are more similar to mtrons.

 

but newegg lists them as MLC not SLC...if this is true maybe they did just beef up the reads of the 1st gen samsung mlc at the cost of some power consumption benefits... if it's SLC it has the same read/writes as the mobi 3000

 

OCZ Intros New 3.5-inch "Colossus" SSD
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/OCZ-SSD-3.5-inch,7950.html

 

OCZ definitely gets the award for "Most similar number of products on the market at one time." Going to check out that link now

 

boooooo notebooks can't use them!

 

Yeah, I found out it was 3.5 after I checked the link. Still, a step in the inevitable direction. Man, hard drives sure had a good run, but it is pretty much over

The people closest to me know that hard drives were my TRUE love.

 

Is this normal?
If so, why the drastic changes in read speed?

 

I believe it is because they use the 64Gb SLC that i have which is rated 100MB/s read and about 80MB/s write.

 

Thanks but that does not explain why certain parts get 80 MB/sec and other parts 140MB/sec....

 

Anyone know what these might be a re brand of?

http://www.imation.com/en/Imation-Products/Solid-State-Drives/M-Class-Solid-State-Drives/

 

Just an update for anyone with the Vertex SSD drives. New firmware 1.30 out for it. I've updated and SSD is running as fine as it was before; system files and settings in tact; programs and everything still there.

Not too sure of what the firmware adds but from what i've read so far seems to be bug fixes.

The updated firmware can be downloaded Here. BTW I installed it using the USB Drive Method.

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For all the stuff OCZ does wrong, there's one thing they do right: They update.

That's something we have to honour them. Not something I'd like on server disks, or in a corporate environment, but for home users, it's quite nice.

 

I have experienced similar with my Samsung SLC 64GB drives... not sure why but they seem to work fine.

 

solution: only partition the fast parts hrrhrr

 

Looks similar to what somebody showed me when I asked what the "studdering" problem was with SSDs they work full speed then suddenly slow down or stop.

 

hey guys, just installed the 1st of the 2 corsair 256 gb drives, (other one coming next week) and am only getting 150Mb/s read...

any ideas..? Also when copying all of my work folders on to the ssd i got some stupidly slow writes.. like 7-8mb/s which was very upsetting.. it seems these drives are just cut out for large file transfers...

 

which sata mode are you in? ahci or ide-emulated? s-ata drivers up to date? well, those are sort of the standard questions..

 

hey dave, in raid, as i used to have 2 x 320gb drives... and am expectign another corsair next week...

if i change the setting to ahci it says it maybecome unbootable... however i only have 1 drive attached..

which is the mode to be in ?

 

ahci should be way to go i think. i actually never really cared myself much, all worked out of the box, so i dunno

it should not become unbootable at all, this warning is (i guess) mainly for xp installations, as they may not have the required sata drivers to install and run the os by default.

 

ok will give it a shot in about 30 mins.. thanks a bunch!

 

OCZ introduced a new SSD today. It was about time they did.

OCZ Agility: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/flash_drives/ocz_agility_series_sata_ii_2_5-ssd

 

jup. they had a bit a lacking product palette in the ssd department..

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no, i won't even put a smile behind that...

 

the problem is what kind of controller are they using and what kind of performance can we expect?

Now the SSD controllers are from either Samsung, Indilinx or Jmicon. Could this be the rumoured generation 2 controller from jmicron?

 

Word is they use the same controller as the Vertex with slower flashmemory.
Prices are lower than Vertex.
Dutch pricing:
30 GB - 100 euro
60 GB - 160 euro
120 GB - 250 euro

 

Sounds good. Now I have to decide to wait for this or the Kingston V series.

 

hmm ahci hasn;t changed the spped at all.. still stuck at arroun 150MB/s

 

LOL u gotta be joking...

or could it be the Sandisk G3 that was supposed to be out end of March? If so, I'm down!

 

More hope:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/super-talent-intel-ssd,7978.html

YES!

 

Haha, tell that to anyone who owns a Core or CoreV2.

Core: Sorry, not upgradable.

CoreV2: Upgradable! But sorry, we're not going to release any updates.

 

hehe, right

well, at least, then, they learned that updatable hw, and releasing updates, is an important thing..

i still wouldn't want to have one

 

Could someone please explain to me why the speeds of SSDs are bottlenecked when placed in a notebook? Or am I wrong about this? What kind of maximum speeds are we looking at when bottlenecked?

 

Some laptops limit their SATA speeds to 150MB/sec to conserve power. I don't recall which models do this. My HP dv5z has no cap, it's reading at well over 200MB/sec on my G.Skill Titan...

Yeah, after OCZ I bought a G.Skill and a Transcend. Anything but OCZ again...

 

Also, on battery mode, speeds are capped.

 

Just picked up a CFD 64gb with barefoot controller and ordered the wintec 48gb from amazon. I will put some benchmarks up as soon as I can.

 

Is the only difference between this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227450

and the Vertex the fact that the Summit has 129mb cache? Or does it have a different controller? Is so, which one? thanks for any info.

 

Summit has Samsung controller. Vertex/Agility use Indilinx.

 

Got it. Then the Summit should be a pretty good contender, yes?

 

The two Samsungs that I have in my Thinkpad are pretty good.

 

Yep. It should be very good. I'm personally waiting to see what is up with the Kingston V-Series as well as the OCZ Agility (though early numbers are good for a "budget" solution). Only concern about the Agility is that early pricing has it at $10 more than the G.Skill Falcon which isn't using slower flash.

 

Also the Samsung PM800 and the Corsair P256 should be the same drive as the Summit.