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    The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Les, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    I really want to get an intel SSD, the performance is so OMG! :D, it would be a nice upgrade for my monster :D :D.

    2 weeks to wait and see.
     
    MexicanSnake, Jul 1, 2009
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  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Alrighty, it's been more then great for me so far, though only the startup and shutdown :p In regards to system restore, I've been tinkering with Vista for a while, how do I make it make less restore points?

    I'm still installing TF2 and L4D on it, so i'll see when thats done.


    It's just that I hear alot about TRIM and whatnot, that I get confused.
     
    coriolis, Jul 1, 2009
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  3. Kamin_Majere

    Kamin_Majere =][= Ordo Hereticus

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    I just type "Restore" after i hit the Window key and it will usually pull up system restore. From there you just disable it.

    As to TRIM, it a feature that deletes blocks more efficently on SSD's Windows 7 is "supposedly" going to feature it.
     
    Kamin_Majere, Jul 2, 2009
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  4. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    And for it to work correctly; SSDs along with the OS needs to support it natively. This can and will be done in the near future with the Vertex's via a firmware update. Or so i've read.
     
    makaveli72, Jul 2, 2009
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  5. TMC01

    TMC01 Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm I thought OCZ was supposed to have implemented in their firmware and W7 would feature it as one of its new improvements.
     
    TMC01, Jul 2, 2009
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  6. davepermen

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    resize system restore vista (google search)

    or, if you have a good backup solution, you might consider disabling it.
     
    davepermen, Jul 2, 2009
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  7. HRUNTING

    HRUNTING Notebook Enthusiast

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    As far as I know, the current release of Windows 7 already does send the TRIM command for each file delete, but its up to the controllers and drives to interpret it correctly before it can have any effect.

    OCZ, Supertalent, Gskill, and anyone else who repackages Indilinx SSDs is waiting on Indilinx to update their firmware to recognize native TRIM, so that all these drives can benefit from it. Samsung drives are also supposed to see a firmware update when Windows 7 is officially released.
     
    HRUNTING, Jul 2, 2009
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  8. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    Not sure if it was posted before but Techreport has upgraded their test system and posted new benchmarks of used Vertex vs. Summit vs. Intel in Vista.

    http://techreport.com/articles.x/17136/5
     
    Phil, Jul 2, 2009
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  9. onyro

    onyro Notebook Geek

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    Hey guys anybody know the equivalent to ATTO or crystal mark on linux?
     
    onyro, Jul 2, 2009
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  10. Tocharius

    Tocharius Notebook Consultant

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    Quick question: EeePC 1000H is limited to SATA I, right? My Vertex gets a max seq read of 124MB/s.
     
    Tocharius, Jul 2, 2009
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  11. onyro

    onyro Notebook Geek

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    Guys wahts the best Strip size for raid 0 on 2 corsairs 256gb..? currently got 128kb
     
    onyro, Jul 2, 2009
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  12. goofball

    goofball Notebook Deity

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    Yes, correct, you are limited by the interface, not the drive.
     
    goofball, Jul 2, 2009
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  13. Tocharius

    Tocharius Notebook Consultant

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    Good, so the benchmarks are ok and I have a silent and fast netbook. The fan is still annoyingly loud, though.
     
    Tocharius, Jul 2, 2009
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  14. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Kill the fan, Kill the fan!! :)

    Not a good idea btw, I've killed 3 systems because of fans I've removed. But I don't learn from it, hahah
     
    davepermen, Jul 2, 2009
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  15. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Mine too :eek: And i'm getting around 122 Seq. :cool:
     
    makaveli72, Jul 2, 2009
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  16. Tocharius

    Tocharius Notebook Consultant

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    I almost killed the fan because I swapped the crappy Ralink wifi card for an Intel 4965 and installed a third antenna, which got into the blades one time. It took me some time to figure out why the fan was making such strange noises...

    I think the Eee shouldn't suffer to much without a fan if you don't use it for intensive tasks. But I'm still not gonna kill the fan. :)

    So, back to topic. The Vertex inside is great. I was really worried about the HDD which used to be in the Eee. This Seagate thing used to idle at 50 degree celsius...

    Now, it's nice and cool. But of course, everyone in here already knows that.
     
    Tocharius, Jul 2, 2009
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  17. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    is the fan regulated by temparature, or is it just always on? because as you now lowered the internal temperature thanks to the ssd, you may really be able to turn it off, or make it more quiet, actually.

    now that would be a gain from the ssd :)
     
    davepermen, Jul 2, 2009
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  18. Tocharius

    Tocharius Notebook Consultant

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    The thermal policy is coded into the BIOS, so I don't think there's a chance to reduce the noise even more. I might try SpeedFan, but that didn't work on my Timeline.

    The Timeline starts the fan only if it has to (battery mode). On AC, it runs constantly. So yes, the more powerful laptop runs quieter.
     
    Tocharius, Jul 2, 2009
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  19. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    ^^^ Yea I gave SpeedFan a try sometime back but didn't have the option to control the fan in the 1000HE. :(
     
    makaveli72, Jul 2, 2009
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  20. Phil

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    Eeectl gives fanspeed control right?
     
    Phil, Jul 2, 2009
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  21. Tocharius

    Tocharius Notebook Consultant

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    Awesome. Now I have two silent notebooks. At least on battery...
     
    Tocharius, Jul 2, 2009
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  22. Phil

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    It's a really cool tool. Also the backlight brightness control.
     
    Phil, Jul 2, 2009
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  23. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    davepermen: Why did You "kill" fan?

    You think You know better? :p
    Just kidding!

    Really, why did You "kill" it?
     
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  24. onyro

    onyro Notebook Geek

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    guys do you know the best route for slapping 4 ssd's into a external raid0 drive connected via e-sata?
     
    onyro, Jul 2, 2009
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  25. Jlbrightbill

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    There is zero reason I can think of for using 4 SSDs in RAID-0 via eSATA. Your drives are severely bottlenecked by eSATA.
     
    Jlbrightbill, Jul 2, 2009
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  26. darQ96

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    as I recall, he is silence addict
    so, heat spreaders and heat pipes are the way to go mate ;)
     
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  27. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Because - I wanted it - to DIE!!!!! *evillaugh*

    :)

    No clue actually :) But I wanted it to get quiet and it didn't liked it :)
     
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  28. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Thanks for this. +Rep
     
    makaveli72, Jul 3, 2009
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  29. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    I always thought that fans are used to keep thing cold enough and prevent stuff from dying, so to me it is logical that every time You kill a fan You kill one or more "stuff".

    I'm glade that SSDs don't need a fan and don't have any moving parts. As someone mentioned before: I really like green PCB with chips.

    BTW: when I told to my girlfriend that I bought new "hard drive" without spinning plates (SSD) she asked me what is the difference between old SSD (Samsung 16 GB SLC) and new one (Super Talent MasterDrive SX)? Is it maybe the color of PCB? Will it be blue? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Just to mention that she hates computers, notebooks, and stuff.
     
    Tomy B., Jul 3, 2009
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  30. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    I'm the type that prefers cooling over silence, daveperman and I are on opposite ends. :)

    Within reason of course, I have a nice steady whirr of rushing air in my desktop. :) Laptops have fan whine or sound like a leaf blower, this is just like the sound of a desk fan moving air which I can deal with.
     
    Jlbrightbill, Jul 3, 2009
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  31. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm something between You and davepermen: I prefer silent cooling over smell of burned "stuff". ;)
     
    Tomy B., Jul 3, 2009
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  32. ofelas

    ofelas Notebook Evangelist

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    Thumbs up to silent/passive cooling.
     
    ofelas, Jul 3, 2009
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  33. darQ96

    darQ96 Notebook Consultant

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    as I wrote few posts above, heat spreaders and heat pipes kicks a*s ;)
     
    darQ96, Jul 4, 2009
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  34. Mr. Wonderful

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    Waiting patiently for the new 34nm 160GB Intels. Hopefully the price will be low enough for me to afford it. Otherwise, I'll be waiting until the first price drop.

    I was going to just jump in with a 34nm 80GB at whatever price that came out at, but looking at my current 200GB HDD, I only have ~60GB left, so the 80GB really isn't a realistic option, and I don't want to have to be constantly plugging and unplugging in an external HDD for storage of files.
     
    Mr. Wonderful, Jul 4, 2009
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  35. onyro

    onyro Notebook Geek

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    hey well it's the fastest way of connecting external storage from my dell m6400,

    any other ideas of how to acheive 400Mb/s + transfer for RT video editing etc..?

    I wonder when ssd's will start appearing in raid disk arrays with fibre channels etc...
     
    onyro, Jul 5, 2009
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  36. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    all that exists, but not for the general consumer.. :)
     
    davepermen, Jul 5, 2009
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  37. Jlbrightbill

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    You won't get 400 MB/s over eSata. You won't get 300 MB/s. You may not get 200 MB/s. You may even be fortunate to get 100 MB/s.

    I'm not trying to rain on your parade, I'm just pointing out that you're literally throwing away money to invest in a setup that you'd need a $700+ RAID controller to properly utilize.
     
    Jlbrightbill, Jul 5, 2009
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  38. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Btw, 400Mb/s = 50MB/s (8 bits per byte), unless you meant bytes (which is what was assumed). eSATA should be able to hit near 300MB/s since SATA can also hit near 300MB/s. You can use an ExpressCard/54 solution to RAID0 two eSATA ports to hit nearly 600MB/s.
     
    sgogeta4, Jul 5, 2009
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  39. Jackboot

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    So is it generally agreed that the Super Talent MasterDrive SX (based on Samsung PB22-J) is the lowest-priced SSD that consistently outperforms a notebook HDD (i.e., not based on a JMicron controller)? The PB22-J is still quite a bit slower than the Indilinx-based SSDs, but for some people the cost savings may be worth it.

    Here's a deal for the MasterDrive SX, if you're interested:

    MasterDrive SX at ewiz.com for $155 shipped after coupon

    Code for $15 off: fireworks15

    I'm waiting another week to hear what Intel has to tell us :)
     
    Jackboot, Jul 6, 2009
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  40. chunglau

    chunglau Notebook Evangelist

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    It's probably worth mentioning that the above links to the 64GB version. The 128GB version is also available, and the same coupon code applies to bring it down to $310. If you live in California, taxes may kill the deal :). Free UPS ground shipping, though.
     
    chunglau, Jul 6, 2009
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  41. mullenbooger

    mullenbooger Former New York Giant

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    What controller is in this, I can't keep track anymore lol.
     
    mullenbooger, Jul 6, 2009
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  42. chunglau

    chunglau Notebook Evangelist

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    Samsung controller.
     
    chunglau, Jul 6, 2009
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  43. TMC01

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    Samsung gen 2 for easier understanding.
     
    TMC01, Jul 6, 2009
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  44. chunglau

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    chunglau, Jul 7, 2009
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  46. Tomy B.

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    this is actual results for Super Talent MasterDrive SX 64 GB
     

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  47. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    this is on SATA-I controller

    and yes, my SSD arrived today

    BTW: we're on page 666 :D
     

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  48. Mr. Wonderful

    Mr. Wonderful Notebook Evangelist

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    So when do we think Intel will reveal these new drives? The wait is killing me! I'm ready to jump in.
     
    Mr. Wonderful, Jul 7, 2009
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  49. mullenbooger

    mullenbooger Former New York Giant

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    That cant be sata I, you're getting over 200mb/s

    Edit: Im blind, nevermind
     
    mullenbooger, Jul 7, 2009
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  50. TMC01

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    only the second one is Sata I.
     
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