The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

Now that's a deal

 

Well, they just raised the price by $15. $135 after rebate.

 

Do you guys recommend leaving on: "write caching to the disk"?

And do you guys turn on "enable advanced performance"?

Thanks!

 

Intel confirms reason behind shipment halt of new X25-M drives due to data corruption bug


http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...ta_corruption_bug_in_new_SSDs_halts_shipments

 

When is the OCZ Veterx Turbo SSDs due out?
I'm on the rocks, Intel's newest drive versus these OCZ's.
Sure the Intel has better IOPS, but I liek that the Vertex has super high write speeds, perhaps even fully saturating the SATA Bus lol.

Imagine a SSD-SSD Time machine backup...

 

The OCZ Vertex Turbo is a waste of money IMO. It's out already and the price is $400+ for 120GB. The faster (than Intel's) sequential write speed doesn't make it up.

 

I turn them both on.

 

OCZ's 1 TB Colossus SSD Costs $2200
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/OCZ-Colossus-SSD-1TB,8376.html

 

i have both on. i can accept losing maybe the last some saves of something in case of a system crash, or hard cut power out (unlikely on a laptop).

else, just enable the first one.

 

Lol you wanna pay that much more than the regular vertex all for just 14mhz faster DRAM and maybe diff firmware!?

This is my post from earlier concerning OCZ's schemes to milk the most out of each drive that they "rebrand":
Post# 7341

 

How is it any different than in the cpu or any other market? you have the same processors binned to different speeds, or some of the cache disabled. Then you price them according to performance and what the market will bare.

You don't feel it worth it to buy a $1000 intel extreme processor but apparently someone out there does.

 

LOL yeah but i would def get the intel ssd over the vertex "turbo" haha

 

Update on Dell: they claim to have shipped my order today, woohoo. So hopefully in a few days I'll be replacing my G.Skill Titan 256GB with a Samsung 256GB and getting cooler temperatures in my notebook.

 

They don't have to turn to access the data, which is the primary reason for the slowdown in loading data from a normal HD.

 

Photofast GMonster V3 microsata 1.8" benchmarks + RB22-J Samsung

It's basically a OCZ Vertex in a 1.8" form factor. Got these benchmarks from photofast themselves. It's 4KB read speeds being faster than Samsung RB22-J AND Intel X18-M so would possibly 'feel' faster than both in. Windows Photofast tell me the 128GB version has faster writes too (is it raid-0 internally?) dvnation sell these, but they're not cheap. The same results confirmed by another user's benchmarks (OCZ Vertex 60GB). zflashpoint /dskcache.exe can accelerate the write speed. I don't understand why the Samsung 220/210 and PB22-J results 4kb are higher in the latter since it is my understanding they use the same RB22 controller.

mtron mobi 3500

120GB Vertex

OCZ Vertex 60G (00.P97/1275)

SAMSUNG PB22-J 64G

256GB Corsair P256 (Samsung PB22-J)

160GB X25-M G2

Runcore 1.8" ProIV microsata

220/210 128GB Samsung

Toshiba 128GB THNS128GG4BAAA-N

100/80 64GB SLC Samsung

 

Is this the Dell # J246M that they are selling for $479? If so, please post your impressions once you get it. I"m on the fence on whether to pick one of these up, or wait for a 160 GB Intel (I can get by with 160GB). My bigger concern is the inability to flash the firmware on the Samsung to support TRIM in the future.

Thanks!

 

Does anyone know when the Intel G2 will be back in stock?

 

For what it is worth, NewEgg states 8/28/2009.

 

Same here. I think I'm going to wait for the Intel, though. 256GB for $480 is a great per GB price. But I don't need 256 on my notebook. 120-160 would suffice. If the Samsung were, say, $239 for 128, then I might go in that direction. But as long as the Intel is 'big enough' and cheaper in absolute cost...that's what I'm going to purchase.

 

I've seen dates of late August.

 

Man, the new Toshiba's look really good. I wonder if these are the new Jmicrons... I thought I remember reading that the MSRP for the 256GB drive is $399.

 

This Intel delay is really killing me. With delays like this and demand sky high, they are clearly going to resist lowering prices for quite a while. People should just stop buying SSDs, QC CPUs and high end graphics cards. Aren't we supposed to be in recession?

 

No kidding. I have a Win 7 upgrade coming in October, so I've decided not going to do anything until then.

 

Amazon says "Usually ships within 2 to 4 weeks"

 

There is absolutely no indication that the demand is "sky high". Yeah, you see people on this forum lusting for them, but the general public could care less. When the price drops to $1/GB, then we'll see real demand.

 

Yes, and sure. I'll do some basic read/write tests before I migrate my current OS onto it.

Judging from results I've seen other people post, it will be a noticeable improvement over my G.Skill Titan.

 

I had a quick question about mix and matching ssds for RAID 0 performances.
I already own the first Generation 80GB intel x25m (G1).
I see that on amazon, the new G2 intel 80GB x25 are much cheaper. Would if be a good idea to mix the two different generation x25-M and use it in a RAID 0 configuation?
What would be the performance gain? Will the first gen x35m be a bottle neck? Is it a bad idea to mix these two ssd? Should I get first gen x25m to RAID with the one I already have?

 

I lol'd at the "vibration test" in the video xD

 

Great! Thnx

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storag..._Latest_Solid_State_Drives_by_Week_s_End.html

"“We have already found the fix. We are in the process of validating now, and it should be ready to distribute by the end of the week,” an Intel spokesperson said."

 

That's a good news. I hope it means the next week G2 will be in shops.

 

Maybe then we can see lower prices all around the ssd market when this thing hits the shelf for real! c'mon $200 128gb indilinx or samsung drive!!! maybe Agility with it's cheaper flash will one day cost less b/c of it! I've seen the agility priced higher than the vertex on some sites!!!

 

funny how i bought a 128gb samsung months ago ebay rocks sometimes

 

What did you ever do with that 128gb 2nd gen MLC sammy?

 

OK, I'm no longer pissed off at Dell, the drive arrived today. It appears to have been manufactured on July 31, so this is a totally new batch. The label also says the firmware version is VBM15D1Q, whatever that means. I just need to run out to Frys and buy an eSata cable...

 

tested it, used it, liked it (it was no second gen, the 64gb one was second gen and just the same in feelable performance). now it's in the spare section, for use f.e. for my windows home server as primary disk, or in a netbook.. i guess the 64gb one might come into my newly received hfx media center (lovely thing), or so.. no clue actually

 

Hmm. Using the eSata port I'm only getting 120MB/sec sequential read out of it (using 1MB block size. A far cry from the 220MB/sec rated; is eSata inherently slower than regular SATA?

 

I concur. Allot of people probally feel like me when they look at the current SSDs, OMG $$$. $1/GB would get me to get a 120gb in a heart beat.

 

Sounds like your port is in SATA 1 mode, which is common for laptops.

 

Yes it is.

 

OK, I occasionally got reads near 220MB/sec reading the raw disk. Reading partition 1 (NTFS) immediately dropped it to around 180MB/sec peak. I then recreated the partition table, resetting the disk geometry to 256 heads / 32 sectors / 61052 cylinders, and that got partition 1 up to full speed. So, partition alignment is still important for this drive. (Just for reference, the Titan came out to 256 / 32 / 60000, so 251GB vs the actual 256GB on this drive.)

I got interface errors whenever I tried to do large writes to the drive over eSATA, so I couldn't do any further tests. I swapped my old drive out to the eSATA, mounted the new drive internally, and copied all of my partitions over. That all went reasonably fast. Still have some flakiness running on the new drive, but the system seems to be working right now.

eSATA is a bit of a disappointment to me, as far as an external storage solution goes...

edit: Wow, my idle temp is about 6 degrees cooler now, and my battery life has gone up by 45 minutes. That G.Skill Titan was a real pig...

 

good to hear that it is a samsung that dell sells for less than 500 for a 256GB SSD!!!

 

Newegg Daily Shocker is OCZ 120gb summit $289.99. Almost tempting but i think i would still get the intel for $229...

 

k, Mormegil83 beat me to it.

But, I would rather have the Vertex when their prices drop.

 

I have enjoyed ESATA very much. Mainly just backing up to external is MUCH faster than USB. I do not have an SSD yet, but I will soon.

 

you should love backing up to a home server over gigabit lan, then (and an ssd, which you get soon since years now )

 

OCZ originally planned that the Samsung drives would be "higher end" than the Indilinx, due to Samsung's extremely stable reputation and Indilinx being a newcomer. It would seem now that the underdog pulled a fast one with extremely upgradable firmware and Samsung is at the bottom of the top three leading SSD controller manufacturers. I don't think Samsung will want to sit at #3 for long...

My speculation is that, with the considerable drop in price of the samsung drives, we are likely to see samsung 3rd generation MLC's shortly. With better controller and higher capacity. Cheaper? I think so!

Samsung is the leading manufactur of NAND FLASH, right? I say if intel can do it, Samsung will too.

 

I simply can't relate. I still remember buying 1 MB (not GB) of ram at $100 per stick and a 40MB (not GB) hd for $250.00. I was ready to buy a X25E for $1000 when they came out, it was going to breathe new life into my 2-year-old notebook which cost me 3 times that much.

Prices of everything to do with computers or electronics defys all logic. It's beyond belief how anything can be made for the money they're charging. It's all way too cheap, but I'm not really complaining, honest...

I'll buy one of the 160g X25MG2 when they start shipping, and probably a 320g when those start shipping. It's a no-brainer and the best money that could be spent to speed up a notebook. I bought a quad-core notebook a few months back thinking it would be uber-fast. Nope. No faster (and probably slower) than my current dual-core. Took it back and bought a new battery for my current NB instead. It's now full of RAM, has the fastest NB HD available at the time (the Hitachi 7K200, I think?) so the only thing left is the getting an SSD. I can't wait.

 

mr.x: you got it right

people still think of ssd as storage, and validate the cost against the storage. they should just realize that they pay 2x to 10x as much for a laptop as they pay for an ssd, yet the ssd makes the biggest possible impact on performance on the laptop.

and your example is great: you bought a quadcore laptop. for that money, you can now get a nice new battery + ssd + ram and all, and have more benefit than doing otherwise.

this is what a lot of people don't get. ssd's are cheap, compared to the gains you get from there.

 

Stupid question : If i change my actual hdd for a ssd, would the windows activation key provided by Acer be still operational ??? cause i've read somewhere that the key is linked to the lap components.