The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

I would go with the crucial indilinx 128gb drive for $295US (?), but honestly wait until intel hits the market again, prices may get better

 

yes. new firmware is there, so it's only really a matter of days, till they hit the shops. and we finally see the price drops all around.

 

any one have bench marks for the new crucial 64gb m225 and 32gb

 

128 MB :

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=850

256 MB :

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2846/crucial_m225_256gb_solid_state_disk/index.html

That's all i managed to find FTM.

 

me too i m considering getting one

 

Err.... why are electronics so damn expensive in the UK? a simple 80GB X25 would set me back £207...

207 British pounds = 342.2952 U.S. dollars

What's the price of G2 X25 in US atm?

 

$230. Europeans in general are ripped off if they want to buy products from US manufacturer.

 

Link

 

So Samsung is wanting SSD to become gaming standard by touting something that SSD's already do.

Talk about stating the obvious.

"Hey guys did you know a SSD would load a game faster...just like everything else"

 

It's called "smart marketing". Have some respect

 

Well, lower the price already. for $479 it's still almost ten times more expensive than a normal 250GB HDD.

 

Compared to every other SSD solution, it's pretty cheap

 

Em... does anyone know if newegg has X25 stock?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167005&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Solid+State+Disk-_-Intel-_-20167005

 

You're looking at the wrong one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016 is the second-gen drive.

 

looks like they have an eta on there now. 8/28

 

Intel Fixes Bug of Latest Solid-State Drives, Resumes Shipments.

Intel’s Second-Generation X25-M SSDs Available Again
[08/11/2009 04:36 PM]
by Anton Shilov, XBitLabs.com

Intel Corp. this week resumed shipments of its second-generation X25-M solid-state drives (SSDs) after it discovered a firmware bug and had to correct it. Intel’s partners will either have to re-flash existing stock of the X25-M based on 34nm NAND flash memory or send the SSDs back to Intel.

The new firmware that corrects the bug which affected early batches of Intel X25-M SSDs is available at the company’s web-site. The chipmaker advices end-users to precisely follow the re-flash instructions and also keep in mind that firmware update is done entirely at end-users’ own risk.

Late in July Intel had to stop shipments of its new SSDs because of a bug. According to numerous reports citing Intel, when a user sets a password in BIOS to limit accessibility to the drive and then either changes or removes it, data becomes corrupted. If a password is not set, the error does not occur. In order to fix the issue, Intel needs to update the firmware on its X25-M second generation SSDs, which effectively suspends shipments.

Compared to its previous 50nm version, the new Intel X25-M offers 25% reduction in latency for quicker data access. Besides, Intel X25-M delivers 6600 4KB write IOPS and up to 35000 read IOPS. The original Intel X25-M features up to 250MB/s sequential read speed and up-to 70MB/s sequential write speed and offers 1.2 million hours MTBF. Actual performance figures for the new X25-M were not revealed now.

Intel X25-M 80GB costs $225 for quantities up to 1000 units, the 160GB version is priced at $440 for quantities up to 1000 units.

 

I think Google might be able to use at least one.

 

It looks like Amazon is taking order for the Intel G2 but it "Usually ships within 2 to 4 weeks."

 

Ran across this story. I think it offers a glimpse into SanDisk's think about flash memory prices and SSDs. It seems they are worried that they don't like the market forces and current downward price trends... so much so they don't see it as a profitable industry. Companies can't reap profits to poor back into developments... or justify Wall Street capital investments. I wonder if that has played a part in the G3 not being released so far.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/170122/flash_prices_wont_support_investments_sandisk_chief_says.html

Note I realize that the Barefoot controller drives hitting market first and possible firmware issues are the primary reasons.

 

OCZ Solid 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-ssd-indilinx-mlc-flash,8441.html

 

ncix is taking orders for the G2.... oh, now I'm torn... G2 or M225 128GB... agh!

what do you guys think? I'm more conserned about OS load time than anything else.

 

then intel... DUH!!! only reason to get the m225 is capacity/price

 

I've seen benchmarks that show the M225 as a 8MB/s faster in random reads.
the intel was 30MB/s faster sequentail read, and 45MB/s faster random write.

so isn't random read more important? so does anyone have a clue when the new intels are going to be instock?

 

end of month available on newegg. that's the only info we can see right now..

 

newegg only sells the 'crap' to canada, the intel 80GB was just listed for canadians about a month ago. I use newegg to price match ncix.com

 

Em... anyone knows a US based SSD shop that does UK delivery?

 

I would still say intel g2, but i have never used either, just going off what others say...

I'm not sure if anyone on here has use and indilinx drive AND an intel to really give you some advise from experiance...

I go back and forth between getting two CHEAP (not as slow as the Solid 2 specs ) i inidilinx drives and raid0ing them now or get the x-25m g2 now and raid0 it later if the price drops and performance isn't on par with the market at that time or i want more ssd capacity...

 

Hi all,

i have read a lot of topics about Intel X-25, OCZ, samsung, Crucial...

But i´m not sure which to get for LENOVO W500

Any help for a good SSD relation Price/perfomance and good choice?

Thanks in advanced.

 

Intel is still the supposed king of ssd especially with the g2 for only $229 80gb
OCZ and Crucial both use indilinx and should react similar to the intel (Not as good) but faster seq writes, many firmware revisions
Samsung slower random writes but faster seq writes, best power consumption, $479 for 256gb, very stable, an over all "slower feel" possibly than the other two

 

ncix is not shipping the G2.

 

I don't think anyone is/can right now....

 

Intel G2 would be my choice at this point in time.

 

Yeah. we'll have to see what happens to all of the price tags when the intel G2 is back on the virtual shelves

 

Ok, then G2 is a main option, only have to wait because on newegg out of stock.

another question, is G1 or G2 are better?

 

G2 is better of course! Don't need to cross post in the Lenovo forum, so I'll just reply here.

 

I tried to download the zip file, download successfull but extraction process indicates a damaged file header so cannot unzip the file. Can you repost?

 

New samsungs not slower than vertex:

http://blog.nabe.jp/archives/000180.html

 

we can't read japanese, so it's hard to even find out which one is which in those benchmarks.

and still, samsung feels slower. that got reported not just by me (but how much have experienced samsung and another ssd (or two))

 

And are you sure this was not placebo effect ?

 

Underneath the pictures there is English... Left is Samsung and right is OCZ.

 

Anand seemed to be unimpressed. not saying he didn't have some making up to do with OCZ and other jmicron rebranders that now us indilinx, but he does seem to be a reputable source.

not to mention everything i've read to this point says indilinx does a better job with random writes than samsung...

But like i said only SSD I ever used is the 2nd gen sammy SLC i've got. So i couldn't tell ya from experience...

 

I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who has had the chance to use each an Intel, Indilinx, and new-gen Samsung drive side by side on comparable setups.

Benchmarks can only tell us so much, and subjective ratings of a drive's "feel" will differ from person to person. I suggest everyone send their drives to me for impartial evaluations

 

For those of you who can't read Japanese... (though it is still tough to read)

http://translate.google.com/transla...hives/000180.html&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=

 

When I had a Samsung, it did also feel not as fast as when I had an early Gskill Jmicron. However, the Gskill only ran for about 15 minutes before Outlook brought it to its knees, never to get up.

 

Anyone have any experience with the newer-ish corsair extreme series?

Uses the Indilinx Barefoot controller so should be pretty fast.

 

I'm still trying to get rid of Jmicron... oh, common! get the new Intel in stock!!!!!!!

 

Does Toshiba use the new Jmicrons? Seems like no one knows what controllers they use, but they perform well...

 

I rike how that transration measures "Lead" and "Light" speeds.

Also folks, remember that it's comparing the 256gb Samsung to a 60gb Vertex. 120gb and 250gb Vertexes perform faster.

 

http://www.cpu3d.com/review/8000-5/...0gb-ssd/crystaldiskmark-sandra-disk-test.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/954/8/

The Agility looks like a winner. Cheaper than the Vertex and similar performance... (same controller I think?) The 120GB Vertex IS faster than the 60GB version, and while Samsung has lower speeds, it still has no stutter and a very good alternative for value.

 

It's true that for people looking for a 250gb SSD, a $479 Dell-Samsung sounds a heck of a lot nicer than a $700 250gb Vertex.