The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

XP SP2 on Super Talent MasterSrive SX 64 GB, no tweaks at all.

 

ssht, he likes his summit samsung drive, still thinking, it's good don't hurt his feelings

but yeah, i've seen lower numbers. i had less than that with vista and the mtron ssd, even while only having 80MB/s read speed.. and win7 should be faster at booting and all..

 

yeah, i knew it wasn't so good, read the posts @ win7 forums and saw the numbers most were getting 35-40 sec restarts. I have some startup/shutdown problems need to troubleshoot. I think it is from some tweaking I did early on--never had any problems with hdd, no tweaks and win7.

 

yeah.. rule one about tweaking is "don't"

if your drive doesn't glow fulltime during the bootup, you have to search somewhere else to speed up. else it's the drive (+ the tweaks that killed all performance).

 

Intel not making SSDs to make a killing in the storage industry. They are in it to sell high end CPUs and I'm sure MOBOs if they stick they're controller on them. People don't need to buy an i7 or better processor if they are being bottlenecked buy storage. Intel doesn't want people thinking, this is fast enough considering i'll have to spend a lot to gain a little.

Intel already has te SSD market all but at they're mercey. They have what's considered the best ssd by nearly if not everyone, and what do they decide to do? Cut prices in half! They r either trying to monoplolize the SSD market by lowering prices so much that companies like sandisk say it's not even worth bothering to compete or they are trying to finally revolutionise storage with a whole new perspective.

Turbo memory and braidwood are small steps in this direction. I'm hoping with SSD becoming so well known and mainstream now and people can clearly acknowledge it as a faster, BETTER storage solution, that intel will be able to make SSD ok with everyone, but before it REALLY takes over the storage market they can throw a contoller on there MOBOs and say here you go everyone! Super affordable, super powerfull storage for CHEAP! NOW BUY OUR COMPONENTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS!!!

Edit: Then if other MOBO manufacturing companies like EVGA and ASUS (and whoever else) could have there choice, put an Intel "FLASH storage controller" on their MOBO, or an Indilinx, or a Samsung, or Sandforce, or Jmicron, or Toshiba, or Sandisk, or Mtron (whoever is making SSD controllers).

They could even just put a "FLASH storage controller" socket on MOBO's and then you can buy the controller seperate, just like a CPU or GPU.

You could the buy "FLASH storage" similar to how we buy RAM and inserts sticks of "FLASH storage" into slots.... Just like RAM...

OR, going the RAM route, get rid of the "FLASH storage controller" all together and have the roided out CPUs be the controller and just slot in sticks of "FLASH storage". We will call it... ARAM: Almost Random Access Memory

Intel if you have any job openings PM me haha or anyone else who wants summa dis!

Sorry for anyone unfortunate enough to read this mumbojumbo haha

SATA 3 IS ALREADY OBSOLETE!!! WE DON'T WANT NONE A' DAT WEAK SAUCE!!!

 

hey guys, I had posted my Intel SSD R/W speeds last week here and somebody said that my laptop might be only Sata 150 since my readings were kinda low. Here is Panasonics response:

Thank you for your continued support of Panasonic Toughbook computers.

Transfer rate to and from buffer is Max 1.5Gbps and the hotline is 24/7

Regards,
Panasonic Computer Solutions Company
Technical Support Center (USA)

Does this tell me 150 or 300? Sorry for the newbie type question on this.

 

1.5Gbps is SATA1 or SATA150
So yeah your SATA connection is definitely bottlenecking your drive

 

Well that sucks! I guess the Intel-E was a waste of money?

 

not really, as it's still the fastest drive. the slower fastest-read-spead-possible doesn't matter that much. it's the random read writes that matter.. and there, it should still excel.

the only issue could be, that the throttling to sataI might give stuttering like issues.. but maybe not, maybe depends on the chipset, too.

 

I think I will pick up that crucial 128GB .. done well in tests ...

 

Yeah, unfortunately sometimes SATAI speed throttling results in stuttering, even if you're using such a good drive as Intel X25-E (refer to jlingo post back somewhere in the original 100 pages of this thread )

 

yep, that's why i stated the possible stuttering issue. jlingo was the guy experiencing this.

 

Yep this SSD seems to be the best bang for buck ATM. I don't see any major flaw. He did well in every tests. I bought a M225 64GB myself. Will not perform as good as the 128 GB but still should be pretty decent.

 

I don't have any stuttering, so far that is.... The only thing that really suprised me when I installed the drive is the start up speeds. Everything you read is blink of an eye start up. I have used it with W7 RTM, and Vista SP2, the current start up with Vista is right around a minute, and that's with only about 5 programs in the start up program. My other Toughbook with W7, with a WD10K Black Scorpion loads in half the time as this one?

 

BTW, here is a good article I found yesterday on SSD comparisons.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ssd-x25-m-vertex,review-31671.html

 

I have an M225 Crucial 64Gb drive in my dell 6400 with 32 bit Vista, It seems to be good, I installed from a disk image so the drive may not be alligned properly but seems to work ok. I'm not sure if I should do this but have been running the Wiper.exe on this drive that comes from the G.Skill Falcon (I have that in another netbook) it seems to run, of course I'm not sure if its working but it will run without errors. Here is a short bench as I did not want to hammer the drive so limited it to 256 Mb, Its a new baby...

 

Wait - I thought the wiper program was an indepedent dos prompt program?

 

It runs in a DOS / CMD Window in vista as Admin fine as far as I can tell, it will run. I never checked if it is supposed to be run only in a DOS boot environment.

 

Did anyone watch the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNlAOi1vroU I posted a while back ?

The main guy is a long time Intel person, Al Fazio, an Intel Fellow and Director of Memory Technology Development in the Technology Manufacturing Group.
Very cool guy Intel are lucky to have him.

For some daft reason the video only gets going about 5:30 after starting. I found it very interesting for the bits I could understand.

The thing I took home was that its only just starting now, we have a lot to look forward to down the road

Also that this technology seems to have a lot of details.

If you took a look what did you think ?

 

someone's selling his G1 as he got a G2. 400$ for 160GB here

 

Let me guess...

 

I let you..

and?

 

u got a G2 already?

 

no. no need for it, i have a G1. and mtrons.. and samsungs.. maybe i even wait for gen3? (or 2.5 or what ever)..



my next plan is a core i5, passive cooled, in a drawer, 7cm high.. it would run most likely with my two mtrons in raid0, but unsure..

 

I'm planning to part with my 80GB G1 once I get my hands on a 160GB G2, probably in the $185ish range. I'm hoping that'll still be a good enough price point once I get around to selling.

 

I found some more info on the OCZ Z Drive... not that it pretains to notebooks. but cool none the less.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Reva...ter-Packs-Same-Performance-Specs-120826.shtml

 

This video just re-affirms why I've mostly been an Intel person. Intel, being the 800 pound gorilla, takes it's position very seriously and although mistakes have been made by them, usually, what they deliver is worth buying.

They are worth buying because they are not using a shotgun approach to get your business. They offer 'this' level of performance and if you want it, you must pay their price; what you get in return is the industries best guarantee (their track record) that your system/business/data/reputation will not be jeopardized as it might be by a newcomer or underdog that is willing to bet on unproven/misguided technology to just simply oust the industry leader.

Even though they are criticized for not offering the 'best' technology (at the best price) they are capable of at any given time, they are the only chip maker that is actually raising the bar with each product released (compared to their previous versions) and guiding their customers towards the future of computing.

They are the only chipmaker I know that has a clear plan on their future - even when other companies were at the top (in one metric or another), the other companies didn't leverage that advantage for their customers - at all.

Sure, Intel may take little side excursions that may seem like a dead end, but that doesn't absolve us as consumers on making solid decisions on our needs, our wants and the tools currently available (the tools not only Intel offers us, but the whole market too).

The few times (three) that I chose other than Intel (chips/chipsets), I have regretted it big time. I may have been behind the performance curve for a few months (even a year, I'll admit) by sticking with Intel, but with each new cycle (tick/tock) I analyzed my (computing) needs and at some point realized that Intel had once again produced something that offered real value to me; I was once again, current, efficient, but Most importantly... I was always consistently productive.

As to all the other manufacturer's, I wish them the best of luck (it will only force Intel's hand and give us 2020 technology in 2011, at 2009 prices!).

Although all the other (SSD) manufacturers may know the same information that Intel knows, I don't think that is enough.

Like Albert Einstein said; "Information is not knowledge.", you still need a vision. Intel seems to have this vision for a long time now, other companies vision just seems to be 'dethrone Intel'.

This video reaffirms to me that the answers you get, depend on the questions you ask.

So far, I like Intel's questions better than anyone else's.

They mirror my values for computing far better than anyone else's.

I just wish I could afford them more!

 

Intel plans to introduce value drives.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15444/1/

"Intel has revealed its plan to introduce another 34nm flash drive and call it the X25-V. The V stands for Value and this will be Intel's first 40GB SSD drive. The introduction is scheduled for Q4 2009 and it should be cheap, but we don't have any more details than that."

 

O RLY

This sounds like it may be the perfect product for me...to be released in the near future, just the right size, and sure to be quick. I just wonder how much "value" they will offer.

 

Based on the X25-M 80GB price-per-GB, I would expect it to be around $100-120. Wonder if we'll finally see it hit less than 3 digits!

 

If X25-M is to X25-V is like X25-E is to X25-M, it might be more than capacity that makes up the differences. I mean, the V isn't there just because its a half capacity drive. Expect both random and sequential speeds to be significantly slower then. Still probably not slow as JMicrons though.

 

doesn't matter. as long as i can put it in any pc around here to see some gain (probably less into laptops if it's that size..)..

next target for intel: a cheap X25-S. very slow IOPS, but huge storage (i'd take a X25-S 1TB, actually, i'd take 4 of them )

 

zipzoomfly has G2's back in stock, FYI

 

...For $300

 

Only the 80GB, and that's been bumped to $300. Shopblt has 41 of the 80GB G2s in stock for $248: http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop...1300000U0123_BBC4878P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!

 

Anyone have any ideas why i can't get atto to run on my newly RAID0ed Agilities?

 

Amazon has them for $250.00 - $269.00
NewEgg is still up at $349.00 to $379.00 - sigh...

Anyone remember what the best price was for 80g and 160g G2 before the recalls started?

 

Mein gott !!! Intel ssds' prices are rocketing high. It becomes very boring to see that...

 

I think the first sold around $450 in newegg, but they went out of stock almost instantly, and ever since never been that low. I just ordered one 160g g2 for $480, tired of waitng.

 

Wow! Makes a change for the UK to be cheaper than the US for tech stuff, especially new tech stuff. Here the 80GB is $240 (pre-tax) and the 160GB is $470. Ah! Just checked and they're out of stock again - glad I bought mine when I did.

 

Those prices are still available from some vendors in the US, and will be more widespread once the vendors are fully stocked. Right now they can raise prices because of tight supply but that shouldn't last for long.

 

I just ordered one from ShopBLT.com for $250 with free shipping. There are only 3 left.

 

Who needs Intel...

 

That's your Agility X 2 RAID? Nice!

Vertex 30GB $79 After $20 rebate.

This is the same pricing that newegg had when they first came out and nobody knew how they would perform.

Of course, the downside is this is from ecost.com

 

Unless write cacheing is on by default i didn't event enable that yet either

 

I want to pick an Agility 60GB up but I need to sell my Vertex first to offset my cost.

 

My Vertex under Windows 7 will hang quite a bit when I open the lid of my M17x (wake from sleep).

Anyone else having this type of issue with their Vertex?

 

Where'd you find one for $480? That's about $100 cheaper than anywhere I've seen!

 

sleey0,

I don't have a Vertex, but a client allowed Windows Update to update their video card driver (on an HP notebook) and they were experiencing the same issue(s).

When they told me what they did, I gave them 'the talk' (you never, ever do it!) about updating drivers from Windows Update (update only from the notebook manufacturer's website).

I also simply rolled back the driver to their previous version and their computer was fast again.

I hope it is something as simple for you to track down too, good luck!

 

Man only update drivers from manufacturer??? That would leave most peoples laptops obsolete as soon as they get it in most cases... (ok so maybe not, but I know what saying )