The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

I thought daveperm has it? 3.5" instead of 2.5" but performance should be the same ...


How are the Mtron 3500 drives?
Can someone do some real world benchmarks?

e.g. boot time, shutdown, starting photoshop, opening a very large file, starting outlook, ...

 

MemoRight SSD Pricing has just dropped 15%-20% (rocketdisk.com/index.php?cPath=8) in MSRP. I read everybody's comments on the MemoRight SSD. So here's my thoughts! MemoRight SSD is a premium product & you guys are right - it is priced as such. But in 2.5" 128GB (& even in 2.5" 64GB), there is no other SSD in the world right now that performs like this one, especially in Write Speed & IOPS. It is exceptionally fast, consistent & reliable.

 

The 2.5" & 3.5" in the Mtron 3500 Series do have identical technical architecture & performance.

I think Dave may have already posted some nice benchmarks

 

Johnny, wanna send one of those new Mobis my way ? I will gladly test it in my brand spankin' new NC10! Heh..

 

Lol. I wish I could

 

link?


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Search on ebay for Cavalry eagle or Cavalry pelican. Sheesh, who thinks these names up and who makes them really?

 

price says MLC for the Pelican and SLC for the eagle ... specs are listed as being very similar?

http://www.buy.com/prod/cavalry-pel...ernal-external-solid/q/loc/101/208410821.html

http://www.buy.com/prod/cavalry-eag...ernal-external-solid/q/loc/101/209334693.html

Pelican:
Features
64 GB 2.5 SSD
Sequential read/write: 130MB/sec & 90MB/sec
Random read/write: 80MB/sec & 25MB/sec
Noiseless (Acoustic = 0dbB)
Ultra-durable (Operation temperature 0C to 70C and withstands Operation shock 15000G)
Low power consumption (5V, 200mA)
Complete metal casing
Mean time before failure (MTBF): 1,300,000hrs +
Access time: 0.1ms


Eagle:
Features
64 GB 2.5 SSD
Sequential read/write: 120MB/sec & 80MB/sec
Random read/write: 80/MB/sec & 25MB/sec
Noiseless (Acoustic = 0dbB)
Ultra-durable (Operating temperature 0C to 70C and withstands Operating shock 15000G)
Low power consumption (5V, 200mA)
Complete metal casing
Mean time before failure (MTBF): 1,300,000hrs +
Seek time: 0.1ms

 

Yeah, I always suspect things named after Birds

 

hm, MTron 3000 is faster in random writes than MTron 3500 ... 130 vs. 60 IO/s respectivelly. That's what the data sheats say

 

I do not want a cheaper drive that does not work as well, I want a cheaper drive THAT WORKS BETTER.

When are the companies going to grok that piece of information, I wonder?

 

Has anyone managed to try the newer revision of the Transcend TS64GSSD25S-M 64GB MLC SSD? The package is red and black.

I've tried Googling around but everything is in Japanese.. Using the Google translator I can only make out things like 'not so JMICRON-ish'. What is 'not so JMICRON-ish'? lol.

 

Samsung begins production of 256GB SSDs announced earlier this year.
Using a proprietary controller they have achieved write speeds of 200MB/s

Another site has read speeds marked as 220MB/s

If the price is around their 128GB Release prices, i think this is the one....

Link is in KOREAN
http://www.heraldbiz.com/SITE/data/html_dir/2008/11/21/200811210253.asp

 

Not sure if any one has seen this but here is a review on Intel's x25-e.

236mb read and 207 write!!!


http://techreport.com/articles.x/15931/1

Jesse

 

Nice spot.



Stunningly quick.

 

the X25E is for enterprise applications, the cost is around 800$ for 32GB drive right now. Although the speed is impressive.

 

Hi all,

Below are CrystalDiskMark scores from the recent Samsung SLC and MLC drives. Both are installed in a thinkpad T400 on the same system. Enjoy.


Sequential Read : 96.038 MB/s
Sequential Write : 42.005 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 93.809 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 33.045 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 15.944 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 5.718 MB/s

Test Size : 100 MB
Date : 2008/11/24 20:50:58
::Comment::
Samsung 64GB MLC at 95% full.


Sequential Read : 98.829 MB/s
Sequential Write : 70.507 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 97.526 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 59.870 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 16.131 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 5.581 MB/s

Test Size : 100 MB
Date : 2008/11/24 20:50:30
::Comment::
Samsung 64GB MLC


Sequential Read : 103.291 MB/s
Sequential Write : 96.495 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 99.086 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 86.161 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 17.218 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 5.638 MB/s

Test Size : 100 MB
Date : 2008/11/24 20:49:53
::Comment::
Samsung 32GB SLC

 

Small random writes on the Samsung MLC and SLC are supposed to be almost the same?

 

The good folks at www.storagereview.com have ALWAYS "searched for reviews and user feedback to get the right drive". Back in the day, that site was active and the only one of its type. Anyone remember Big Buck Hunter? Darn, that was one knowledgeable and intelligent fellow. One could really learn stuff back in the day

Dave

 

I have great respect for Eugene and SR. It is too bad they have been hit by the tough times.

 

Yes, I still visit there as often as possible. Sometimes there is a good thread or 2. But man, it is a shame that it has slowed down so much.

Back in the day when Anand was getting his start SR was excellent competition for him

 

It would seem that someone has found a free "fix" for SSDs that suffer from poor random write performance:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46804

If the fix works well it certainly would make the large and cheap MLC-drives a lot more desirable.

 

Really interesting post, especially given how cheap the Core series are now. Cheers jketzetera.

 

Small random writes on the Samsung MLC and SLC are supposed to be almost the same? That flies in the face of logic.

 

Does the cache file of SteadyState write to ram or it just writes to disk anyways? In what way do random writes become sequential writes on an SSD if it writes to disk, and what does random write mean on an SSD? It can't mean not "physically contiguous" can it?

 

as the cache file of steadystate "protocolls" each file change, it does indeed write sequencially every file change after another.. that results, together with disk caching, in sequencial writes.

i've used steady state before but haven't thought about it's use for mlc ssd's. steadystate is very cool for kiosk-based environments..

 

Well I have a ACER 6920G got a couple questions.
I have read about 50 pages of this thread. You guys have been talking about the super highend. Personally I believe my own ideas are that. Maybe using a good SD card in my sd card slot. Looking at the Sandisk 25mbs rated or Lexar 133x which is about 12-18ish for a Readyboost/pagefile/internet cache so i thought about a 8gb one of those. With a 64gb ssd by unknown manufacture right now. I'm thinking about 300 dollar price tag originally. The idea behind that is in 18 months it will be super obsolete from trends in this sector but I would like the performance of this now.

So theory time
GSkills 64gb for 149 with 155read and 90write
Lexar 8gb sdhc with 133x for 59.99
or do i go with
Sandisk 8gb with 25mbs writes
and a different ssd

Looking to get quick loads and boot times

Also info on how to Nlite vista off a acer system restore disk if possible.


64gb should come down in price alittle more maybe to get a nice samsung.
I have been trying to get it to boot faster and

 

Good idea if you have a valid concern that vibrations might destroy your HDD. Otherwise, I very very bad idea.
All cheap MLC SSDs are slower than pretty much every notebook HDD.
If you want speed, get a very large 7,200rpm HDD ... it will smoke the MLC SSD. I tried it with the Patriot Warp V2.

The only option for you would be to get the Mtron Mobi 3500 64GB for close to $400 or get a 32GB SLC SSD.

 

Heh …... this actually works!! (well .. at least on my system)

A friend of mine has an OCZ Core drive that he stopped using in his notebook because of performance problems (system pauses etc.). I had him come over and we cloned my system partition to the Core drive.

As expected, my system came to a complete crawl running on the OCZ Core drive. I then followed the instructions and installed Windows SteadyState.
Lo and behold! The system was transformed from a stuttering snail into something that felt like a fast SLC-drive!!!

Oh the irony ……….. Microsoft developing new ATA commands to fix SSD performance in their next OS while existing free PC kiosk software gives an incredible performance boost on first generation MLC-drives.

 

Are you running XP or Vista? Shame SteadyState doesn't run on 64-bit.

 

XP Pro 32bit

 

Here is another review of the x25-e vs x25-m

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3454973#post3454973

for some reason the x25-m gets faster reads than the x25-e wierd!?!

again this is in a desktop but I haven't seen a review of the x25-e in a notebook yet

 

Well I just bought an OCZ Core V1 128GB for $194.99. If this fix works what an absolute bargain!

 

That's a bargain. Where did you buy it?

 

Will send you a PM - want them to process my order before posting on here

 

Directron.com has the 128 OCZ v2 SSD's on sale here. $200 after $90 rebate.

 

That's where I ordered mine but wasn't going to post until I had dispatch e-mail

Also $5 off coupon to make it $194.99: SUPER200

 

The mtron 64 GB SLC is now in stock at rocketdisk.

 

Pretty good deal.


Is it possible to move the windows restore folder to another partition using junctions/symlinks? (In order to keep restore capability but save space on OS drive)

I've googled and seen people mentioning that you can't straight up move the restore folder because each partition has its own. But if using junctions maybe it would still see it as the same partition.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?

 

Try searching the OCZ forums as I'm sure they've attempted it.

Why don't you just disable System Restore?

 

I would prefer to keep system restore if possible

I searched the ocz forum and found a thread. I cannot post the url because I am a new user. The thread id is 44090.

I posted to it to bump it. It was suggested but it does not look like anybody actually tried it.

 

No it's not. And previous ETA was mid November.
MSD-SATA3525-064 - ETA: 12/01/08. NOW ACCEPTING PRE-ORDERS.

 

ocz core v2 30gb at newegg for $69.00 with $20 Rebate

I know most here put them down but man that's cheap!

 

so you guys are watching us ehh

Steadystate works for 32bit XP and vista, we are looking at Deepfreeze next for 64bit OS

 

I was checking the site at work and I thought it said it was in stock, sorry about that.

 

We're always watching... our eyes are everywhere

Mostly just waiting for an MLC drive with 250gb+ capacity and speeds near what intel is posting. Do that and i'll order them by the bucket load (well at least enough to put in all 3 of my laptops and both desktops)

The day they come in 500gb+ capacity is the day my server gets 10 new hard drives

ah a boy can dream

 

or you could release a non-defective product or at the very least write your own software to fix the problems with your drives instead of relying on the side effects of other's software.

 

OK, had me interested again in the cheap MLCs. But still, what's the power consumption? Anybody got figures?

And what happens when the cache file gets full in steadystate? Does it automatically commit to disk and start anew without the need of reboot? That would beat EWF, but of all the time i've used EWF, the only time i run out of ram is if i install lots of programs and that only happens after a fresh windows install, and you have to commit it anyways so it might as well stay off then. Problem is i want to make use of all my 4gig of ram but not sure if EWF would work in vista 64, could try but don't have time.

 

It would seem that SteadyState crashes if you exceed the cache file size. However, you can set the cache file size to any custom value up to 50% of the free disk space on the Windows partition.

For those not having sufficient diskspace or not wanting to waste disk space on the cache file, there is a tip to use a small disk monitoring program:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46804&page=3

 

Yesterday I would have agreed with you.

However, now that I have tested an OCZ Core drive in my own system with the SteadyState solution I now disagree.

I had the opportunity to compare my Samsung 64GB SATA-II SLC vs the OCZ Core MLC. The comparison is of course not fair because my system drive is Truecrypt encrypted and I had to decrypt it on the OCZ Core drive because SteadyState is not compatible with Truecrypt.

However, I got almost identical small file copy speed on my Truecrypt encrypted Samsung SLC as I did with the OCZ Core drive running SteadyState (I used the same folders for benchmarking as the poster in the OCZ forum did).

Of course, the Samsung would probably do much better than the OCZ Core drive, if I used SteadyState on the Samsung as well but that is not the point.

The point is that I was able to get performance at the level of my encrypted Samsung SLC drive (which I am quite happy with) from something that now is available for $69.

I currently have no need for a 30GB SSD but if I was building e.g. a HTPC, I would definately go for the $69 OCZ Core drive.

EDIT: $49 after mail in rebate