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    Timings in CPU-Z - Memory and SPD tab discrepancy - what do they mean?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Freakish, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. Freakish

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    When I ran CPU-Z in my netbook, in the memory tab, the timings displayed are 5-5-5-15, but in the SPD tab, the timings are 5-5-5-18 (JEDEC #3).

    What do the differences in the timings between the tabs mean?

    The netbook is a Samsung N150 (Intel Atom N450 1.66 GHZ processor). It has one RAM slot. It contains one 2 GB DDR2-800 RAM stick ("Elixir" brand; made by Nanya). The OS is Windows 7 Starter, 32-bit.

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    CPU-Z report - memory section:


    Edit: Removed a "non-issue" question. See my reply here about this: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/563942-timings-cpu-z-memory-spd-tab-discrepancy-what-do-they-mean.html#post7281588
     
  2. moral hazard

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    I think it reads the ram as ddr3 because there is a mistake in the SPD. You could download thaiphoon burner and check. 5-5-5-15 is normal. 5-5-5-18 would be strange.
     
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    How do I properly check this? I opened up the demo version of Thaiphoon Burner, clicked 'Read' and all the fields in Module Specification states 'Undefined'.

    Also, if it helps, I've run the Windows 7 Memory Diagnostics Tool on standard and it found no errors.
     
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    The 'DDR3 in Memory - General - Type' issue is now a non-issue. It seems to be a problem related to the 1.54 version of CPU-Z. I upgraded to 1.57 and it now states 'DDR 2' properly. I will now edit my first post to account for this.

    The only issue I have left is the timing differences between the Memory and SPD tab.

    What type of info are you looking for exactly? I checked out the RAM stick and there are a lot of numbers and text written on it. Do you just need the serial numbers? I removed them from the screenshots and CPU-Z report for privacy and possible RMA fraud issues.

    I'll try to type the text written in the chipsets here later if I have the time or I'll try to take a picture if I can get hold of a camera.
     
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    To find the datasheet you need to check the info written on the actual memory chips themselves. But that's probably not important.

    The timings seem ok to me, I wouldn't worry about that.
     
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    Do the Memory and SPD tab timings describe different things? Also, what is the actual timing that is being used, the 5-5-5-15 one (Memory tab) or the 5-5-5-18 one (SPD tab)?

    Am I correct if I say that the 5-5-5-15 one (Memory tab) is the default setting supported by the motherboard, while 5-5-5-18 is the timing supported by the RAM stick, and therefore the timing that is being used?

    Another question: What is the difference between the last numbers in the timings (15 & 18), will the 15 timing have significantly better performance than an 18? I would like to know so that in the future, I can better decide on which RAM I should buy. (I just looked for the cheapest 2 GB DDR2-800 RAM stick at local shops and bought it.)
     
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    No I think they are the same.

    The bios can override the SPD and use the timings it wants. So I think it really is running at 5-5-5-15.

    No, it would even be hard to see the difference when running benchmarks.
     
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    I see. Thanks for clearing this up.