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    ULLtraDIMM Solid State Drive - The future of SSDs

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Cloudfire, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. Cloudfire

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    http://www.techpowerup.com/197053/sandisk-announces-release-of-the-ulltradimm-ssd.html
     
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    Cloudfire, Jan 21, 2014
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    Wonder when we'll get a bootable, consumer version us mere mortals can use?

    And they don't even mention a price for this! Shocked! :)
     
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    Maybe 2 years down the road or something, we get to buy SSD DIMMs for our notebooks.
    Its a bit sad. Huge performance there just for the taking, but adaption will go painfully slow as always. :/

    I don`t think they will be cheap but atleast its MLC and not expensive SLC.

    So easy to use, just slide it in an empty RAM slot and you are ready to go! I`m convinced this is the future. Ultra low latency and way higher speeds than SATA. Micro seconds instead of milli seconds.


    http://www.diablo-technologies.com/faq.html
     
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    I wonder if your 30% unallocated/overprovisioning will still apply? :p

    I wonder how they would fit these in a laptop form-factor consider the smaller DIMM size?
     
    davidricardo86, Jan 21, 2014
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    If this technology becomes a success, then yeah absolutely.
    Our DIMM are smaller then desktop DIMM so they might have to remove some NANDs (capacity) to make everything fit. Unless we are down to 10nm when they release, then they can probably fit everything on the DIMMs :)
     
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    Lol... I don't want to keep losing 30-50% of my SSD's capacity into infinity!!!


    Hopefully, the controllers they come out with then will be much better behaved/consistent than what most of the controllers we have now.
     
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    So just add 8 SoDIMM slots to a laptop and we're all set. Modularity at its finest. Heck you could probably fit 4 where the HDD/SSD sits today.
     
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    Pretty much. Can`t be easier than this.

    And since they are so close the the CPU you get no latency setbacks with more DIMM modules which you get with normal SSDs. Plus you get faster speeds the more DIMMs you use.

     
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    Where would the RAM go? I'm not just being difficult but I don't think RAM on the APU package will be available at that point yet. So I think we would still need slots for RAM and slots for your SSD. I'm sure they have it all figure out, I'm just thinking out loud.
     
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    6 RAM slots for example. 3x8GB DDR3 and 3x256GB ULLtraDIMM?
    24GB DDR3 and 768GB SSD?

    Should be enough for everyone.
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 22, 2014
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    Considering the large amount of notebooks sold today that don't even have any DIMM slots *cough*Ultrabooks*cough*, I'm skeptical as to whether or not the technology will ever come to notebooks...
     
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    Maybe then should start with DTRs first?
     
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    DTRs are a really tiny market. Actually, the PC industry as a whole is a rather unattractive market to invest in nowadays, with continual declines in sales and shipments every quarter - I wouldn't be surprised if Sandisk has already written it off as a dead end.
     
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    Not hardly. It's still 200M laptop sales annually, hardly anything to sneeze at. Might bring back a couple SoDIMM slots in ultraportables anyhow if they can ditch a SATA and/or mSATA slot even. People act like laptops are dying when in reality it's just normalizing. Laptops had a use where a tablet would have sufficed perfectly fine. Now lots of people that primarily consume data find a tablet more convenient. Chances are they still will buy a laptop, probably just not as frequently as they used to, since the tablet fills that role. Plus tablets are new and "trendy".
     
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    You're right, but how much support do you think Sandisk's VP of R&D would get during the budget meeting if he or she were to show a sales projection graph with year-on-year declines for the next few years, followed by a flat line thereafter?

    I'm thinking that it would be in the VP's personal best interests career-wise not to bring up the subject at all.
     
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    It is small but it is the hardcore niche that will be willing to buy these expensive SSD DIMMs. Not the ultrabook gang that thinks $1000 is much for a notebook.

    But I don`t know. It may need wider support from notebook users, but then again it could be proven so successful on desktops that it will eventually make its way here anyway.
     
    Cloudfire, Jan 24, 2014
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    laptop wont have it anytime soon just like always. sucks.
     
    ole!!!, Feb 15, 2014
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