Upgrade SSD

I took the RBA 2070max q 256gb, I would like to exchange it for a larger one, which is recommended?

I had seen the samsung 970 evo plus. is enough 512gb ssd or better take 1tb?

Are there any "tricks" to avoid taking up too much space with games? a friend of mine told me that he usually installs them and when he doesn't play it he carries the installation folder with the biggest weight in an external HDD and recopies it in the laptop when he wants to play it again without reinstalling it, is it really possible?

 

I think he's using Steam Mover but Steam nowadays lets you copy back/forth between drives almost instantly on separate drives.
If the SSD is solely for games I reckon its better to go for M.2 SATA drive for more capacity because NVMe runs hot under sustained loads and performance will be similar to top end or mainstream SATA.
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/move-steam-games-another-drive-folder

 

Doing the re-copy of files increases the SSD drives overall writes. If you are that pressed for space get a 2tb Intel 660p. If you can though the 1tb 970 evo plus is a nice drive.

 

If you have a Microcenter near by you can purchase an Inland 1TB NVMe SSD for $134. It's as fast as a 970 pro since it uses the Phison PS5012-E12 controller. Just make sure it is the PCIe Gen 3 x 4 version.
https://www.microcenter.com/product...80-pcie-nvme-30-x4-internal-solid-state-drive

 

Any Samsung Evo or Pro from the 850 series up would do. They are durable enough to buy used too.
The Crucial Mx500 is cheap, fast and likely tougher than anything you will throw at it. For that matter the other Crucial's might be slower but mostly tougher.

Really while there is a lot of difference in speed and durability between models anything recent should do the job. But stick to the above for piece of mind.

My vote went to size at the expense of a little speed. Maybe you loose a second here or there that way, but you will save hours of trying to organise too many games onto a too small SSD.

 

yes, he uses steam. it's for gaming, productivity, movies, photo and video editing. I didn't know how they would heat up so much, but if I'm not mistaken, there is already a nmve Samsung mp981 inside The rba


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the intell 660p is really interesting from every point of view, but I saw that it is not reliable for a long time, am I wrong? I'd rather make a sacrifice now with the 970 evo plus 1tb and take my mind off if it's actually the best choice.


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unfortunately no, I'm Italian.


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There are alternatives, MydigitalSSD BPX Pro with higher TBW than Samsung EVO Plus and there's very good drives from ADATA SX8200/SX8200 Pro.

 

there is the adata sx8200 Pro for € 202 against € 237 for the 970 evo plus. both 1tb. is it worth it?


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Both are very good and rarely you notice any difference aside from slow write speed of 2900MB/s on ADATA.
You can ask @custom90gt who uses Non Pro version SX8200 and he said its very good.

 

I'm seeing some tests and it looks really great, especially the power consumption is very small compared to any other.


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BPX Pro in their site advertises to use Samsung NVMe driver for those massive 3.5GB/s reads and 3.1GB/s writes. On standard nvme driver from microsoft writes will be slower by 100-200MB/s because it balances power and performance.

 

Well yes. That adata is if anything faster

Check out Game load time here:
https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-ssd,review-34741-2.html

But like I said, The Mx500 isn't a lot slower in practice - as in loading a game. And for not a lot more you could get a 2tb one.

 

I found only from 1tb to 140 €, is it true that the SATA heats up less than the nvme? in which situations could I notice the difference between the Crucial and the speed in terms of speed?


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Yes difference is almost NIL in game loading and most IO heavy sustained tasks for 5hrs+ SATA pulls ahead of NVMe. If you do short burst loads then choose NVMe otherwise normal SATA will do.

 

Not really sure. You do get faster for more money but the catch is that it does nothing for speed when your machine isn't writing or reading. That is most of the time when your game is loaded and you are playing.

Worst case for most of us is loading - and, as you can see, the time saved is slight. I would imagine even then most of that time is CPU processing.

I am going to say that real speed issues are:

1) The hours you work to pay for it.
2) The hours you wast trying to sort out a solution when the SSD proves too small.

Of course if you buy one that is too big, you can sit and watch it's value drop while most of what you paid for isn't used. No easy answers.

 

It counts on the usage pattern. If you are looking for about 10 years from the drive then you need to keep writes on the 2tb version to just over 50gb a day average (200 TBW). Also there is the 8gb span limit on the high speed cache so heavy writes will slow you down.

 

The 660p is one of the new QVL constructs which shoves 4 bits to a cell.
When the industry first started churning out 3 bits to a cell offerings performance and especially durability took a hit.

I am sure in time such problems will be mostly sorted but I personally would not choose to be an early adopter of QVL.

There is a site that writes SSD's to destruction here:
https://3dnews.ru/938764/page-2.html

Turns out they are in general, far more durable than one would expect which is a comfort. Except for the very worst, you may well die first from normal use.

There is a site with speed tests for just about ever SSD here:
https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/

Not the most definitive of testing but should help avoid the real lemons. Random 4k read is by far the slowest of activities so the one to take the most interest in.

Um. Warning, I bought a well used 850 evo in the 2 1/2 inch Hard disk form factor. I am very happy with it but there are early examples in other form factors with boot problems. Plus nobody wants to be stuck with an 840.

 

I was about to take the adata sx8200 pro 1tb that I found for 180 €, but I found a review where it is strongly discouraged to mount it on a laptop because it heats up too much, even adding the heat sink arrives under stress permanently between 68 ° and 72 ° degrees . I'm not even sure that you can put the heatsink included in the package in a laptop, did someone do it?

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The same applies to 100% of all NVMe M.2 SSDs in a laptop. Even Samsung gets cooked in my laptop it reaches 70-85C w/o thermal pads or heatsink. With heatsink/thermal pads it has dropped to 70C.

 

so I could apply the heatsink without the risk that he won't enter or damage anything else?

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It depends on the laptop design, some allow higher gaps between bottom panel and actual mobo for better airflow. ADATA heatsink is optional. Which laptop are you using? If its a very slim laptop I'd recommend SATA based because NVMe will cook itself and will be running in out-of-spec temps conditions above 70C.

 

Razer Blade advance 2019


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The RTX one? I feel it should fit correctly, its not that big.
@custom90gt Any insight on SX8200 heatsink? Is it too big to fit on Razer 2019 RTX laptop?

 

Yes, rtx 2070 mq


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Well there is one worry. Suppose the heatsink just fits touching the inside of the case. One good thump and its trash.
Would be tempted to check for that. Perhaps ask advice in manufacturer's forum?

 

I'm asking both adata and blazer

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Sadly I don't own a razer or I could better comment on that. I believe that Razer doesn't even have a heatsink or thermal pad on their stock SSD? The heatsink that comes with the SX8200 is pretty thin and may fit depending on room, but I'd rather just use thermal pad and sink it to the bottom case (although that won't work if it's just plastic). However having said all of that, people put the 970 Evo and Pro in their Razer without issue (at least from searching) and those SSDs use almost 2x the power of the SX8200 so my hope is that a bare SX8200 would perform better than those...

 

yes, that's what I think too, the same SSD that is already present on the razer is an NMVE so the temperature will always be the same I suppose.

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