Upgrading v2000z processor

Does anyone know if it is possible to upgrade the processor for the v2000z to one of the Turion MT processors?

Thanks!

 

That is not possible, the BIOS in the V2000Z doesn't support it.

 

You'll void the warranty anyway. Probably better off getting the 12 cell battery.

 

But that would add .7 lbs to the weight of the notebook... So in terms of the BIOS, if I replaced the processor with the MT-37 (2 GHZ) for which HP does not sell a configuration but they do sell one with the ML-37 which is also 2 GHZ and draws the same 1.2v, this would not work?

 

Whether it'll work or not, is replacing your more than adequate ML-37 for a MT-37 to get a little more surfing time on battery worth all the money and hassle?

 

Nope - wouldn't work because HP is not going to release a BIOS update to support the Turion MT-class processor.

Yeah - it's not worth the hassle.

 

Thanks everyone for all your answers. I guess I'm going to wait on buying a laptop at this point. I want something relatively light with decent battery life that I'm going to be able to use for some time. Hence my interest in laptops with the MT processor line. The two models I've been considering are the v2000z and the Fujitsu s2110. Unfortunately, neither is quite what I'm looking for.

 

To ChazMan421 (or anyone?),
You say that the BIOS of the V2000Z does not support any Turion MT. Is that statement based on anyone ever attempting it? Or special info from HP/Compaq? Or what?
I ask because this is the first place I've ever seen anyone say anything that definitive -- others have always just said that there's no way to know for sure until someone tries it. My V2000Z will arrive in a couple days (with ML-37), and I also have an MT-40 and MT-37 chips arriving for the purpose of testing this hypothesis. It would be nice to know ahead of time if this test has already been done.
Thanks much!

Craig
in Michigan

 

Atleast I do not know of anyone we tried it on V2000z, but done on nx6125 successfully.

I am pretty sure it works, worst case scenario you may have to use RMClock to give proper voltages to CPU if bios does not support MT Voltages.

Please make sure you update this post once you have tested, so it will help many other we want to do the same.

 

Hi Craig! I saw your post on amd's forums. Please let us know. I have an mt-40 sitting here. Best buy has got a great price on a v2000z. I'm almost ready to make the jump. Please keep us updated.

Found this thread on amd's forums: http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=66097&pid=607462&st=0&#entry607462 . This guy went from am ml34 to a ml44.

 

I chatted with HP tech support today. They told me it would not be possible to upgrade to am MT. They even told me it would not be possible to upgrade to a higher ML. So I dunno.

 

If you ask HP teck support, they'll tell you that v2000z does not support pc3200. I don't think they have any idea about processor upgrade, unless you are lucky and happen to call a nice guy.
HP support is basically part time workers with internet.Ah, they should visit these forum more often.

 

Well, I've now upgraded the RAM and HD on my new v2000z, but need a hint how to remove the switch cover to proceed with the cpu upgrade from ML-37 to MT-40. I'm trying to follow the service manual for the v2000 (c00444244.pdf from HP website), which is very helpful/necessary, but I can't get the switch cover to come off. After removing the two screws in the battery compartment, I slide screwdrivers into the slots behind the F1, F5, F11, and Insert keys, and the middle of the switch cover seems happy to come up, but not the ends. Has anyone out there done this? Any hints how to do it, without breaking something?

FYI, for the RAM upgrade I used a 1 gb stick of Kingmax pc3200 DDR400 from NewEgg. At first I also left in the orig 256 mb pc2700 stick, benchmarked it, and saw that it was operating at pc2700 speed. So I then removed the slower stick of 256 mb RAM and re-tested. It then was running at the pc3200 speed, and the benchmarks were a bit better. E.g., 1M of SuperPi went from about 50 sec to about 46.3 sec.
The memory settings are now at CAS 3, 3, 3, 8, instead of the original 2.5, 3, 3, 7, but it is faster. I haven't yet tried tweaking these. Of course all the added ram also cut the bootup and shutdown times dramatically, since it's not constantly using virtual memory on the HD.

On the HD, I put in a Hitachi 7K100 7200 rpm 100 GB drive. I haven't noticed any increase in drive noise that some people have mentioned. One thing I discovered is that the HD interface on the v2000z is ATA-5, whereas the HD can handle ATA-6. I don't know if that is a limiting factor on the performance (e.g., did I waste my $$ going to 7200 instead of 5400?).

With all I've done so far:
PCMark04: 3100 orig to 3345 now
PCMark05: 1900 orig to 2164 now

After I get the cpu upgrade done (assuming it works), I will provide the more detailed results.

Craig

 

I just upgraded my v2000z Sempron 3300 to a MT-40 earlier today. The bios (version F.21) recognized it without problem. My PCMark05 Score increased 284 points.

 

WOW! Finally you did it!! You are the man

You proved it that it can be done.!!

Hoo.... Many people were very Pessimistic for some reason over this forum.
I also wonder why no one even responded sofar for such a exciting news!!

Now, we need some CPUZ snap shots to prove...

 

Bravo, tk421! This is really very helpful. Does Power Now! work? I don't expect the BIOS to provide the right voltages, but if it detects it, maybe...Please do post a few screenshots from CPUz and/or RMClock if you udervolt.

 

Did you take any pics of the process? How did you get the keyboard off?

Were you able to use the old Heatsink/fan?

I bought a v2555us sempron from Office depot but it has a
v2000 label on the screen. Think it will work for me?

It would be great if i could manage the same upgrade!

EDIT: Ok i have the F.21 bios too, and i think i really have a v2000z because i also have the ATI xpress 200m.

 

I did not take any pictures while I was working on it, but I will try to post some screen shots showing CPUz and the bios. I just followed the directions in the service manual to remove the keyboard (and everything else).

The v2000z did default the voltage to 1.3v, so I used RMClock to reset it to 1.2v.

 

Nicely done, that will help a lot of people who had questions on the feasibility of this. Nice mod!

Matt

 

If it is running at 1.3v( instead of 1.45V defined for ML), then it is taking voltage spec from Processor.

Actually looks like highend MT-series (esp MT-40 and MT-37s) looks like running with default 1.3v, as is the case with MSI Turion Notebooks with MT-37 and MT-40.

May be that is the spec AMD has give MB makers. But MT-30, MT-34 looks like run at 1.2v even on MSI notebooks.

Anyways, finally we have some clarity about the support of MT proc in V2000z, now we want CPUz shots and some tips/trick in installing the processor.

 

TK 421
Congrats on the upgrade!!...I'm thinking of doing the same. A few questions:

1. Have you noticed a considerable drop in CPU temp with the MT-40?

2. Have you noticed a significant increase in battery life (namely wirelessly surfing the internet)?

3. Any stability issued so far?

I switched from a V2000 (P-M 1.6ghz) to the V2000Z (AMD ML-37)
and have noticed the V2000Z is much much warmer under the left palm rest. Have you also encountered this? Does the MT-40 help in this regard?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am seriously considering doing this mod myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Rob

 

Here is the CPUz screen shot and a quick picture of what the bios looks like.

 

1. I can not really say I have noticed a drop in temperature from the Sempron I had (I believe the MT runs cooler than a ML though) however, I can say that I have not noticed any increase in temperature since I upgraded it.

2. I have to say the same in regards to battery life between the Sempron and the MT. But then again, I never really paid attention to battery life, as I have never had a need to be on the battery (12 cell version) for more than 2-3 hours.

3. No stability issues at all so far. It is running rock solid, and noticably faster. (but again, I upgraded from a Sempron)

As far as the warm area on the left side of the palm rest, I believe that is from the Hard Drive, and a processor switch will do little to change it. (Somebody correct me if I am wrong)

 

If one of you is opening up the top to get remove things can you take a look at the LED controller board (where the power buttons are).

I bought a notebook without a wireless card b/c I did not know about their lock in advance.

I have found a way to overcome the BIOS lock, but I also found that to save money, or screw people over They removed the switch to turn on the wireless card. I have 6 solder pads on the far right for the button, and pads for resistor and LED. What I would like to know is kind of complicated and anything you could help me with I would appreciate.

1) Part number of board, mine is DACT2API6C6 Rev: C

2) Number of wires on ribbon cable. Mine has 20, and it is printed on the circuit board.

3) Any tests of conductivity between pads would be highly appreciated. I tested this and have conductivity between pads that are horizontally opposed and no conductiity between those that are vertically placed.

If you could answer any of those questions I would greatly appreciate it. And yes I have an antenna installed though I had to take the entire laptop apart to slip it behind the LCD screen.

For whoever asked getting the ends out is easy you just flex it up a bit and put a small flat head near the edge (in other words where the catch is so you don't break anything) and gently pry it upwards it pops right out. Taking the LCD apart was a PITA and I don't recommend it though.

 

TK421,
Congrats! You beat me to it -- I gave up a few days ago and decided to pay a pro to get into it (and I don't have it back yet).

So please tell me how far you had to bend up the middle of the switch cover to get it to release? Or was there some other trick that's not fully described in the manual?

Quoting my prior post: After removing the two screws in the battery compartment, I slide screwdrivers into the slots behind the F1, F5, F11, and Insert keys, and the middle of the switch cover seems happy to come up, but not the ends. Any hints how to do it, without breaking something?

And FYI, the latest BIOS on the HP site is F.13 (11/14/2005), but from the description it doesn't sound like anything most people would need.

Craig

 

I already answered. If you flex up on the middle it will break. You need to slide the screwdriver towards the edge of the notebook an pry gently up at the corners. Pro’s don’t always take care. Unless you know them well I would not assume they do a better job than you. The piece is hooked in by tabs on the sides that are closer to keyboard. In addition there are tabs farther back on the sides and in the center back as well as tabs that hook over the hinges to a small degree.

 

I am seriously contemplating the purchase of a v2000z.

If this CPU upgrade is practical (not necessarily meaning easy), it may solve my dilemma. I can get a Sempron-based v2000z now (for its xtra battery yield) and later upgrade to Turion MT.

However, I am hoping that the battery will last at least a solid 1/2 hour more if I get the 3000+ vs the ML34...would this be realistic, even if tweak-maxed?

BTW, I also wonder if the limited cache in the Sempron will affect the amount of memory I can add to the machine.

Your thoughts will be appreciated.

 

congratulations! nice to know it works.

like someone mentioned only version .13 bios is on hp's site. and thats what i have. I hope this works too

 

I do not think there are any major changes in F.21, otherwise it would have been in download pages by now.

 

if this is the case then perhaps i'll give it a try someday
ty

 

I am now also using my v2000z with an MT-40!

Two questions for the other(s) who now have this:
1) Are you able to get it to run at anything less than 2.2 ghz now? I'm finding that even on battery power, with the BIOS (F.22) set to Battery Life (instead of Performance), the Power settings on Laptop/Portable, and a fresh reinstallation of the AMD driver, I still can't get it to do anything less than full speed (2.2 ghz). When I had the ML-37 in there, all this worked fine.

2) Have you tried AMD Dashboard Demo? It worked fine with my ML-37, but it won't run at all now. It just gives an error message saying: "Make sure AMD Tools Driver is installed and that this system has a PSS or PST object." whatever that all means

Craig

 

It is possible that AMD driver does not match for ML and MT. In new installation it might because of AMD driver problem.( It is known issue for several V2000z even with ML series).

Even better, you could use RMClock, undervolt a little too, make more battery life!!

 

I'm considering doing the same MT-40 upgrade to my L2000. Charvey maybe you should try the f.13 bios and see if that makes a difference, hope you wouldn't mind posting how everthings turns out and if it works then I will take the plunge and buy a MT-40...p.s where did you find the f.21 bios for download? Maybe tk421 can pipe in with a few pointers. Oh yah one more thing have you tried updating the MT-40 from the device manager so you can have the latest microsoft/amd driver from the net?.

 

My F.22 BIOS came in my v2000z a week or so ago.
I'm not sure if the device manager processor driver is related to the AMD processor driver. I guess I could check more into that.

Many Thanks to Chinna_m for continuing to mention RMclock (and for the wonderful initial v2000z review, which helped me decide on the purchase). I finally figured out how to make RMclock work, and everything is now wonderful. I have it set on Power on Demand, and it downclocks & upclocks as needed. I have it set for 1.25 V at 11x and 1.0 volts at 4x (with an intermediate 1.15 V at 8x). When I first tried a low power setting at 0.8 V 4x the machine went nuts. Using AMD PowerMonitor it looks like whatever voltage is requested and reported in RMclock (and CPU-Z) gets fulfilled by the processor at 0.1 volts less. I.e., PowerMonitor reports the new high & low as 1.15 and 0.90 volts. So I might try setting the low voltage point at 0.9, since I think the cpu should work at a real 0.80 volts.

Craig

 

Awesome thanks for the info as soon as I got my L2000 i've been searching high and low for people who have upgraded to a mt series turion...Rm clock is a pretty sweet ultility especially for getting an extra half hour battery life...charvy could you recommend a online merchant to buy the mt-40 from?

 

I really appreciate your effort and risk in replacing with MT and updating and providing proof for all of us (which were all guesses until you guys did it).

The specified voltage 0.8v is some kind range to work with, but not actual required voltage at lowest stepping.

ML series typically works fine aroun 0.95v to 0.9v at 4x, so I am guessing you should be able to do it at 0.9v without any problems. As per multipliers, I would suggest some more intermediate steppings( as power consumption in intermediate stepping is far less too).

I would suggest (only 6x is added new stepping, all other are CPU default steppings.)

4x, 6x, 8x,9x,10x,11x

As per the voltages, I would try to give ballpark figures to starts with( based on my ML proc, reduce by 0.5v in all steppings avg).

4x 0.9v, 6x 0.95, 8x 1.025v, 9x 1.10v, 10x 1.175v 11x 1.25v

Anyways, please let us know how your undervolting goes with MT series. It may help few people in future.

 

Wow, glad you guys pulled this off.

 

In Search of My "Perfect Notebook"

Upgrading a Compaq v2000z, the Story & the Numbers


After a month or so researching what I might want as my first
laptop computer, I settled on something that didn't exist: 14
inch widescreen, AMD Turion MT-40 processor (2.2 GHz with a Thermal Design Power "TDP" of 25 watts), DVD burner, and a 7200 rpm hard drive. I wasn't interested in gaming, but I did want to do video editing a lot faster than my desktop system (1.6 ghz Pentium 4).

After completing the upgrades described below, and running the benchmarks, I am overjoyed with my system. It is about twice as fast as my 1.6 GHz Pentium desktop system, and roughly comparable to the desktop system at my job, which is a 3 GHz Pentium.

In my shopping I was tempted by a couple 15 inch systems that I could get with the MT-40, but the 14 inch Compaq V2000z just felt so much more portable and fit into my backpack much easier than a 15 inch system. There was also a 12 inch possibility, which was very cute, but it just seemed a bit too small for comfortable video editing. Reviews had indicated that the only potential gripe about the V2000z was the battery life, so I figured switching to the MT version of the chip should help a lot with that by bringing the power consumption more in line with Intel Pentium-M systems.

So I bought the Compaq V2000z with minimal RAM and HD, since I definitely wanted to upgrade those, and I already knew that was feasible. But I got the fastest processor offered (ML-37, 2.0 GHz, 35 watt TDP), since no one had yet attempted upgrading to an MT-40, or MT-anything, so there was no guarantee that it would work. And I got the 3-year service plan, since it was on sale, and I'd heard from other laptop (Dell) users that it's really a good idea, since it's not uncommon for motherboards to need replacing in laptops that
are moved around a lot. And I don't see anything in the fine
print about the service plan being void if the computer has
been modified (only if you happen to destroy it while trying
to do the modification).

Configurations:

Original:
AMD Turion ML-37 (2.0 GHz, 35 watt), 256 MB RAM, 40 GB 4200 rpm HDD, Lightscribe DVD burner, ATI Radeon Xpress
200M w/productivity ports (to get firewire), 802.11B/G wireless w/speedbooster (no bluetooth), 12 cell battery, 14 inch widescreen Brightview display. Mine came with the F.22
version of the BIOS.

Fully Upgraded:
Turion MT-40 (2.2 GHz, 25 watt) $260 from Newegg;
1 GB PC3200 (single stick DDR400 SO-DIMM) Kingmax RAM, $125 from Newegg;
Hitachi 7K100 100 GB 7200 rpm HDD, $200 from ZipZoomFly.

The first thing to do to prepare for upgrading the V2000z is
to download the Service/Maintenance manual from the HP
website. The trick in finding it is to look for the manual for the V2000 (which is the Intel version of this system).

RAM Upgrade:

I found the RAM upgrade to be very easy. It is unquestionably the biggest bang for the cost and effort involved. Important Note: As long as you are upgrading the RAM, do not bother buying PC2700 (DDR333) chips. The PC3200 (DDR400) is not much, if any, more expensive, it is readily recognized by the system, and as long as you remove any slower memory the system does run at the faster speed of the DDR400 (i.e., 200 MHz).

Also, if anyone out there is trying to run with only 256 MB of
memory due to money limitations, you really really owe it to
yourself to at least put in another 256 MB, which costs almost
nothing, and will allow Windows to run without constant use of
virtual memory on the hard drive. Your startup time will drop
from about 90 seconds to half that.

One other RAM item: I tried tweaking the RAM a bit further
using A64Tweaker to change from 2T to 1T (don't ask me what these are), since one person had reported noticeable improvements from this tweak. When I first did it, I did see a small improvement -- like about 2% faster running the SuperPi Mod 1M test. However, the system then went nuts, so I gave up on that tweak.

HDD Upgrade:

The HDD upgrade is also very easy to do in terms of replacing the actual drive, but it is a bit tedious to install the operating system and all other software. I did this upgrade before installing any software beyond what came on the CDs with the computer. Otherwise the process would have been even more tedious. The HDD benchmarks indicate that it is moving data as fast as it is supposed to -- average is about 40 MB/sec, with an access time of 15.4 ms.

CPU Upgrade:

This was the big gamble, especially since Newegg will not give refunds on a CPU that has been taken out of the package. But I figured the worst case would be that I'd have to go back to the original ML-37 and sell the MT-40 at a loss on eBay. From
reading the service manual, it looked like I ought to be able to do the CPU upgrade myself, but just in case I also found a little local shop with lots of laptop repair experience.

After trying myself for a couple hours to do one of the early steps (removing the "switch cover" behind the keyboard), I gave up, since I didn't see a way to do it without breaking it. So I took it to my friendly local professional ($65 for the CPU swap, which I consider a bargain). While it was in the shop, someone on the NotebookReview.com forum beat me to this upgrade, and they offered a bit more advice on the step that had stopped me. To quote them:
"... getting the ends out is easy, you just flex it up a bit and put a small flat head near the edge (in other words where the catch is so you don't break anything) and gently pry it upwards it pops right out. If you flex up on the middle it will break. You need to slide the screwdriver towards the edge of the notebook and pry gently up at the corners. The piece is hooked in by tabs on the sides that are closer to keyboard. In addition there are tabs farther back on the sides and in the center back as well as tabs that hook over the hinges to a small degree."

When I got my upgraded system back, Windows System and CPU-Z both properly identified the new chip, and it was indeed
running at 2.2 GHz. However, it would ONLY run at 2.2 GHz, even on battery power, no matter what I did (set BIOS to Battery Life, and Power Settings to Laptop/Portable, and reinstall the AMD K8.sys driver). Luckily, another V2000z reviewer (chinna_n) had recommended a free 3rd-party utility called RMClock (RightMark Clock), which allows you to create your own voltage and multiplier map for a true Power-on-Demand setup, possibly even better than the AMD/Windows arrangement.

After installing RMClock and entering a full range of Power-on-Demand settings, my system is really working as it should, with speeds ranging from 800 MHz (4x multiplier and 0.8 volts) to 2200 MHz (11x and 1.25 volts).

The only other "casualty" of the CPU upgrade seems to be that the AMD "Dashboard Demo" no longer works. It worked fine with the ML-37, but with the MT-40 it just gives an error message saying: "Make sure AMD Tools Driver is installed and that this system has a PSS or PST object" (whatever that all means).

A Final "Tweak"

The touchpad driver that came with my system (which was also the latest on HP's website), did not allow the scrolling feature to work when using the Firefox web browser. So I went to the Synaptics web site and downloaded their more recent driver for Windows XP, and the touchpad now works perfectly.


Battery Life and Power Consumption:

I didn't have my original configuration long enough to provide
much information on battery life, but I can tell you how it's
going now in the final configuration (with 12-cell battery). Basically, the battery life consumption ranges from about 12%
per hour at the lowest use (e.g., word processing, web surfing), up to about 30% per hour at near maximum use (constant 2.0-2.2 MHz). Medium use, such as playing a commercial DVD, uses up about 22% per hour. So the 12-cell
battery would last up to 8 hrs at simple tasks, and about 3
hours doing serious crunching. From the reviews I've read of
this machine with the ML (35 watt TDP) processors, my MT 25
watts TDP) does seem to yield substantial improvements in
battery life. And although the left side of the machine
certainly gets warm, I have not experienced it getting
uncomfortably hot at all. I was also pleasantly surprised at
how quiet the fan is when it does come on -- I usually don't
even notice it at all if there's any sort of background noise in the room (such as my desktop system running).


Benchmarks:

I was too eager to get into the upgrades to take the time to do all the possible benchmark tests, but I did run three tests
at each step in the upgrade sequence: PCMark05, PCMark04, and SuperPi Mod. And I also ran SiSoft Sandra and HDTune with just the final configuration.

===================================

PCMark2005 Totals (see below for individual test details)
Original: 1900
Plus 1 GB PC3200 RAM: 1933
Minus orig 256 MB PC2700 RAM: 2015
(which allowed the new PC3200 to run at full DDR400 speed)
Upgrade HDD to 7200 rpm 100 GB: 2164
Upgrade CPU from ML-37 to MT-40: 2285

Total speed increase = 20.3%, with roughly equal benefits from each upgrade: HDD upgrade (7.8%), CPU (6.4%) and faster RAM (6.1%).


PCMark2004 Totals (see below for individual test details)
Original: 3120
Plus 1 GB PC3200 RAM: 3170
Minus orig 256 MB PC2700 RAM: 3323
(which allowed the new PC3200 to run at full DDR400 speed)
Upgrade HDD to 7200 rpm 100 GB: 3345
Upgrade CPU from ML-37 to MT-40: 3593

Total speed icrease = 15.2%, mostly from CPU (8%) and faster RAM (7%). The new faster HD made essentially no change in the PCMark04 results -- the only test that improved was DivX Compression, which went from 49.7 to 53.5 fps. PCMark05 is apparently much more sensitive to HDD changes than PCMark04.

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SuperPi Mod (1M test)

Original: 50.0 seconds
Plus 1 GB PC3200 RAM: 49.5 sec
Minus orig 256 MB PC2700 RAM: 46.5 sec
Upgrade HD to 7200 rpm 100 GB: (no change)
Upgrade CPU from ML-37 to MT-40: 43.0 sec

Total speed increase = 16%, half from faster RAM and half from faster CPU, since this test has nothing to do with the HDD.

===================================

SiSoftware Sandra (ran in final configuration only)

CPU:
Dhrystone ALU: 9801 MIPS
Whetstone iSSE3: 4445 MFLOPS

File System: 40 MB/sec
(This compares to about 32 MB/sec for a good 5400 rpm HDD, or 24 MB/sec for the 4200 rpm 40 GB drive that comes from Compaq. It's not even bad compared to a 15000 rpm SCSI Maxtor drive at 51 MB/sec.)

CPU Multi-Media:
Integer: 20873
Floating-Point: 22490
(These are about 36% faster than a Sempron 2800+, and roughly equivalent to a Pentium M 770 or a Pentium 4 3.2 GHz.)

Memory (& chipset) Bandwidth:
RAM bandwidth Integer: 2511 MB/sec
RAM bandwidth Float: 2508 MB/sec

Cache and Memory:
Combined Index: 4845 MB/sec
(This is just slightly better than an Athlon 64 3200+ with PC3200, and slightly slower than a Pentium M 750 with PC2-4200U.)

===================================

HD Tune 2.52 (ran in final configuration only)

Transfer Rate:
Min: 18.8 MB/sec
Max: 52.0 MB/sec
Avg: 40.5 MB/sec
Access Time: 15.4 ms
Burst Rate: 78.1 MB/sec
CPU Usage: 7.0%

===================================

PCMark Details:

Compaq v2000z, February 2006

Three numbers provided:
1) Original: 256 MB RAM, 40 GB 4200 rpm HDD, Turion ML-37
CPU;
2) Memory Upgraded: 1 GB stick PC3200 (original PC2700 RAM
removed);
3) Final: 1 GB pc3200 DDR400 RAM, 7200 rpm HD, Turion MT-40.

PCMark05

[Totals: 1900; 2015; 2285]

Suite: System Test Suite
Test set: HDD - XP Startup
HDD - XP Startup: 4.464; 4.477; 7.379 MB/s
Test set: Physics and 3D
Physics and 3D: 45.542; 53.478; 54.336 fps
Test set: 2D - Transparent Windows
Transparent Windows: 152.862; 179.766; 197.476 windows/s
Test set: 3D - Pixel Shader
3D - Pixel Shader: 6.724; 7.209; 7.263 fps
Test set: Web Page Rendering
Web Page Rendering: 1.904; 2.013; 2.409 pages/s
Test set: File Decryption
File Decryption: 34.078; 34.244; 37.614 MB/s
Test set: 2D - Graphics Memory - 64 lines
Graphics Memory - 64 lines: 240.166; 285.128; 286.162 fps
Test set: HDD - General Usage
HDD - General Usage: 2.958; 2.957; 4.697 MB/s
Test set: Multithreaded Test 1
Audio Compression: 1118.915; 1121.677; 1227.464 KB/s
Video Encoding: 136.356; 139.72; 153.443 KB/s
Test set: Multithreaded Test 2
Text edit: 60.796; 65.198; 68.421 pages/s
Image Decompression: 11.105; 10.917; 12.670 MPixels/s
Test set: Multithreaded Test 3
File Compression: 2.010; 2.022; 2.197 MB/s
File Encryption: 10.166; 10.166; 11.241 MB/s
HDD - Virus Scan: 13.442; 17.713; 17.257 MB/s
Memory Latency - Random 16 MB: 9.614; 9.347; 10.515 MAccesses/s


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PCMark04

[Totals: 3120; 3323; 3593]

Suite: System Test Suite
Test set: Multithreaded Test 1
File Compression: 2.757; 3.081; 3.232 MB/s
File Encryption: 30.471; 30.468; 33.742 MB/s
Test set: Multithreaded Test 2
File Decompression: 24.012; 24.499; 26.735 MB/s
Image Processing: 12.065; 12.285; 13.386 MPixels/s
Test set: Multithreaded Test 3
Virus Scanning: 1400.412; 1727.158; 1826.178 MB/s
Grammar Check: 3.074; 3.067; 3.288 KB/s
Test set: File Decryption
File Decryption: 60.361; 61.264; 67.489 MB/s
Test Set: Audio Conversion
Audio Conversion: 2513.416; 2626.118; 2901.147 KB/s
Test set: Web Page Rendering
Web Page Rendering: 3.894; 4.814; 5.208 pages/s
Test set: WMV Video Compression
WMV Video Compression: 44.949; 46.120; 50.645 fps
Test set: DivX Video Compression
DivX Video Compression: 45.712; 49.717; 58.753 fps
Test set: Physics Calculation and 3D
Physics Calculation and 3D: 73.707; 85.475; 87.606 fps
Test set: Graphics Memory - 64 lines
Graphics Memory - 64 lines: 506.393; 587.596; 592.188 fps

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I really appreciate you guys providing such a great details.
Only thing I would is try even lower voltages. 1.25V for 11x seems still IMHO for MT series.(My ML-37 does 1.225v at 10x). So you could try reducing even more.

 

lol no need to quote such a huge post

 

I just clicked on quote with the intent of just keeping his name, but forgot to remove the remaining post. Now it is!!?

 

I COULD KISS YOU! I hated not being able to scroll in firefox, and for some reason I just thought it was firefox's fault and not synaptics'. Finally able to scroll in my favorite browser with the touchpad! you rock!

 

Addendum to my long upgrade description:

I now have MobileMeter installed so I can measure temperatures. With light use the cpu ranges from 51C to 58C (when fan kicks in and takes it back to 51C). That is running at 800 MHz and 0.8 volts. If I let it go the full 2.2 GHz, running 100% load for 40 minutes doing 32M of SuperPi, it got up to a max of 67C and fluctuated between 65-67C.

The HDD temperature when idle is about 43C. And by running the HD Tune benchmark a couple times I was only able to get it up to 47C.

Incidentally, since I removed the ML-37 from my system, I would like to find it a new home. If anyone is interested in upgrading from a Sempron or slower Turion, take a look at what could be a very cheap way to get an ML-37 from my ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6856482369

Craig

 

Did I mention that I also bought an MT-37 when I bought the MT-40? ... just in case the MT-40 didn't work, I figured the MT-37 would have a better chance (being the same speed as the original ML-37). Well, since the MT-40 has been working just fine, I'd like to find someone who wants a good deal on an MT-37. If interested, see the ebay listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6861273584

Craig

 

I have a ML-28 1.6GHz 512K cache CPU. I am wondering if a MT-40 would help with games like BF2. I realize the 2 pipeline UMA memory of the graphics chip is very poor. I am curious if a faster CPU with more cache could help out. More read cache hits should leave more RAM bandwidth for the video. I have 2GB of DDR333 and need it because I use VMWare otherwise I would have done the single 1GB DDR400 module.

The BF2 demo is unplayable on my current system.

 

I have a v2000z with an ML-37 coming in about a week or so
the idea of upgrading the processor has peaked my interest
and while I would like good battery life I got a 12 cell battery and I'm not as interested in battery life as in performance
so I have a couple of questions

1.How much difference is there in performance between the ML and MT chips?
2.Would it be possible to do this mod with an ML-42 or ML-44?

Thanks

 

1.How much difference is there in performance between the ML and MT chips?

NOPE, NONE, only difference is in Power consumption because of lower voltage for MT. Nothing else.

2.Would it be possible to do this mod with an ML-42 or ML-44?

You should be able to do it if that chip is available.

 

Add one more to the list of happy v2000z/l2000 owners using the MT-40

 

I am trying to locate a board mentioned in this post and was wondering if anyone can help me.

I am looking for the LED Display Circuit board - DACT2API6C6,

When removing this board i the connection for the ribbon popped off because of bad soldering, this would not be a problem except the ribbon came out at the same time and since it seams that this is a connection that the ribbon was pressed into I can not slide the ribbon back inside the connector so i need to replace the board. can anyone help me to locate a replacement board.

Thank you