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    Use my laptop monitor for a PS3?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by JTF2, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. JTF2

    JTF2 Notebook Consultant

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    So I'm not really sure which subforum this should go under, so sorry if this is the wrong place.

    Anyway, I've been debating for a long time, and am really starting to itch (now that I have a new job) for some new gaming. I'm between getting a new desktop or buying a PS3, but I don't want to spend a ton of money.

    I don't have any monitors at all, so I'm wondering, is it possible to hook a PS3 slim up to a laptop monitor? I have an Asus f8sv, which has a TV out connector, DVI-out connector, VGA connector. I'm also wondering if this will have any negative impact on my laptop/laptop screen (I'm assuming not, but I want to be sure). Also, will the sound transfer to my laptop? It's not a big deal, as I'll have to buy a headset or speakers either way.

    Also, any input regarding my decisions, even games I should check out, are welcome :D

    Thanks.

    EDIT: Okay, so I'm probably just going to get an LCD monitor. Currently looking at this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052. Any reccs are welcome
     
  2. crazycanuk

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    you CAN if you get a USB tv tuner that has composite or s-video INPUTS. then you can use your computer as a TV. it is not the most efficient but it works
     
  3. JTF2

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    Do you think you could give me a link to one that works? I'm looking at this but I have no idea if that's what I need.

    And yes, this does seem less ideal that I would have hoped.....
     
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    Man, I almost feel like I might as well just buy a small LCD tv.
     
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    Yep, pretty much especially of you can find a 15 or 19" unit on a blowout special
     
  7. JTF2

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    Bestbuy has a 15" dynex for 165, or I can get a 19" Toshiba for 199. The sale ends Sunday though, and I'm not even sure if they have stock.

    I'm assuming that if I buy an LCD Monitor instead of a TV, I'll also have to buy some extra cables or do some weird stuff to hook up a PS3 to the monitor?
     
  8. cloudbyday

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    no, if it has hdmi so you will be able to connect ps3 through hdmi. And if even the monitor doesn't have hdmi connector, you can get a hdmi to dvi cable for cheep.
     
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    Better than USB would be a TV tuner that has either PCMIA or the ExpressCard Connector - better speeds.

    Else a TV tuner is to the best of my knowledge the only way to feed a TVsignal to a laptop.
     
  11. JTF2

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    Thanks for all the help guys. Looks like I'll be buying either an LCD TV or LCD monitor... I'm thinking of going with a monitor, because I plan on getting a decent headset anyway, and will probably buy a new desktop eventually also.
     
  12. yuio

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    I've tried USB tuners with an Xbox the video lags so much it's really hard to play, it is also often really crappy resolution.

    I bought a 22inch LCD monitor for 189$ I'd look into that
     
  13. JTF2

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    Ok, one more question.

    After some reading, I realized you can't use a normal headset with a mic to listen to sound and also other players talking (like you can on a PC).
    So my question is, is it possible for me to use anything OTHER than headphones with a single 3.5mm connection?

    For example, I like the idea of using wireless headphones like these:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...QN18U/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_3?ie=UTF8&index=3

    But I can't really tell what type of jack it uses,

    Another interesting one is this:
    http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efp21/howdoesitwork.aspx
    Which basically claims to combine game sound, chatter, and a microphone into one, but I don't think I'll be able to use it either?

    I'm currently looking at 2 panels, an Asus
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079
    and a Hanns G,
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254039

    The Hanns appears to have both a 3.5mm jack for headphones (green) and a microphone (pink) while the Asus has only a green jack (you can this in the pictures). So I'm wondering what would happen if I used a PS3 with the Hanss, and plugged my PC headset with a headphone and microphone jack into the monitor, would I be able to hear game sounds and chatter, and also be able to chat?
     
  14. Judicator

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    The panels shouldn't have to matter (soundwise). The sound is coming from your PS3, and not the panel, unless you want to pass the sound through the monitor first (which generally makes no sense, as monitors, as opposed to TVs, generally lack speakers). In this case, the HDMI connector from your PS3 will only pass the video, while sound will be passed through whatever headset you hook up to your PS3.

    You should be able to use either of the headphones you linked, I would think.
     
  15. JTF2

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    I thought the whole point of HDMI was that it carried video and audio in the same cable.... Also, there is no sound that "comes" from the PS3, it does not have speakers or a headphone jack. You can use a USB head set or even USB headphones, but you will only get voice chatter through USB. I want to use head phones so I can game without disturbing people... there is no easy way to properly use a headset on a PS3 (the way you would on PC, hearing both sounds and chatter and being able to talk).

    It seems I should be able to hook up 3.5mm headphones to the monitor. I'm still not sure about the microphone jack though. Alternatively, for sound, I should also be able to use the PS3s RCA cables
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    With an RCA female to 3.5mm stereo female adapter like this
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    Then plug my headphones into there.

    Also, here's the sweet monitor I'm eyeing now, 24", $209 and free shipping.
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

    Can anyone tell if I am missing anything, or if there are any flaws in my idea?
     
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    That's part of the point of HDMI, yes. My point was that unless the monitor you're looking at comes with speakers (or, I suppose, a headphone port to pass through the audio component), it'll simply ignore the audio portion of the HDMI input anyway (With LCD monitors, more and more of them come with speakers, these days, I admit, but I grew up in the days of CRT non-speaker monitors). When I said the "sound" comes from your PS3, I meant that the signal for the sound comes from the PS3, and not the monitor. If you look at the first image for the Turtle Beach Ear Force P21 you linked, you'll notice that (using the HDMI to RCA cables) the headphones were connected to the sound output which then passed through to the TV, while the video connector was connected straight to the TV. I admit the picture is a bit confusing, as if they use an HDMI cable, you'll have to connect the headphones to any audio out of the TV/monitor, as opposed to the RCA cable.

    As for your current idea, the only possible flaw I see is that judging from the images of that particular monitor, it has no component input, which means you'll have to use the HDMI to HDMI cable, and then hook your headphones into what is hopefully a 3.5mm stereo out port on that monitor (they're not exactly labeled, so it's difficult to tell).
     
  17. JTF2

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    Ah okay, I see now.

    Yes, the turtle beach is confusing, but after I understood how the PS3 works, it makes sense. The only way to get a microphone signal into the PS3 is through USB, but if you plug a USB headset into the PS3, the only audio signal you can receive is voice chatter (no in-game sounds). Therefore, that headset has to be connected both to the USB port and the RCA audio plugs (then you plug in the video, either through HDMI or RCA). This headset is one of only 2 or 3 headsets that do this, allowing you to use a headset with a PS3 like any normal PC user would.

    For my current idea, that is exactly what I plan on doing. I will use HDMI to HDMI and plug headphones into the monitor (if you look at the pictures, it does appear to have a green headphone jack), or, still using HDMI to HDMI, but if I buy a monitor without a headphone jack, I should be able to take only the audio from the RCA cables, use the adapter, then plug the headphones into the adapter.

    I hope we're on the same page now :\. Thanks for the comments.
     
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    Yes, I think we're pretty much on the same page now. My only worry about your second option (using HDMI to HDMI on a monitor without a headphone jack) is that unless the PS3 has 2 HDMI ports in the back that it can transmit through simultaneously, you'll have to buy some sort of extra adaptor that lets video signals through while breaking out the audio, because while your PS3 is transmitting through the HDMI to HDMI cable, you won't have a separate place to plug in the HDMI to RCA component (unless the monitor has an HDMI out, possibly).
     
  19. cloudbyday

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    It has an audio out on the back, or bottom, of it. So why not plug your headphones in it.
     
  20. JTF2

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    It is my understanding that through the PS3's settings, you can select separate output methods for audio and video, so if I need to, I can set video output through HDMI, and audio output through the PS3's AV Multi cable (the RCAs). (I just checked this and you definitely can)

    If you're talking about the monitor, then yes, that's what I intend to do. I just want a backup plan, incase I want to buy a different monitor that does not have a headphone jack.
     
  21. sean473

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    personally , i prefer to get a monitor with HDMI as u need 1 cable...less cables.. less mess..
     
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    The image quality of a TV Tunner is not good, so better use a TV that supports HDMI...
     
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    Yes, that would qualify under my "2 ports in the back" setting. :)
     
  24. JTF2

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    Thanks for the help guys. Now I just need to find a decent monitor.