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    Video editing on onboard video? (Intel 950)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by oldhat, Jan 24, 2007.

  1. oldhat

    oldhat Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not sure why I can't find answers by searching. I'm sure this has been asked plenty of times before!

    I want to be able to do video editing on my notebook, and I'm wondering how well the Intel 950 chipset works for that.

    I have tried using an Geforce 7400 (Dell M1210) and it works great...sure, also with the 7200 chip and 2GB of ram. I'm looking at a Lenovo V100, but it only has onboard video.

    Anybody here do video editing with this chipset? Let me know. Thanks!
     
  2. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Most (if not all) video editing it done via the processor (CPU). The GPU is only used for 3D rendering (like 3ds max or maya), but videos are 2D so you're fine.

    Just get a good processor and you'll be fine.
     
  3. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I would recommend a dedicated video card simply because it can improve playback quality and help take off some stress of the CPU while encoding or decoding. As well as help if you use a program with 3d transitions.

    A 7400 go or x1300 should be more than enough, but I do recommend dedicated video.

    Plus a dedicated GPU gives your system and overall boost.
     
  4. rockharder

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    The editing job consists two part:
    Frame by frame searching.
    Batch encoding.

    Per frame searching mainly involve your human interface, so it is pretty slow not because the machine but human response.

    Batch encoding mainly depends on CPU, memory, cache, and HDD speed. GPU may help iff a propitiatory encoding software can really use GPU float point processor. Unless Nvidia release such encoder, there is generally no encoder involve much GPU in encoding process. Preview will only help you to know you are in encoding process, and that's all.
    I use poor XGI(16MB) GPU and dual processor to encode HD video, and it pretty fast.
     
  5. Nicolas41390

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    Video editing is more intencive on the CPU then the GPU, as everyone said earlier. I don't notice a big difference in times between my notebook and my similarly speced desktop. I notice a differnece when I run on my work machine, but that is a monster: AMD FX 5200+ processor, 4gb pc3200 RAM, an ATI x1950xtx 512mb, 750gb, 500gb, 250gb, and a 80gb HDD. I have used this to render 1080i video before, and it is fast. You can play 1080i video on the intel chipset, but it drops frames all over.
     
  6. RefinedPower

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    LOL, Good grief... your work computer? what do you do... game? Any way as has been previously said its more important to have plenty of ram, a good HD and a good CPU. I have personally used an old Intel Xtreme integraited GPU and it worked fine. Obviously if you plan on doing some serious video editing you will need something a lot more powerful. But for home movies a GMA 950 with 2GB of ram and a good CPU (1.83GHz C2D or better) you will be fine.
     
  7. RogueMonk

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    Simple answer - yes.

    The GMA 950 will have no problem with encoding (as long as the rest of your hardware is up to the task).
     
  8. oldhat

    oldhat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the responses. I guess then my next question is if the extra $300 for the upgrade to the T7200 chip is worth it. I'm going to guess not, invest in 2GB ram instead.

    I plan to use an external hard drive for the video files, USB 2.0, 7200 rpm. Seems to be fast enough, as I'm only editing SD. I hope that Adobe Premiere Pro 2 has no issues specifically, as I read that Final Cut Pro will not even install on the basic Macbook (which has same Intel 950 chipset).

    Also looking into an Expresscard for SATA...sounds like overkill. ( here)
     
  9. Nicolas41390

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    From what??? The more RAM, the faster CPU, and the faster HDD the better. I would say no, spend it on a firewire drive/ case, it will transfer faster. One thing you can do the make it faster, when rendering, transfer from one drive to the other. As for the SATA card, it is overkill unless you are going to run a 10,000rpm drive on it.
     
  10. Nicolas41390

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    I play games, use solidworks, and edit 23 megapixel scans on it. If you ever wanted to know, have FF2, solidworks w/2 docs open, and photoshop w 2 images open and you can bring it down to it's knees. Windows will complain about the lack of physical memory.
     
  11. usapatriot

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    I would still recommend a lower end dedicated gpu, just so you dont completely bottleneck your system.
     
  12. oldhat

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    I should have been more specific: I'm looking at the Lenovo 3000 V100 in particular. It has the 950 onboard video and 5400rpm hd standard. I'm choosing between the T5500 vs T7200, and leaning to the much cheaper for this configuration T5500. I will upgrade to 2GB ram, for VMware and photoshop as well as video editing.

    I don't play games, though Spore has me thinking about coming out of retirement. Nah, not even then...

    I am replacing the Dell XPS M1210, btw, for reasons this thread explains.

    I'm not feeling the ASUS 12" for some reason... mostly because I want an (extended) warranty and return policy I can trust.

    Thanks everyone!
     
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    You are comparing grape to apple, man. T5500 is 1.6G with 2M cache, and T7200 is 2.0G with 4M cache and no Virtualization in T5500. The price has its reason. You probably go with T7200 although VMWare may not really use VT at all.
     
  14. usapatriot

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    But a dedicated GPU will help with video transitions and effects and if you even visit any 3D sites or use vizualizations.